
Slaying Dragons
06/25/21 • 56 min
Good stories matter — we all know this. But how do these good stories shape us, form our imaginations, make us better parents, and remind us what really matters? Why do the best stories sacramentally peel back the surface to reveal what’s really there? Seth and Tsh talk to their friend, novelist Shawn Smucker, about what it means to immerse your life in good stories — and why it’s not optional.
To borrow a quip from G.K. Chesterton about children and fairy tales (because it’s just as true for adults): good stories don’t tell us dragons exist. We already know this. Good stories tell us dragons can be killed.
- Seth: Newsletter | Website
- Tsh: Newsletter | Website
- Shawn Smucker: Books | Podcast | Twitter | Instagram | Website
- Pick up a round of drinks & help keep the show going
- Come to Italy with us!
- Journal of a Novel, by John Steinbeck
- Working Days, by John Steinbeck
- Evilene Killerman on Instagram
- Anything is Possible, by Elizabeth Strout
- The Surrender Experiment, by Michael A. Singer
- Radical Face's albums The Family Tree: The Roots, The Branches, and The Leaves
- Radical Face guidebook
This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thecommon.place/subscribe
Good stories matter — we all know this. But how do these good stories shape us, form our imaginations, make us better parents, and remind us what really matters? Why do the best stories sacramentally peel back the surface to reveal what’s really there? Seth and Tsh talk to their friend, novelist Shawn Smucker, about what it means to immerse your life in good stories — and why it’s not optional.
To borrow a quip from G.K. Chesterton about children and fairy tales (because it’s just as true for adults): good stories don’t tell us dragons exist. We already know this. Good stories tell us dragons can be killed.
- Seth: Newsletter | Website
- Tsh: Newsletter | Website
- Shawn Smucker: Books | Podcast | Twitter | Instagram | Website
- Pick up a round of drinks & help keep the show going
- Come to Italy with us!
- Journal of a Novel, by John Steinbeck
- Working Days, by John Steinbeck
- Evilene Killerman on Instagram
- Anything is Possible, by Elizabeth Strout
- The Surrender Experiment, by Michael A. Singer
- Radical Face's albums The Family Tree: The Roots, The Branches, and The Leaves
- Radical Face guidebook
This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thecommon.place/subscribe
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Alive People, Alive Art
Two episodes ago, Seth and Tsh talked about artists who are no longer alive but still live on through the great art they left us. As a follow-up, in this episode they chat about the artists who are very much alive and are making the world a bit better through their art.
Seth's and Tsh's criteria? Artists who aren’t as commonly well-known, as well as people who aren’t out to make a name for themselves as an InfluencerTM or ThoughtLeaderTM. They’re also some who aren’t even literal artists, per se, but they use their preferred medium like an artist would — curated, thoughtful, and with the receiver in mind.
- Seth: Newsletter | Website
- Tsh: Newsletter | Website
- Pick up a round of drinks & help keep the show going
- Come to Italy with us!
- Lesley Villareal on Instagram
- Repertoire, by James Acaster on Netflix
- James Acaster On the Absurdity of the British Empire, on YouTube
- Wonderful Arkansas on Instagram
- Rick Steves - Podcast + YouTube
- City on Fire, Garth Risk Hallberg
- John Blase: Website + Twitte
- Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
- Heather King on Instagram
- Boze Herrington on Twitter
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Next Episode

Ordinary Beauty #1
Recognizing beauty is a habit, and it’s also not optional if we want to live a sacramental life. In this episode, Seth and Tsh share specific examples of beauty they’re currently witnessing in their lives, and you’re invited to notice your own as well.
- Seth: Newsletter | Website
- Tsh: Newsletter | Website
- Pick up a round of drinks & help keep the show going
- Come to Italy with us!
- “We’ve Always Asked the Wrong Question,” on The Commonplace
- Andrew Wyeth: Website | MoMA Collection
- Jess Franks on Instagram
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