
America, humiliated
01/07/21 • 46 min
Zack, Jenn, and Jen Kirby discuss the assault on the US Capitol by a pro-Trump insurrection that has shaken America to its core. They look at the intelligence and law enforcement failures that allowed a mob to so easily seize one of the pillars of American government despite the US having spent billions on national security since 9/11. In the second half of the show, they talk about the damage the siege has done to America’s image abroad and what that means for the future of global politics and democracy.
References:
Threats spread online before the assault on the US Capitol
Buzzfeed’s report on the right-wing online organizing
What we know about the security failures
The Washington Post’s report on the role of the National Guard
A coup expert on Wednesday’s events
How world leaders are reacting
ITV’s report on the Capitol insurrection
The Atlantic’s Anne Applebaum on the diminished power of America’s democratic example
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
Jen Kirby (@j_kirby1), foreign reporter, Vox
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Zack, Jenn, and Jen Kirby discuss the assault on the US Capitol by a pro-Trump insurrection that has shaken America to its core. They look at the intelligence and law enforcement failures that allowed a mob to so easily seize one of the pillars of American government despite the US having spent billions on national security since 9/11. In the second half of the show, they talk about the damage the siege has done to America’s image abroad and what that means for the future of global politics and democracy.
References:
Threats spread online before the assault on the US Capitol
Buzzfeed’s report on the right-wing online organizing
What we know about the security failures
The Washington Post’s report on the role of the National Guard
A coup expert on Wednesday’s events
How world leaders are reacting
ITV’s report on the Capitol insurrection
The Atlantic’s Anne Applebaum on the diminished power of America’s democratic example
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
Jen Kirby (@j_kirby1), foreign reporter, Vox
Consider contributing to Vox:
If you value Worldly’s work, please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts
More to explore:
Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram.
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Hindsight is 2020
Jenn, Alex, and Jen wrap up 2020 by discussing the biggest stories that flew under the radar this year because of, well, everything. They talk about the war in Ethiopia, a major leadership change in Japan, and Russian President Vladimir Putin’s constitutional amendments that allow him to stay in power basically for life. Then they turn to the big storylines they’re watching in 2021, including the end of Angela Merkel’s chancellorship in Germany, Joe Biden’s Latin America policy, and potential North Korean provocations. Most importantly, the gang wishes everyone a safe and joyful holiday season.
References:
Today, Explained explains Ethiopia’s crisis
A top aid official on Ethiopia’s humanitarian crisis
Alex’s reporting on Japan’s remilitarization
Who is Japan’s new prime minister?
Putin’s president-for-life plans
The race to replace Angela Merkel
Joe Biden looks to Latin America
The challenges of US policy in Latin America
Will Kim Jong Un welcome Biden with a weapons test?
Hosts:
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), national security reporter, Vox
Jen Kirby (@j_kirby1), foreign reporter, Vox
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If you value Worldly’s work, please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts
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Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram.
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Was it terrorism?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss how the US Capitol insurrection fits into the broader spectrum of far-right political violence in the US. They debate whether the incident should be considered an act of terrorism, and if so, what that means in terms of how to craft policy responses to the threat. They end by looking at President Donald Trump’s role in uniting disparate far-right groups, from white supremacists to eco-fascists to anti-government militias, into a loose but dangerous coalition that may persist long after he leaves office.
References:
Jenn has a Vox story on what constitutes “domestic terrorism”
Zack wrote that “Republicans own this”
Vox’s Fabiola Cineas says that “Donald Trump is the accelerant”
Here’s Vox’s explainer on the Proud Boys
And here’s Vox’s explainer on the QAnon conspiracy theory
Lawfare has a smart piece on how the far-right is fractured
Vice wrote about how neo-Nazis use imagery of Osama bin Laden
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), White House reporter, Vox
Consider contributing to Vox:
If you value Worldly’s work, please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts
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Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram.
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