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It's Not About The Money

It's Not About The Money

Catherine Morgan

It’s not about the money is for women in business who know they want to make more money whilst holding onto more money and growing an abundance of wealth. You're tired of overgiving, undercharging and being stuck in a scarcity money mindset. You know you have it in you, you just need financial confidence and an abundant mindset. You're excited and ready to learn what it takes to make more money, invest and step into wealth. Hosted by Catherine Morgan, Author, Award-winning Financial Wellbeing Speaker, Financial Coach and Trauma-informed coach. You'll learn the steps to create more wealth, grow your business, and have a better relationship with money. This is the show for you to feel good with money and to explore the meaning beyond wealth. This podcast is the one to listen to if you're a female entrepreneur. ‘Formerly the In Her Financial Shoes Podcast.’
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It's Not About The Money - How to Stop Self-Sabotaging to Make More Money
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01/22/24 • 28 min

In this episode of It’s Not About The Money podcast (formerly the In Her Financial Shoes podcast) I cover how to stop self sabotaging in order to make more money.

The reason that we self-sabotage is that it feels safer for us to procrastinate, say no, and not get visible. All of these behaviours I talk about come from a place of safety. And so the aim of self-sabotaging behaviours is not to remove them, the aim is just to recognise them.

In this episode, I cover:

  • What are the biggest self-sabotaging behaviours
  • How to recognise when you’re self-sabotaging
  • How to clear the negative emotions that come up
  • What you can do differently
  • How to create consistency and stability in your business

Resources:

Get my FREE book 'It's Not About The Money'

Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz

Join Catherine’s FREE Facebook Group 'The Energy of Money Experience'

Catherine’s YouTube Channel

Connect with Catherine on Instagram

Connect with Catherine on Facebook

Join the Wealthy Woman School

Join Catherine at the Wealthy Woman Live Event

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I speak with Symmie Swill, the head of business banking at Starling bank, about how to manage your business finances. Symmie shares the journey of Starling bank, the kind of accounts and businesses that they support, and talks us through some of the features that they have available that can support you in your business finance journey.

In this episode:

  • What is a challenger bank?
  • What kind of businesses can open a Starling account?
  • What features do Starling Bank provide for businesses?
  • Can a Starling business account save you money in your business?
  • Implementing Profit First with a Starling business account
  • How does the application process work?
  • What if you have an existing business account elsewhere?
  • Tips to manage finances in your business
  • How to open a Starling Business Account
Resources:

Open a Starling Bank business account

Open a Starling Bank personal account

Compare Starling VS Monzo

The 15 Minute Exercise to Change the Way You Manage Money in Your Business

How to Use the Profit First Method in Your Small Business

Join The Money Circle

Join Catherine’s Facebook Page and FREE Facebook Group

My Online Courses – Investing for beginners from £1

Catherine’s YouTube Channel

Connect with Catherine on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook

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It's Not About The Money - What Money Blocks Are Keeping You Stuck
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06/06/22 • 39 min

On this week’s episode of the In Her Financial Shoes podcast, I am joined by Financial Educator, Martha Lawton. Martha, who was also previously a Financial Advisor, has been helping people understand and use money better for over 15 years.

We will be talking about why willpower can both support and sabotage you when creating more wealth and financial freedom in your life. Martha shares with us her experience with creating awareness of her money blocks and conflicting beliefs, sharing how she went about healing her own relationship with money.

In this episode:

  • Why bringing awareness to the emotional attachment we have to money can create powerful transformations
  • How money blocks and conflicting beliefs can leave you feeling paralysed
  • The next steps to take after identifying areas that you need to be aware of with your money blocks
  • How automation can help your will power
  • Why removing temptation can remove the need for willpower
Resources:

Get my FREE book ‘It’s Not About The Money’

Register for my FREE Financial Coaching Masterclass

Connect with Catherine on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook

Join Catherine’s Facebook Page and FREE Facebook Group

My Online Courses – Investing for beginners from £1

Catherine’s YouTube Channel

Connect with Martha via her Podcast

Join the Wealthy Woman School

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It's Not About The Money - How to invest during uncertain times

How to invest during uncertain times

It's Not About The Money

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04/21/25 • 31 min

Episode Overview

In this episode, I tackle the timely topic of investing during market volatility, particularly relevant as stock markets respond to President Trump's recent tariff announcements. For many investors, these uncertain times can trigger anxiety and fear, but I explain why volatility is actually normal, cyclical, and can present excellent investment opportunities for those with the right knowledge.

Key Highlights Understanding Market Sentiment
  • Warren Buffett's famous advice: "Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful"
  • The Fear and Greed Index as a valuable tool for measuring collective investor emotions
  • How buying during periods of extreme fear has consistently produced strong returns over time
  • The counterintuitive nature of successful investing - why it feels uncomfortable to go against the crowd
The Psychology of Market Cycles
  • Market sentiment follows predictable emotional patterns:
    • Disbelief → Hope → Belief → Thrill/Euphoria
    • Complacency → Anxiety/Denial → Panic → Depression
    • Then back to Disbelief as the cycle restarts
  • Understanding where you personally get caught in this emotional cycle
  • Common behavioural biases that affect investment decisions:
    • Loss aversion (feeling losses twice as strongly as gains)
    • FOMO (fear of missing out)
    • The endowment effect (overvaluing what we already own)
Recognising Your Own Emotions and Behaviours
  • Self-awareness as the most underrated investment skill
  • Research shows individual investors underperform markets by 2-4% annually due to emotional decisions
  • The value of keeping an investment journal to document feelings during market cycles
  • Understanding your risk tolerance and personal biases
Understanding Market Cycles
  • The four classic phases of economic cycles: Expansion, Peak, Contraction, Recovery
  • Different market sectors that typically outperform in each phase:
    • Expansion: Technology, consumer-based stocks
    • Peak: Financial sectors, industrial stocks
    • Contraction: Healthcare, consumer staples, utilities
    • Recovery: Materials, energy sectors
  • How to adjust portfolio weightings based on cycle phases
The Power of Correlation in Building Resilience
  • Correlation measures how different assets move in relation to each other
  • Understanding correlation coefficients: from -1 (opposite movement) to +1 (same direction)
  • Why true diversification requires assets with low correlation to each other
  • The 2022 example of both bonds and equities declining simultaneously
  • Building a portfolio that can weather different market conditions
Final Thought

Successful investing is about time in the market, not timing the market. Research shows that missing just the 10 best days in the stock market can cut returns in half over decades. While market volatility might make many investors fearful, those prepared with the right strategies can use uncertain times as opportunities for growth.

Chapters

00:00 Investing in Uncertain Times

04:49 Understanding Market Sentiment

09:08 The Psychology of Market Cycles

16:20 Recognizing Personal Emotions in Investing

18:11 Understanding Market Cycles

21:33 The Importance of Correlation in Investments

25:52 Key Strategies for Successful Investing

Resources:

Get my FREE book 'It's Not About The Money'

Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz

Sign up to my FREE Newsletter

Come to our Wealth Awakening Retreat

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It's Not About The Money - 4 Keys to Shift From a Surviving to Thriving Mindset
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02/06/23 • 36 min

In this episode of the It’s Not About The Money podcast (formerly the In Her Financial Shoes podcast), I am joined by Jay-anne Dingwall, Coach and Author of The Future You.

It is so easy to look at life based on what is in your bank account. With a low balance, we can often feel like we are not good enough or feel undervalued. Being stuck in the negative cycle makes it hard to succeed and instead creates a pattern of behaviours that do not serve.

We have previously explored the importance of mindset on the podcast and Jay-anne is going to share 4 key changes that will take your mindset from simply surviving to thriving.

In this episode:

  • What happens when you spend too much time in the masculine energy
  • Why putting yourself first will encourage you to feel deserving
  • How to identify your patterns of flow
  • Why you are the product of your environment
  • Exploring curiosity to move from a place of survival
Resources:

Get my FREE book ‘It’s Not About The Money’

Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz

Join Catherine’s FREE Facebook Group ‘The Wealthy Women Community’

Catherine’s YouTube Channel

Connect with Catherine on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook

Jay-anne Dungwall’s The Future You Planner

Recommended Books Healing Through Words & The Artists Way

Find out about our Wealthy Woman School®

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In this episode, I delve into how coaches, therapists and professionals can decode their clients' money language to uncover deeper beliefs and patterns around finances. By becoming attuned to specific words and phrases, practitioners can help clients identify unconscious money stories that may be limiting their financial wellbeing.

Key Highlights The Power of Money Language
  • The words we use around money often reveal our deepest beliefs and fears
  • Most money language is unconscious - clients don't realise what they're revealing
  • Listening carefully can unlock breakthroughs much faster than traditional approaches
  • Money language appears in conversations about pricing, investing, saving, spending and receiving
Becoming a Skilled Listener
  • The importance of genuine curiosity when exploring money language
  • The difference between hearing and truly listening to clients
  • Creating space for clients to express themselves fully
  • Noticing emotional markers - when clients speed up, slow down or change their tone
  • Reflecting back exact language rather than paraphrasing or interpreting
Money Story Types and Their Language Patterns

The Impulsive

  • Key phrases: "I couldn't resist," "I'll figure it out later," "You only live once," "It was calling my name"
  • Makes emotional, in-the-moment money decisions
  • Challenge isn't budgeting skills but creating systems that work with their spontaneous nature
  • Traditional budgeting often feels restrictive and triggers resistance

The Architect

  • Key phrases: "I need to plan for this carefully," "What's the return on investment?" "I'm falling behind on my financial goals," "I'm not comfortable taking that risk"
  • Prefers solid plans and struggles with taking financial risks
  • Benefits from permission to be occasionally spontaneous with money
  • May need an "impulsive money pot" to build capacity for flexibility

The Enabler

  • Key phrases: "I should help them out," "I can't spend that on myself," "I need to do more"
  • Prioritises others' financial needs before their own
  • Needs support with creating healthy boundaries
  • Benefits from recognising their own financial worthiness

The Pacifist

  • Key phrases: "I don't think about money," "Money will work itself out," "Money isn't important to me," "I trust the universe will provide"
  • Avoids financial decisions due to fear of responsibility
  • May have past experiences of poor financial decisions or being rescued financially
  • Needs gentle accountability and small steps to build confidence

The Innovator

  • Key phrases: "I see a big opportunity here," "I can always make more money," "The potential upside is huge"
  • Often seen in entrepreneurs who focus on possibilities and growth
  • May neglect stability and foundations in pursuit of opportunity
  • Benefits from strong financial planning alongside their risk-taking
Other Language Patterns to Notice

Scarcity Language

  • Phrases like "That's never enough," "I can't afford it," "I always run out of money"
  • Indicates patterns of lack and limitation in money thinking

Abundance Language

  • Phrases like "There's always more where that came from," "Money comes easily to me"
  • May indicate a healthy relationship with money OR potential neglect of financial stability

Inherited Money Beliefs

  • Listen for phrases starting with "My parents always said..." or "In my family, we never..."
  • These reveal generational patterns that may not actually belong to the client
Practical Applications
  • Reflect language back: "Tell me more about how money burns a hole in your pocket"
  • Go deeper with questions: "When did you first learn that money was scarce?"
  • Help clients create new language patterns that better serve their financial goals
  • Remember that changing money language can lead to changing money behaviours
Final Thought

By becoming fluent in the language of money psychology, coaches can create deeper, faster transformations with clients rather than simply handing them off to financial experts.

Chapters

00:00 Decoding Money Language

02:52 Understanding Money Stories

06:08 The Role of Active Listening

08:56 Exploring Money Story Types

12:08 Identifying Language Patterns

14:53 Inherited Money Beliefs

18:14 Transforming Money Narratives

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It's Not About The Money - How Carol Created A Financial Plan to Retire in 10 Years
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05/31/21 • 29 min

This week I am chatting with Carol, one of my fabulous Kite Masterminders. Carol shares with us how she created a financial plan to retire in 10 years.

In this episode:

  • The importance of collective support and collaboration
  • How Carol went from worrying about closing her new business to growing her income, profit, and wealth
  • Why the emotional steps were just as important as the practical ones
  • How Carol created a financial plan to retire in 10 years which also supports her strong ethical and sustainable values
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It's Not About The Money - How to bring feminine energy to your finances
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04/01/24 • 19 min

In this conversation, I discuss the impact of masculine energy on our financial lives and how to bring more feminine energy into our approach to money. I explore the language and behaviour associated with money, highlighting the underlying feelings of safety, hard work, and control. I emphasize the importance of balancing masculine and feminine energy and releasing the need to control. I encourage allowing and receiving, as well as expressing and feeling emotions related to money. I also discuss the dance between giving and receiving and the healing of our relationship with money.

Takeaways

  • Language and behaviour around money often reflect underlying feelings of safety, hard work, and control.
  • Balancing masculine and feminine energy is important for a healthy approach to money.
  • Releasing the need to control and practising allowing and receiving can lead to a more abundant financial life.
  • Acknowledging and healing emotions related to money is crucial for a healthy relationship with money.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

00:59 Language and Behavior

03:57 Perceptions of Safety

04:27 The Masculine Way of Managing Money

05:23 Feminine and Masculine Energy

06:18 Balancing Masculine and Feminine Energy

07:12 Releasing the Need to Control

08:08 Bringing in Feminine Behaviors

09:04 Allowing and Receiving

10:55 The Dance Between Giving and Receiving

12:25 Healing the Relationship with Money

13:56 Expressing and Feeling Emotions

16:21 Understanding Contrasting Energies

Resources:

Get my FREE book ‘It’s Not About The Money’

Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz

Join Catherine’s FREE Facebook Group ‘Wealthy Woman Community’

Catherine’s YouTube Channel

Connect with Catherine on Instagram

Connect with Catherine on Facebook

Leave your thoughts on our podcast episodes here

Details for The Enrichment MethodTM can be found here Click here for information on the Wealth Awakening Retreat

Podcast episode: How to stand in your feminine power

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It's Not About The Money - 3 Signs You Are On Your Way To Your Next Financial Breakthrough
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02/19/24 • 16 min

In this episode of It’s Not About The Money (formerly In Her Financial Shoes), I discuss the three signs that indicate you are on your way to your next financial breakthrough.

The first sign is detaching from the need for money and shifting from a mindset of lack to gratitude and abundance. The second sign is experiencing chaos and breakdowns, which often occurs before a breakthrough. The third sign is an identity shift, where you let go of old beliefs and behaviours that no longer serve you.

I emphasise the importance of upgrading your identity and investing in yourself to attract wealth and abundance.

I would love to hear your thoughts on any of our recent podcast episodes. Click the link below to leave a short 90-second recording. (We might use these on some of our future podcast episodes so you might hear yourself on our show).

Key Takeaways:

  • Detach from the need for money and shift to a mindset of gratitude and abundance.
  • Embrace chaos and breakdowns as signs of progress and opportunities for growth.
  • Upgrade your identity and let go of beliefs and behaviours that no longer serve you.
  • Invest in yourself and seek support to accelerate your financial breakthrough.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

01:00 Sign 1: Detaching from the Need for Money

05:17 Sign 2: Chaos and Breakdowns

08:44 Sign 3: Identity Shift

12:19 Reflection and Invitation

Resources:

Get my FREE book 'It's Not About The Money'

Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz

Join Catherine’s FREE Facebook Group 'The Energy of Money Experience'

Catherine’s YouTube Channel

Connect with Catherine on Instagram

Connect with Catherine on Facebook

Leave your thoughts on our podcast episodes here

Find out more about the Energy of Selling Programme here

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It's Not About The Money - How to plan your next quarter for more financial success
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04/14/25 • 29 min

Episode Overview

In this episode, I explore the art of quarterly financial planning as we approach the start of a new quarter in 2025. Whether you've never created a financial plan before, have ambitious money goals gathering dust, or have had to pivot due to unexpected circumstances, this episode offers practical guidance on creating a financial roadmap that actually works.

Key Highlights Why Most Financial Plans Fail
  • Living by default rather than design - executing other people's priorities
  • Spending too much time responding to others' needs versus pursuing personal financial goals
  • Getting caught in the "urgency trap" and constantly firefighting
  • True financial wealth is created when focusing on important but non-urgent tasks
The Eisenhower Time Matrix for Financial Planning
  • Four quadrants based on urgency and importance
  • Most people spend their days trapped in urgent quadrants (important and unimportant)
  • Financial growth happens in the "important but not urgent" quadrant, including:
    • Regular review of spending patterns
    • Learning about investing
    • Building strategic relationships
    • Developing new income streams or offers
  • The value of regular money dates: 20 minutes a week on one financial area
Making Financial Goals Motivating
  • Don't just set empty money targets (e.g., "make £10,000")
  • Connect financial goals to deeper meaning and purpose
  • Ask: "What will this allow me to experience? How will my life change?"
  • Identify the feeling you're seeking: security, freedom, peace, expansion
  • Research shows we're more motivated by purpose than numbers
The Danger of Over-Planning
  • Setting too many financial goals leads to overwhelm and failure
  • The fear of spaciousness: filling calendars because emptiness feels unsafe
  • Follow the "one-three-five" rule:
    • One major financial goal
    • Three supporting goals
    • Five routine habits to maintain progress
  • Quality over quantity applies to financial goals
  • Over-planning often stems from scarcity thinking
Planning According to Seasons
  • Different quarters require different approaches to financial planning
  • Aligning financial activities with natural energy cycles:
    • Spring: Planting new seeds, starting projects, learning money skills
    • Summer: Execution and expansion (with family time consideration)
    • Autumn: Harvesting, reviewing, optimising systems and expenses
    • Winter: Resting, reflecting, preparing for next year's growth
  • Consider personal cycles: menstrual cycles, numerology cycles, energy patterns
  • The importance of recognising which season you're in with your financial journey
Final Thought

Financial success comes from intentional planning aligned with values and natural energy cycles. Start with the next 90 days rather than trying to plan the entire year at once and allow flexibility for changes and adjustments along the way.

Chapters

00:00 Embracing New Beginnings: Financial Planning for the Quarter Ahead

02:45 Identifying Personal Financial Goals: Beyond the Numbers

06:03 The Eisenhower Matrix: Prioritizing Financial Tasks

08:55 Transforming Planning into a Joyful Experience

12:14 Avoiding Over-Planning: The Power of Focus

15:02 Understanding Seasonal Financial Planning

17:54 Creating a Flexible Financial Framework

20:46 Conclusion: Intentional Planning for Financial Success

Resources:

Get my FREE book 'It's Not About The Money'

Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz

Sign up to my FREE Newsletter

Come to our Wealth Awakening Retreat

Become a Certified Financial Coach

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It's Not About The Money currently has 333 episodes available.

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The podcast is about Budgeting, Debt, Wealth, Divorce, Investing, Money, Podcasts, Entrepreneurs, Business and Habits.

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The episode title 'How to Manage Your Business Finances: The Best Business Bank Account Ever?' is the most popular.

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The average episode length on It's Not About The Money is 31 minutes.

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