
Why Have Smaller States Been Hit So Hard by Economic Shocks?
02/03/23 • 19 min
The recently released January edition of this year’s Global Economic Prospects report warns that the global economy is dangerously close to a recession, with worldwide economic output projected to be just 1.7% in 2023. While the outlook for all economies is quite grim, the edition takes a special focus on the plight of 37 small states—countries with a population of 1.5 million or less—that are already vulnerable to shocks stemming from the pandemic, climate change, disruptions to tourism and more.
In this episode of The Development Podcast, we speak with three guests: Dana Vorisek, senior economist and one of the lead report authors of the Global Economic Prospects report; the Hon. Tiofilusi Tiueti, Minister for Finance and Tonga World Bank Governor; and Anna Kay, a female-owned restauranteur in Jamaica, who share their insights and experiences to the impacts of a worsening global economy on already vulnerable states.
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Featured Voices
- Dana Vorisek, Senior Economist, World Bank Group. "The main reason small states were really hard hit by COVID was tourism. People were fearful of traveling, but also these countries shut their borders for a long time."
- Hon. Tiofilusi Tiueti, Minister for Finance and Tonga World Bank Governor. "The impact of climate change is obviously reflected on the frequency and intensity of a natural disaster, which further impacted our primary sector for economic development."
- Anna Kay, a female-owned restauranteur in Jamaica. "We can't get a lot of the things that we used to get, brands that we used to get before, or supplies that we used to get. The biggest thing is the cost of things."
Timestamps
[00:00] Welcome and introduction of the topic
[01:29] Insights from the Global Economics Prospects Report
[03:51] Visions from the Caribbean: The case of Jamaica
[08:18] Visions from the Pacific: The case of Tonga
[13:56] Characteristics, challenges and vulnerabilities of small states
[18:44] Closing and thanks for tuning in!
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The recently released January edition of this year’s Global Economic Prospects report warns that the global economy is dangerously close to a recession, with worldwide economic output projected to be just 1.7% in 2023. While the outlook for all economies is quite grim, the edition takes a special focus on the plight of 37 small states—countries with a population of 1.5 million or less—that are already vulnerable to shocks stemming from the pandemic, climate change, disruptions to tourism and more.
In this episode of The Development Podcast, we speak with three guests: Dana Vorisek, senior economist and one of the lead report authors of the Global Economic Prospects report; the Hon. Tiofilusi Tiueti, Minister for Finance and Tonga World Bank Governor; and Anna Kay, a female-owned restauranteur in Jamaica, who share their insights and experiences to the impacts of a worsening global economy on already vulnerable states.
Tell us what you think of our podcast here >>>. We would love to hear from you!
Featured Voices
- Dana Vorisek, Senior Economist, World Bank Group. "The main reason small states were really hard hit by COVID was tourism. People were fearful of traveling, but also these countries shut their borders for a long time."
- Hon. Tiofilusi Tiueti, Minister for Finance and Tonga World Bank Governor. "The impact of climate change is obviously reflected on the frequency and intensity of a natural disaster, which further impacted our primary sector for economic development."
- Anna Kay, a female-owned restauranteur in Jamaica. "We can't get a lot of the things that we used to get, brands that we used to get before, or supplies that we used to get. The biggest thing is the cost of things."
Timestamps
[00:00] Welcome and introduction of the topic
[01:29] Insights from the Global Economics Prospects Report
[03:51] Visions from the Caribbean: The case of Jamaica
[08:18] Visions from the Pacific: The case of Tonga
[13:56] Characteristics, challenges and vulnerabilities of small states
[18:44] Closing and thanks for tuning in!
ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PODCAST
This international development podcast brings together the data, research—and solutions—that can pave the way to a sustainable future. Through conversations focused on revealing the latest data, the best research, and cutting-edge solutions, let us introduce you to the folks working to make the world a better place. Listen and subscribe for free on your favorite platform. And rate our show! ;)
Tell us what you think of our podcast here >>>. We would love to hear from you!
ABOUT THE WORLD BANK
The World Bank is one of the world’s largest sources of funding and knowledge for low-income countries. Its five institutions share a commitment to reducing poverty, increasing shared prosperity, and promoting sustainable development.
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Timestamps
[00:00] Welcome and introduction of the topic
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[06:47] Policy steps being taken
[09:28] Monetary tightening, raising interest rates, subsidies, inflation
[16:07] Stories of people's lives
[17:30] Inflation and food security: Visions from a pizza baker in Cairo
[19:42] Closing and thanks for tuning in!
ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PODCAST
This international development podcast brings together the data, research—and solutions—that can pave the way to a sustainable future. Through conversations focused on revealing the latest data, the best research, and cutting-edge solutions, let us introduce you to the folks working to make the world a better place. Listen and subscribe for free on your favorite platform. And rate our show! ;)
Tell us what you think of our podcast here >>>. We would love to hear from you!
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The World Bank is one of the world’s largest sources of funding and knowledge for low-income countries. Its five institutions share a commitment to reducing poverty, increasing shared prosperity, and promoting sustainable development.
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[01:20] Fragility, conflict, and violence (FCV) settings
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[11:22] The case of Lebanon and FCV settings
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[15:25] Conflict in fragile settings and middle-income countries
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ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PODCAST
This international development podcast brings together the data, research—and solutions—that can pave the way to a sustainable future. Through conversations focused on revealing the latest data, the best research, and cutting-edge solutions, let us introduce you to the folks working to make the world a better place. Listen and subscribe for free on your favorite platform. And rate our show! ;)
Tell us what you think of our podcast here >>>. We would love to hear from you!
ABOUT THE WORLD BANK
The World Bank is one of the world’s largest sources of funding and knowledge for low-income countries. Its five institutions share a commitment to reducing poverty, increasing shared prosperity, and promoting sustainable development.
World Bank | The Development Podcast - Why Have Smaller States Been Hit So Hard by Economic Shocks?
Transcript
Hello, and welcome to The Development Podcast from the World Bank Group. I'm Raka Banerjee.
Srimathi Sridhar:
And I'm Srimathi Sridhar. Coming up, why are small states facing such low economic growth?
Raka Banerjee:
The latest World Bank Global Economic Prospects Report highlighted the big challenges facing small countries, and their slow recovery from the pandemic. We hear from one of the report authors.
Dana Vo
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