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How To Love Lit Podcast

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A look at all of the literature you read in high school and college and wished you had paid more attention to.

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Animal Farm - Episode #1 - Meet George Orwell and the array of world forces that produced this classic work!

Hi, I’m Christy Shriver.

And I’m Garry Shriver, and this is the How to Love Lit Podcast. Today we start another political tale- this time instead of a play written two-thousand years, ago, we will discuss a novel, well officially it’s a novel, but its author called it a fairy-tale, albeit without the prince charming, beautiful princess and the happily ever after ending. I’m not sure how it’s a fairy tale at all, actually.

HA! Yes, Orwell was very careful with his words and that bit of satirical language sets the tone for what’s to come in this strangely inspirational scary yet playful warning about the dangers of power and totalitarianism. And speaking about Orwell calling it a fairy tale- the American publisher omitted that title in the American edition a year after it was written and after that so did everyone else- I’m really not sure why. ,It’s an obvious fable that works on several levels. First, it’s a charming story about talking animals- and it works so well on that level and written so simply that there are libraries who mistakenly put it in the juvenile section of the library. And in some sense it is simple and that makes it a relief to read. I saw in a survey done by the Independent newspaper of Great Britain that it is THE most popular book adults remember from their school days- even beats out The Great Gatsby, Charlottes’s Webb and lord of the flies- and if I were to guess, and I will, I have a feeling, that’s because most of the books we make kids read have complicated vocabulary, old fashioned syntax and are just exhausting. Animal Farm is none of that. It has a simplicity of form that makes it simple to navigate- but if you read it ONLY in that way- you are making a grave mistake. It’s not the same as the jungle book or Beatrix Potter. It’s a biting satire about Soviet Totalitarianism as well as an important allegory on basic human nature- what people are really like- and exposing complicated people as simply as he did is where the genius rests- We should never mistake simplicity of form with simplicity of ideas- and an oversimplification of this story makes you the gullible fools he’s writing about and warning you not to be.

Another point mentioning is that this book has been controversial from before it was published. Orwell finished the manuscript to Animal Farm in 1943 but it wasn’t published until August 1945 by a company called Secker & Warburg. Frederic Warburg published the book despite his wife threatening to leave him if he did publish it. It was horrifying to publish a book so openly mocking the Russians who were our allies in WW2 and had lost so many men in the fight against Hitler. The book came out literally the same month in which the atomic bomb hit Hiroshima and Nagasaki- and although no one would have known it at the time- there’s a bit or irony to think about the fact that the Manhattan Project, an effort basically committed to figuring out how to blow up the world, was literally going on at the exact same time Orwell was writing this warning about the political scenario that would lead to such a disaster- anyway- despite his wife’s protestations, Warburg published the book and the 4,500 copies he printed sold out in just a few days. Nine million copies were sold by 1973 and Warburg gained popularity from his connection to Animal Farm. The fact that the everyone knew the book would be controversial only made them want to read it more.

Even after WWII and the book’s obvious success there has still been some opposition to it in the classroom, although nothing like of mice and men or Huck Finn. In the sixties in Wisconsin the book was challenged because of its phrases about revolution, and people were afraid this would cause public revolt .At the same time in New York, there was opposition because Orwell was a socialist and they did not want to teach a book thought to be written by a communist. But in the end, it has been hailed in free countries as a great exposition of communism, and it’s banned in countries where control of free thought is government policy. Animal Farm is still banned in Cuba, Kenya, and the United Arab Emirates according to the American Library Association. Only a censored version is read in China and the book was banned in Russia from 1945 until the 1980’s. Of course, on the other side of this issue, and this is kind of funny- Animal Farm is the only book I know of that the CIA actually funded, In the 1950s, the CIA actually paid to have an animated version of this book distributed around the world.

It does seem that that this unassuming “fairy tale”does ruffle feathers- it can’t be ignored. There is a lot to say about the different ways to approach this book. First we must look at it in its original historical context, the politics of Russia, Spain, the 1940s, etc...this is how Orwell intende...

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How To Love Lit Podcast - The Metamorphosis - Franz Kafka - Episode #1- I'm a bug!
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08/01/20 • 49 min

The Metamorphosis - Franz Kafka - Episode #1

Hi, I’m Christy Shriver.

And I’m Garry Shriver, and this is the how to love lit Podcast. We’re glad you’re listening- thank you. We hope you enjoy exploring great writing with us, and I want to remind you- if you enjoy our work please forward an episode to a friend. Obviously, it’s by sharing that we all grow and build- which, as the last series on American documents informs us- building is always the goal. Today, however, we are leaving the Americas, and entering the beautiful and historically rich Bohemian city of Prague where we will meet one of its notable native sons, Franz Kafka- in order to look at his famous novella “Metamorphosis”.

Of all the writers we’ve done so far, I have to admit, Kafka intimidates me the most. And it’s not just because he’s one of the most analyzed writers on earth after Shakespeare and the writers of the Bible- although that’s a factor. But kafka gets in people’s heads in a way that is different than other people- the world he creates is a world that we all live in, but at the same time we’re all terrified of- to some degree. Everyone can find themselves in Kafka, and yet- who wants to admit to it- his world feels like a nightmare- in fact, some people call it surreal or dreamlike, except it isn’t.

Which takes us to the term that carries his name kafka-esque- Even if you haven’t heard of Kafka or read his work, you may have heard of or even used the term ‘kafka-esque”- a term usually meant to express an experience that is absurd, ridiculous, nightmarish yet terrible.

Yes- it does mean that- but in some ways- it means more than that- and it embodies something all of who live in the modern world understand. What Kafka tries to show in all of his works is how the modern world is both absurd, frustrating, cruel but ridiculous to the point of funny. He also wants to show us that we are in part responsible for the messes we make in this world. For example, I remember when I was kid in Belo Horizonte, Brazil, we were at the mall (which unlike in the US is a really nice place to go) and I wanted to purchase a hamburger. I went to the counter and asked for the hamburger, the lady said- you have to go over there and buy a ticket at that other counter, then you come back here with your ticket. So, I went to the other side of the store to the cashier and asked for a hamburger- the cashier said they didn’t have hamburgers only cheeseburgers. I asked if I could have a cheeseburger with no cheese. She said she didn’t know, she was just the cashier. I’d have to talk to the manager. So, I went to the manager, waited in a third line, to ask to purchase the cheeseburger He gave me permission, but wrote me a note that I took to cashier. I bought the cheeseburger, but then had to go back to the first lady who then made my burger- she had to conference back with the manager- I waited quite some time, but somehow it had cheese on it and I had to take it off myself- that situation is kafka-esque- frustrating, angering, nonsensical- pointless- but it was all about the bureaucracy of modern living- the thing thst’s supposed to make things easier. But, it’s also funny if you think about it- so much so that I remember it.

I think everyone has a story like that. I remember when I left my job at Shelby County Schools to go to a private school, I then decided to take a part time job from Shelby County Schools at their Virtual Academy. When I went to fill out the application, they asked for a letter of confirmation of employment from my previous employer- and I told them- but YOU are my previous employer. They said, that didn’t matter, I would have to go to downtown office and get the letter regardless. Kafka-esque- a expression of a system that is a tyranny without a tyrant and serves no one but itself to paraphrase the great German-American political theorist Hannah Arendt.

The machine is in charge. And the machine isn’t a person- it’s a frustrating. Nothing.

The legacy of the term kafka-esque describes what has evolved from this unusual man- he knows how to express the frustrations and discouragments of modern life metaphorically in the most vivid and horrifying ways. There’s so many different directions we could take in exploring Kafka, and we’ll do our best to highlights the big ones. The real scholars- which is not us-btw- will tell you all of his works kind of piece themselves together like a sodoku game and if you read all of them they somewhat fit together to create a unified vision of the world- and I, obviously agree with that assessment, although I’ll admit I havent’ read all his works- although honestly, there aren’t THAT many full length works- most of his writings are letters, but even his fiction consists of a lot of short stories. But the novella Metamorphosis is the most well-known.

I want to add- if you’re not up for an entire novella, or even a short story- there is one...

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Wuthering Heights - Episode 2 - Tantrums, Crazy Relationships, Rejection, Revenge!

Hi, I’m Christy Shriver. We’re here to discuss books that have changed the world and have changed us.

I’m Garry Shriver and this is the How to the Love Lit Podcast. Thank you joining us with this educational adventure- we love being here every week with you; Also, as We ask every week, please tell a friend about us or text them an episode- word of mouth pretty is much how we grow. And if you remember, while you’re listening, scroll down to the bottom of your app and hit the five stars or give us a review or both. This week is our second episode in our Wuthering Heights series.

Wuthering meaning strong winds not withering meaning humiliating.- so confusing- although there is a sense where both apply for this book

Yes- I think everyone who first hears that title makes that mistake- I doubt if anyone except Emily Bronte even uses the word Wuthering- I’ve not heard it before. So, blowing through the intro-

Is that a pun

Yes- I thought I’d breeze that one by if I could

Another one gusted right through

Oh my-plowing ahead- by way of review, last week, we introduced, as we always do, the author’s life, and in Bronte’s case a little bit about her incredible family. We also analyzed to some degree chapters 1-3 of the book. We introduced the concept of the frame narrative, if you were unfamiliar with that, and we introduced our first unreliable narrator, Lockwood, a genteel fashionable Englishman who has rented a house from a man who he calls “a capital fellow”, Heathcliff who lives just a little bit up the road in a neighboring estate. As any lodger might be expected to do, he chooses to visit his landlord and ends up spending the night at Wuthering Heights. It’s less than a perfectly hospitable stay; he’s basically run off by his dreams or a ghost (we’re really not sure which), but at the end of chapter three he’s bumbling back across the moor through pits, mounds, swamps through clouds and snow back to his own rental lodging called Thrushcrash grange.

Yes- and in chapter four, he stumbles inside where he is met with his housekeeper, Nelly Dean- who will become our second narrator, and I’ll suggest more unreliable than Lockwood. He asks her how long she’d lived in the house- basically he wants the down low, the 411, the dish, he wants the tea.

And apparently, she’s more than willing to share, and so we all settle in for Nelly’s story. Which today we’ll try to get through chapter 9, maybe a bit into chapter 10.

Charting this book and keeping up with all the back and forth in time is so confusing because the first part of the book is a flashback- but even it jumps around sometimes years at a time. Nelly’s going to tell the story of who is ultimately going to be the main character of the story, a man named Heathcliff. She starts from the time he shows up at Wuthering Heights until the present day or the day Lockwood originally shows up at that house on that day in chapter one- so dates and times, ages and names are all extremely confusing the whole way through the book. In fact, the first time I read this book, I have to be honest, I was so lost, I printed out a family tree and a time chart and kind of kept it next to me while I read with the names and dates on it. But hopefully, we can walk you through that madness and save you the hours of research- if it’s just as confusing for you. We’ve also included a link on our website to a very helpful website wuthering-heights.co.uk- it has a fabulous timeline that I would recommend everyone taking a look at.

Christy, if I may ask, why do so many authors do things like strange narrative styles? Are these things trends or something of the time? Is there a thematic purpose?

Well, of course, yes and yes- they are trends- and they do come and go- but I will say for a book that is this popular for so long, there’s got to be something to it, and I think there is. And we can see this right here at the beginning of chapter 4, but it’s something we can follow through throughout the entire. What Bronte is doing is creating something a a double narration technique- now let me say- doubles is the name of the game in this book- besides two narrators, there are two houses, two love interests, two children, two Cathy’s- there’s basically two of everything the whole way through. But in the case of the narrators, what is does is give you this double perspective- on the one hand you have the guy, Lockwood who comes in from the outside, he’s a stranger and he’s so fascinated with everything he sees. Then on the other hand you have this narrator who we are going to see is extremely intimate with everything that goes on- she’s also invested and has strong opinions about how thing SHOULD be with this family she’s lived with her entire life, and really feels a part of. In some sense she’s an outside observer because sh...

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Charles Dickens - A Christmas Carol - Episode 1 - The Architect Of The Victorian Christmas!

/Hi, I’m Christy Shriver and we’re here to discuss books that have changed the world and have changed us.

I’m Garry Shriver and this is the How to Love Lit Podcast. If you are listening to this in real time, we are nearing the end of 2021, a year that has been lackluster by most measurements albeit an improvement to 2020. Most of us began 2021 tucked away in quarantine. I was teaching on Zoom; Christy was meeting with only half of her students half the time on a hybrid schedule. No year, in my lifetime, has began in such a strange way. In some ways, it felt that the Covid era would never end.

And yet, here we are, celebrating the end of 2021 with family and friends. We started this end of year holiday season cooking turkey and ham for Thanksgiving dinner in our home- American staples. We have attended friendsgivings, Christmas parties and on December 23rd we will participate in another Memphis tradition that was suspended for the 2020 year, attending with most of our children: Anna, Lizzy, Ben and Rachel- Theater Memphis’ annual performance of Charles Dickens’ A Christmas Carol. For those who don’t know our family dynamic, we are a growing blended family. Anna and Lizzy have lived in Knoxville, TN for most this year as students at the University of Tennessee in Knoxviille. Ben and Rachel live her in Memphis, and Emily and Joel live in Atlanta with their three children- Selma, Polly and Ezra.

I love Christmas. I love the food, decorating our home, visiting with friends, the special services at church- all of it.

Well, I do too, but I will say, since marrying into the Shriver family, I have learned to take it to the next level. Shriver’s are notable for their holiday passion- all holidays really but especially Christmas. I will also say, that before studying for this podcast, I had no idea so many of the Christmas traditions that we love so much we owe to Victorian England.

Oh for sure, in fact, Christmas was not even a federal holiday in this country until 1870. And even then it was an unpaid holiday. It didn’t become a paid holiday until 1938.

Well, that is very Scroog-ish. So, let’s talk about which Christmas traditions we inherited from Victorian England- many of which have found their way all around the globe. You know, growing up in Brazil, just by nature of the weather we had different holiday traditions- we were in the Southern hemisphere, so instead of wishing for a white Christmas- we were always looking forward to heading to the beach after Christmas, but even in a climate with more palm trees than pine trees although, my friends parents were putting up little Christmas trees and other decorations- I emphasize little not because they were belittling the traditions but there was much more limited economic access ( remember Brazil in those days was a military dictatorship with high government control) but even as such- It’s interesting to see some of these same Victorian traditions.


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I’m Christy Shriver and we’re here to discuss books that have changed the world and have changed us.

I’m Garry Shriver and this is the How to Love lit Podcast. This is our third episode in our four part series on Aldous Huxley’s negative utopia Brave New World. In episode 1, we met Huxley and toured London’s Central Hatchery, covering chapters 1 and 2. In episode 2, we discussed chapters 3-5 meeting two characters from the novel. I want to point out that they are main characters, and when they were introduced, I expected them to be heroes, but these two are definitely not heroic- Bernard Marx and Lenina Crowne. Through the first five chapters we accompany them on an average evening, an average evening for everyone in the brave new world- not just for them- and average evening in this world consists of two things- soma-taking and sex. Now in episode 3 we accompany these two as they cross the Atlantic to the American continent and then return in chapters 6-11. They bring back with them a character who comes closest to being a hero, he comes closest to being us, John Savage from the reservation. Our plan today is to explore primitive life on the reservation and the contrasts Huxley creates for us as well as watch John the Savage as he interacts with the Brave New World on his return.

Christy, before we get into that I want to revisit a few important ideas from earlier episodes. As we think about how Huxley drew these standardized humans, and their lives, it’s more and more obvious that Huxley, himself, is not advocating for life a comfortable and happy life, at least in the way he defines these terms. Comfortable meaning no anxiety; happy meaning full of distractions and entertainment.

No, we have to read this entire book as irony- everything he is defending is the opposite of what he’s describing. It’s what makes this book confusing to many readers. The farther we get into the chapters, the more bitter the irony- even positive words like hygienic and beautiful and happy are used by Huxley to make us question if even these are really good things at all.

One place to pay attention is when reading how the characters talk to and about each other. What we see is that there is zero sense of what we consider to be meaningful relationship. They talk about each other and to each other as if they were merchandise, or to use Huxley’s term- meat- dead or alive. Huxley as a student of biology and psychology really pushes the scientific boundaries and even our imaginations to the limits. He asks how far will society, or the power structure of our world go when it comes to psychological manipulation through conditioning? Are there ethical limits or boundaries in the messages we hear from political or commercial leadership- and Huxley does not really see that there is a difference between these two. And not just through repetition and peer pressure but also through government/cultural sanctioned drug use and sexual behaviors. All of this, of course always expressed as being for the common good. Not even the world leaders in a Brave New World have nefarious motives. There is no obvious villain, no Hitler or Stalin out there murdering innocent people. The government is doing everything in the name of general good, and yet, we, as readers are made to question if this is really the case.


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Wuthering Heights - Episode 4 - Emily Bronte - Marriage, Kidnapping, Co-dependency And Other Signs of Love!

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Hi, this is Christy Shriver. We’re here to talk about books that changed the world and changed us.

I’m Garry Shriver and this is the How to Love lit Podcast. This is our fourth episode discussing the tumultuous inhabitants of Wuthering Heights and its neighboring estate Thrushcross Grange. And I must say, Bronte aptly selected the appropriate metaphor to develop the characters in the book as we have seen in the last three episodes, but just when you thought Bronte has pushed her characters as far as they could go, she takes it one step farther. In episode 1, we introduced Emily Bronte herself, we met Lockwood, our first narrator, and the we met briefly most of the main characters in the book: HC, Catherine, the mom via her ghost, Catherine the daughter, Hareton, Joseph and, of course Nelly.

I guess the only reason we didn’t meet the rest of them is because they’re all dead.

Yes- here we already started with the name confusion because both female protagonists have the same name- And it’s not surprising once you get to meet Catherine ONE- if you want to call her that- that she doesn’t exit the story- not even upon death. Catherine ONE is one character who will not be ignored, and she basically dominated our discussions in the last three episodes. We discussed her and Heathcliff’s relationship as children, her relationship with the neighbors Edgar and Isabella and then finally the love-triangle that defined her life and untimely death between herself, Edgar and Heathcliff.

Yes- Catherine’s presence does dominate and define both Edgar and Heathcliff’s lives from the beginning to the end, but earlier I made the statement that I think Heathcliff himself is the central character in the story- and I know that’s arguable- I still see him as the more interesting character. At the beginning we are made to sympathize with him as he’s abused and neglected by those responsible to care and provide for him. He’s rejected by Catherine who, although claims to love him, chooses to marry Edgar, the rich neighbor. However, after Catherine’s death, there is a vengeful evil in Heathcliff that particularly defines the middle portion of the book- and although it certainly doesn’t make him a likeable person- it does make him a dynamic character- and if you remember what that means- a dynamic character is one that changes over the course of the story- and in his case, we see a stark difference between the Heathcliff that runs away after Catherine crushes him, and the Heathcliff that comes back determined to get revenge on everyone in his life.

And this seems to basically center around two people although he targets many more. He wants revenge on Hindley for abusing him as a child, and he wants revenge on Edgar for taking his girl.

And this of course brings us to Isabella and their marriage which is nothing short of horrific. It ends as violently as it begins (remember he hangs her dog on the way to the elopement). On the night she leaves him forever, she blames him for Catherine’s death- literally saying Catherine was too smart to bear his abhorent last name without expressing her disgust, then he picks up a dinner knife and flings it at her head. It strikes her beneath her ear...one last abuse...she pulls it out kind of undoing the violence that had united them in marriage...and runs away.

Well, and what we find this week, is that that’s just the very beginning of the violence, rage and evil Heathcliff is capable of. Are you sure, Heathcliff’s been called a hero- even a Byronic hero seems a kind description of what this guy seems to be?

Ha! Well, he’s definitely not a traditional knight in shining armor, but you have to remember, this is a gothic novel- and gothic novels have different rules. I guess, I should kind of define what that is- although briefly- gothic is the kind of word most of us have heard of and we think we know what it means, but we’re not sure. Gothic novels were really a fad in the late 1700s thrgh Bronte’s lifetime and There is a group of characteristics that came to define what these novels were about and honestly even today we recognize these traits that signal we might be reading a gothic novel-- for example, they usually involve a castle- either ruined or haunted, lots of shadows, beams of moonlight in the blackness, flickering candles, extreme landscapes, omens and/or ancestral curses, magic or supernatural manifestations, a passion-driven willful villain-hero or villain, a heroine with a tendency to faint, a hero who’s true identity is revealed at the end, or a horrifying series of events. Gothic novels have things like necrophilia, incest, diabolism, social chaos, imprisonments, things like that. They play around with the concepts of fear, they push boundaries between life and death, light and darkness- san...

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Patrick Henry-"Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death!" - Part 1 of the American Documents Series

Hi, I’m Christy Shriver. And welcome to the How to Love Lit Podcast.

I’m Garry Shriver. We’re glad you’re joining us, if you enjoy our work, please consider supporting us by giving us a five star rating on your podcast ap, such as apple. Also, consider texting your favorite episode to a friend. That’s how we grow.

Today, we begin a three part series where we explore three historical documents that have fallen into the American literary canon, not only for their historical importance, but also for their literary excellence.

As the history person, I get very excited when history and literature overlap- and today’s speech is an incredible example of literature changing the world.

Yes- that’s right. Today, we are going to analyze Patrick Henry’s Speech to the Virginian Convention- clearly a persuasive writing piece. Next week we’re going to look at the Declaration of Independence, and finally, we’re going to read and discuss the Constitution of the United States of America- primarily from a literary perspective. I’m very excited to explore these works, not just because they ae famous, but because they are rhetorical. As we’ve discussed, a lot of my teaching instruction centers around the analysis of rhetoric and these works are some of the very first in the American Canon- they are foundational but I don’t say BEST, because honestly, America has produced some really remarkable and important pieces of rhetoric. We’ve already featured Frederick Douglass and Elizabeth Cady Stanton, but that’s not even the tip of the iceberg. There is a lot that has gone into the American conversation over the last 200 years, so Garry, since we’re starting at the beginning- which I guess we’re not- we’re onbly starting 200 years ago, but start us 200 years ago with the migration of European peoples to the Americas as our starting point, how do we get to Patrick Henry?

The tide of migration from Europe to North America, is only one occasion of the restless movements of mankind on this planet we all share. Of course, just on this podcast, we’ve looked at the Greek spirit as well as the Roman spirit, most notably represented through the person of Julius Caesar. But, of course, world history is the story of this progression- if you want to call it that- all over the globe. What stands as unique in the North American case, and something that was highly unusual, is that the thousands who came to the North American colonies did not only come here to exploit and conquer in the name of the Motherland- although that happened here too- there is little doubt. But strangely, most of the voluntary immigrants, did so because they did not like the country they came from nor many of the patterns of life that had evolved there.

In the beginning they were the offscouring of European society whose condition was so bad that moving to a wilderness settlement was a better option.

They came to create a new political and religious world- and although the North American story is not a story of perfect people doing perfect things- it’s often bloodly and sad- but what has emerged here after many years of stuggle- has become a notable success story for many on planet earth. The ideals that developed over the last 300 years have elevated the quality of life for millions that today call the United States home. So we want to take the next three weeks to explore three foundational documents that set in motion a system of government that is the basis for the oldest continuous working democracy in the world- today we’re going to look at Patrick Henry’s fiery speech before the Revolutionary war at the Virginia convention. Next week we’ll read through the Declaration of Independence and lastly we’ll look at to the Constitution.

Yes- When we think of exploration around the world, or at least me as I was brought up studying the colonization of Brazil and then last week as we saw with the Conquistadores- but I know this is also true for migrations to the African continent- we think of European developers looking for resources from other lands and and taking them back to Europe. For example, in the case of the Brazil, most colonizers were men employed by companies. They wanted gold, wood and other natural resources.

Well, don’t think that didn’t happened in North America too because that’s part of our story too. Four of the 13 colonies in North America owed their origins to trading companies. The English, the Dutch, the Swedes all christened settlements that eventually became colonies. So we have that. We also have this unusual religious foundation that we don’t commonly see in other colonizations movements. And in the case of this part of North Americs- it was the most influential faction. There were at least 20,000 pilgrims alone who came over in this group. I know lots of people are familiar with...

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How To Love Lit Podcast - Night - Elie Wiesel - Episode #3 - Auschwitz, Birkenau and Buna.
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04/26/21 • 38 min

Night - Elie Wiesel - Episode #3 - Auschwitz, Birkenau and Buna.

Hi, I’m Christy Shriver. We are here to look at books that have changed the world and can even change us.

And I’m Garry Shriver; this is the How to Love Lit Podcast. This is our third episode featuring the great Dr. Elie Wiesel and his holocaust memoir Night. In episode one, we discussed Wiesel’s life story spanning the many years of his life before but then after the holocaust. We highlighted the impact this man has had on planet earth as an advocate for peace. He stands out among the greatest advocates for peace in the 20th century, the most genocidal evil century in the history of our planet, and he spoke of the necessity of man as a matter of survival to forgive: to seek Morality and ethical values, to honor the sanctity of human life, and to pursue the wisdom to distinguish between evil, revenge and justice.

Last week, we went back in time to Sighet and listened to little Elie as he introduced to us his friend Moshe the Beadle, his family and his world. We watched his world shrink smaller and smaller until he and his family were confined into a cattle car- where they ironically LONGED to reach their final destination- the ultimate situational irony, a place they had never heard of, a place the world must never forget, Auschwitz. But, Garry, the story is so so sad.

Well, it’s incredibly sad. And there is a part of me that rejects wanting to even know about this. It’s horrible and is a reminder of evil. Yet, Wiesel, as a writer was absolutely obsessed with memory. His greatest fear was that one day humanity would forget about the holocaust. We would white wash it, pretend it didn’t happen, or change the way it happened in our collective memory to make it something it wasn’t. He wanted the make a mark through the written word to fight that. But that leads us to an incredibly important question historians who study the holocaust discuss and that is what should we take away from the study of the holocaust.

Well, for starters, memory of any kind- be it personal or collective- is an incredibly powerful part of being human. There are so many reasons why we treasure memory. You and I love to travel and a lot of that has to do with the culmination of memories it creates in my head and heart. Some of my favorite memories of my children’s lives are from trips we’ve taken together. I think about remembering my mother who died many years ago, when I hear certain songs or even eat certain foods, I remember her, her love, the lessons she taught me.

Yes- and there you are getting closer to its greater purpose. Memory serves to help us extract lessons for the present and help project us into the future, and THIS clearly is Wiesel’s purpose for recording the personally painful events of his life- the most painful of these will be in the chapters we read this week and next. He isn’t the only one Saul Friedlander says that the memory of extreme events carry them an ethical imperative. – meaning survivors MUST.

Another thing, as far as writers and survivors go, these witnesses, such as Wiesel and Friedlander among others who have recorded horrific events seem to agree that the memory, the recording of it, is their tool for combating an apathy towards human history that can naturally develop in a comfortable existence when things like that may feel like encyclopedia entries. It’s one thing to say that Kubla Khan or Julius Caesar were ruthless. It’s another thing for a witness to tell his/her story of what that means.

You are exactly right. And here we see why public memory or especially collective memory matters. Memory gives people a tool to resist destructive things sometimes ones that are even natural at the present moment. And this can be practical, helpful.

That seems all good for historians, but for non-history people, sometimes I have to wonder- What is the point? Why not forget? Wouldn’t Wiesel have been better off to, as they “put all this behind him”? Wouldn’t we, as a culture- to just let it go? Auschwitz is so horrific- such a symbol of the capacity for evil living in man. Do you think stories such as these should be remembered- or is it glorifying it- giving it a place when it doesn’t deserve one. I know there’s the cliché- those who don’t know the past are doomed to repeat it?- to not be guilty of this sort of thing ever again? Is there validity to that.

Yes- I think there is. Although, honestly that’s only one part of it. And I will also concede this, historians are not in agreement if that cliche is even true all the time. Sometimes memory creates things like feuds that go back, tribal conflicts that last generations- and things of that nature. It’s so difficult to understand what to do with our memories.

How should we let them orient our future is not so simplistic .

We don’t understand what it means. Again back to the great holocaust historian Saul...

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The Metamorphosis - Franz Kafka - Episode #3 - The lessons on becoming an isolated insect.

Hi, I’m Christy Shriver.

And I’m Garry Shriver and this is the How to love lit Podcast. Thanks for being with us. If you’re enjoying our podcast please tell a friend!

This is our third and final week to be discussing Kafka’s popular novella The Metamorphosis. In episode one, we looked at the author’s life, his difficult relationship with his abusive father, and the context of the turn of the century to somewhat situate ourselves in Kafka’s world. We also took a look at the title and the first line of the story, trying to navigate the German, albeit poorly, but one of the main takeaways that we want to keep in mind from that discussion is the idea that Kafka is writing a story about a person who has changed into a vermin, a dirty bug unfit not even for human sacrifice.

Great point to have in mind as we continue to the end of the book. By way of one interesting little anecdote about Kafka’s life and that word vermin in regard to his father- now, lots and lots has been written and many people ask about Kafka’s Jewishness and how much of his writing is about his experiences as a Jew- especially knowing what we know about the coming holocaust, I don’t think it is necessarily interesting for us to discuss, except for this one story- so Franz had made friends with these Eastern European Jews who were poor and he was hanging out with them about the time he was writing this book. Hermann Kafka did not like Franz hanging out with them and actually used the word “vermin” to describes these people who he found to be unacceptable and beneath kafka’s station. There is speculation that this personal interaction is where he got the name, but I’m not sure anyone knows for absolutely sure. We know the Nazis used it in reference to Jews later, but I couldn’t any direct connection in that regard, although I stand to be corrected if there’s one I don’t know about.

Last week, we turned to philosophy and kind of looked at this book, as you called it, through the lens of the existential world view. We talked about how the core value of existentialism is human agency and the importance of taking personal responsibility for one’s life looking at everything through the lens of choice. And, Christy, it was obvious, at least to me, that as an expression of existentialism, you found Gregor to be lacking.

Indeed, I do find him lacking. He is passive about his own life. He’s always been passive about his own life. As you said, in his mind, he seems to justify this in his own mind by viewing this irresponsibility as being willing to take responsibility for every one else in the world, and perhaps there is good in that, but yet he refuses to take any responsibility for his own self. He finds ways to justify in his own mind this refusal to assume agency- and even sees it as a noble or as a good thing to do for others but not himself – as a reader, we can clearly see this perspective as confining to his personal growth- it’s expressed as claustrophobic- like being locked up and it breeds despair and what ultimately is killing him really.

True- and this is where so many of us can relate. When we look at Gregor’s transformation into a bug and how repulsive he is- it’s easy for many of us to see ourselves. To say- Holy CRAP- this is my life. I’ve been a bug. I AM a bug! I’m letting other people make decisions for me that I should be making. I’m making excuses for my own inaction or using my personal power. Or, maybe it’s just easier to be a martyr in our own minds and serve other people than to figure out what we want for ourselves- questions that are actually harder than you would think. Gregor seems to never ask these kinds of questions.

And what you find out- after you have turned yourself into a bug is that you absolutely do NOT get what you thought you would- this kind of living is actually repulsive to others and it doesn’t get for us the meaning in life we think it might. But the other way doesn’t work all that well either- because living selfishly- which is what bug life primarily leads to- isn’t all that great either. Gregor clearly valued his family. He clearly loved his family. He was sacrificing his whole life for his family, but he did not demand reciprocity of respect from them for whatever reason- and so they didn’t give it to him- not even before physically turning into a bug and definitely not after. The relationships in this family were never truly healthy to begin with, and what we see develop into the second and third parts of the book- are larger and larger illustrations of isolation and alienation which ultimately overwhelm Gregor.

Indeed- before we move on through the rest of the book, I did want to revisit one more important take away from last week and this is what Kierkegaard calls negative independence- the idea that if you are trapped in a situation like w...

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