What Do You Know To Be True?
Roger Kastner
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is a podcast series with ordinary people about their extraordinary talent, their superhero power, and the meaningful impact it has on others.
Charting a path to unlocking one's potential starts with a deeper understanding of one’s superpower and how to make a meaningful impact in service of others.
In these conversations, Roger Kastner seeks to discover more about our guests' path to purpose and unlocking potential by exploring their journey from developing their extraordinary talent to creating meaningful impact for others.
The goal of these conversations is not to try to emulate it or “hack” our way to a new talent. Instead, these conversations are to inspire you to think deeply about how to create positive impact in service of others.
This podcast is for Org Development practitioners, coaches, mentors, and anyone who works with other people to unlock their challenges and achieve more. Our audience thinks deeply about their work, the space they hold, and the positive impact it has in service of others.
Our guests bring humility, insights, gratitude, and humor as they delve deep into their experiences, learnings, and impact their "superhero power" has had when used successfully.
The path to purpose: Ordinary people, extraordinary talent, meaningful impact in the service of others.
By learning more about what inspired our guests to develop this extraordinary talent, how they think about their superhero power, and the impact it has on others as well as themselves, we gain inspiration and awareness of our superhero powers and our path to a more fulfilling life in the service of others.
At the heart of our conversations lies the fundamental notion that understanding the inspiration for one's superhero power is pivotal to unlocking a deeper understanding of purpose. In these episodes, we delve deep into what ignites this extraordinary talent within our guests, how they nurture it, and the remarkable ways it enriches the lives of others when employed in service of a greater good.
Whether you're a coach, mentor, educator, organization development practitioner, or simply someone navigating your own journey to finding your purpose and how you can create meaning for your life, this podcast aims to offer a wealth of wisdom to deepen your understanding and enhance your impact.
We steer clear of the notion of gimmicks or shortcuts, recognizing that the pursuit of purpose is a deeply personal and nuanced endeavor. By approaching each conversation with humility, vulnerability, and curiosity, we uncover the unique facets of our guests' superhero powers, how they developed and nurtured those talents, and the impact they have on themselves and others when used. In doing so, we hope to inspire others by witnessing how those stories resonate with our own journeys and experiences.
Expect to be inspired, challenged, and uplifted as our guests share their profound insights, peppered with humility, gratitude, and a generous dose of humor (be sure to check out the blooper highlights at the end). Through their anecdotes, reflections, and wisdom, we gain a deeper appreciation for the transformative potential of our superhero powers and the ripple effect they create in the lives of others.
Our purpose is to inspire you to explore the possibilities that lie within you, to ignite your potential, and chart a course towards a life of purpose, service, and meaningful fulfillment.
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How to Help Others Own Their Voice | Sports Broadcaster Jen Mueller
What Do You Know To Be True?
11/12/24 • 59 min
As a leader, coach or mentor, our role is to help others find their voice and tell their story.
Of course we want to improve our abilities to do this for our people, so I reached out to a professional sports broadcaster and storyteller, Jen Mueller, to learn how she has honed her craft.
Today’s guest is one of those amazing storytellers. I’m grateful for the opportunity to sit down with Jen Mueller and learn more about her extraordinary talent of empowering others to own their voice.
Jen is well known for her sidelines reporting and post-game interviews with the Seattle Seahawks and Seattle Mariners.
Jen frequently interviews athletes right after they made the game winning play and when they’ve made a mistake to lose a game.
And she doesn’t shy away from asking the difficult questions, not only because that’s her job, but because the athletes and coaches want the opportunity to answer those questions.
Off the field, Jen is a keynote speaker, leadership consultant, and content creator, sharing valuable insights from her experiences in sports and beyond.
In this episode, Jen answers the following questions:
- How do you help someone to tell their story?
- How do you get someone to tell their story?
- What does it mean to have your own voice?
- What does it mean to own your own story?
My favorite quote from the episode: “Open-end questions create confusion.”
In coaching and consulting, we’re told to ask open-ended questions, so hearing this perspective was really valuable. The context of a coaching or consulting conversation is much different than a news interview, but I had not thought about open-ended questions like this before.
What I know to be true about the episode: Jen is a pro. I love how well thought-out and planful her strategies and tactics are, and how she bakes in contingency and flexibility into her frameworks to reflect the rapidly-changing nature of sports.
What I learned from the episode: Jen shared two great frameworks. The first is about the relationship-building power of saying “Hello” and how simple it is as a precursor to a deepening of trust. The second framework is how she identifies and nurtures questions through the day, the week, and a season.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
- Jen’s company: Talk Sporty To Me
Keywords
#OwnYouVoice #Storytelling #SportsBroadcaster #Empathy #Curiosity #Connection
Music in this episode by Ian Kastner.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is a series of conversations where I speak with interesting people about their special talent or superhero power and the meaningful impact it has on others. The intention is to learn more about their experience with their superhero power, so that we can learn something about the special talent in each of us which allows us to connect more deeply with our purpose and achieve our potential.
For more info about the podcast or to check out more episodes, go to: https://whatdoyouknowtobetrue.com/
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is hosted by Roger Kastner, is a production of Three Blue Pens, and is recorded on the ancestral lands of the Duwamish and Suquamish people. To discover the ancestral lands of the indigenous people whose land you may be on, go to: https://native-land.ca/
An Invitation to Co-Create | Mike Geyer | True Snacks
What Do You Know To Be True?
06/12/24 • 13 min
We sing the praises of collaboration all the time, but how we invite others to engage and collaborate have a huge impact on the experience and outcomes.
Mike Geyer, a business and technology consultant, a storyteller, and a Global Accounts Executive at Adobe, has created his own approach to inviting others to engage and co-create in developing novel solutions to business challenges.
Instead of a normal conversation or a simple beverage transaction, Mike offers an invitation through vulnerability, play, humor, and creativity which engages his counterpart into a more engaged interaction - or it doesn't.
But when it works, great things are possible because he has created something he and the other person have co-created and can share. It's from these conditions that he’s created, and the invitation he’s put out there, that the stage is set for great things to happen.
His superhero power, Creating Authentic Connections, is on full display in this conversation.
In this conversation, Mike answers the following questions:
- What is an authentic connection?
- How do I create an authentic connection?
- What are the possibilities and benefits of an authentic connection?
- How do I create an invitation for a different type of interaction?
- How to create your own coffee shop name?
Here's the link to the full episode: https://whatdoyouknowtobetrue.com/video/creating-authentic-connections-with-mike-geyer
“True Snacks” is a series of excerpts from the "What Do You Know To Be True?" podcast. The purpose behind this series to share some of the key learning moments from the podcast. If you like the conversation, please share this episode with one other person. Thank you!
Music in this episode created by Ian Kastner.
All "What Do You Know To Be True? and "True Snacks" episodes are here on YouTube, and they are available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and on our website at https://whatdoyouknowtobetrue.com/
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is a series of conversations where I speak with interesting people about their special talent or superhero power and the meaningful impact it has on others. The intention is to learn more about their experience with their superhero power, so that we can learn something about the special talent in each of us which allows us to connect more deeply with our purpose. For more info, go to: https://whatdoyouknowtobetrue.com/
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is hosted by Roger Kastner, is a production of Three Blue Pens, and is recorded on the ancestral lands of the Duwamish and Suquamish people. To discover the ancestral lands of the indigenous people whose land you may be on, go to: https://native-land.ca/
Four Ways to Access Joy Anytime – Fuel Your Purpose and Superpower | Anna Hall
What Do You Know To Be True?
12/11/24 • 55 min
Ever wonder how to not just experience joy, but to tap into the power of joy to accelerate the impact of your superpower?
I was talking with a friend recently who shared how elusive joy feels right now.
That got me thinking about my belief that joy is not just an outcome of us using our superpower to create meaningful impact, but I also believe joy is a motivator to use our superpower.
And if it joy is elusive, does that make it harder to use our superpower, or does that mean our superpowers are getting blocked from creating joy?
So, I wanted to talk with someone who knows a lot about joy and the role it plays in our purpose and potential.
Anna Hall is a purpose guide, the founder of The Purpose Equation, and the Chief Culture and Community Officer for Front Porch, a not-for-profit organization that services the older adult population.
Anna has been studying purpose and joy for over 20 years and she is exactly the person I wanted to talk with to learn more about joy – not just as an outcome of a positive experience, but about the power that joy can give us to live into our strengths, our purpose, and our potential.
Anna even shares with us the four ways that we can access joy whenever we want it or whenever we need it.
This is a timely conversation, because yes, while there is a lot going on in the world and in our communities today. And joy is not just a counterbalance, it can be the fuel for the positive changes we want to make in our world.
In this episode, Anna answers the following questions:
- How do I find joy?
- How do you generate joy?
- How do people find joy in life?
- How to hold joy and grief at the same time?
My favorite quote from the episode: “Joy is a reflection of other people’s values.”
Lately, I’ve enjoyed asking people, “what’s sparking joy for you?” and hearing their response. What I did not know was that they we’re dropping cues as to what their values are. I should be paying more attention!
What I know to be true about the episode: I am very excited to share this episode early in the journey into better understanding the role of joy in our superpowers and our potential. Of course, Anna illuminates the topic of joy, as she is the beacon of light for purpose, meaning, and joy.
What I learned from the episode: Anna’s four ways to access joy and that synergy is the element I need to recharge my joyfuel tanks.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
- Anna’s Company: https://ThePurposeEquation.com
Music in this episode by Ian Kastner.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is a series of conversations where I speak with interesting people about their special talent or superhero power and the meaningful impact it has on others. The intention is to learn more about their experience with their superhero power, so that we can learn something about the special talent in each of us which allows us to connect more deeply with our purpose and achieve our potential.
For more info about the podcast or to check out more episodes, go to:
https://WhatDoYouKnowToBeTrue.com
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is hosted by Roger Kastner, is a production of Three Blue Pens, and is recorded on the ancestral lands of the Duwamish and Suquamish people. To discover the ancestral lands of the indigenous people whose land you may be on, go to: https://native-land.ca/
Learning Resistance and Growth | Melissa Janis | True Snacks
What Do You Know To Be True?
04/04/24 • 6 min
Resistance to learning, like resistance to change, is a matter of both the head and heart.
In this True Snacks mini-episode, Melissa Janis shares how she helps leaders recognize the need to use both and adopt learning agility as their number one competency.
She is passionate about helping the first-time manager understand the awesome responsibility they have taken on, and that learning agility will become their best friend when it comes to growth and navigating change and ambiguity.
In this episode, Melissa answers the following questions:
- How can I learn new skills as a manager?
- What does learning agility mean?
- What training should new managers have?
- Why do people resist training?
For more information about Melissa and her company: Melissa Janis Consulting: https://www.melissajanis.com/
Music in this episode created by Ian Kastner.
“True Snacks” is a series of excerpts from the "What Do You Know To Be True?" podcast. The purpose behind this series to share some of the key learning moments from the podcast.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is hosted by Roger Kastner and is a Three Blue Pens production.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is recorded on the ancestral lands of the Duwamish and Suquamish people. To discover the ancestral lands of the indigenous people whose land you may be on, go to: https://native-land.ca/
Overcome Yourself: Embrace Awareness to Thrive | Nana Gyesie
What Do You Know To Be True?
01/02/25 • 56 min
What gets in your way when trying to use your superpower?
If you are like most people I talk with, your response is, “Myself.”
Overcoming yourself requires awareness of what is holding you back from your best self. Maybe it's your programing, the negative experiences and trauma you've experienced, and our liberation comes from doing the work.
But how?
For Nana Gyesie, the answers lie in many paths, and all those paths start with mindful awareness and our innate intuitive intelligence.
Nana is a Leadership and Life Coach with INNER MILEAGE Coaching, a mindfulness teacher, a yoga instructor, a photographer, and a practicing Buddhist. Nana sees the world and his experiences through the lens of his own acceptance of things as they are, which gives him the ability to choose something different.
And since we live in a time of tumultuous and exponential change, where we are seemingly turning from one existential crisis to another, Nana believes it’s critical for our future flourishing and thriving to be able to bring our humanity forward in order to collectively address the very real challenges ahead of us.
We can create the future we want only when we have done the work of overcoming ourselves and overcoming our past, individually and collectively.
In this episode, Nana answers the following questions:
- How to accept the way things are?
- How to get out of my own away?
- How to have more awareness and mindfulness?
- What does the Buddha say about joy?
My favorite quote from the episode: “The real joy is in seeing things as they are and accepting things as they are. In accepting things as they there, there’s a realization of your power and efficacy to choose differently.”
I have never liked the word “surrender.” It feels like giving your power away. And yet, Nana suggests the opposite. That is, by accepting the way things are, (i.e., surrendering), you increase your power to choose something different.
What I know to be true about the episode: I know Nana’s wisdom does not come easily, he’s done and continues to put in the work to overcome his programing and tap into his intuitive intelligence. For that I am grateful that his superpower, purpose, and joy all lead him to share with us the knowledge and wisdom his does in this conversation.
What I learned from the episode: Besides not remembering yet how to pronounce “Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi,” (Sorry, Rick!), I really appreciate something Nana said in the episode: “When one moves away from self-judgment to compassion, one is overcoming one’s programming.”
As is often said, “the past is never in the past,” Nana suggests that self-compassion is a way for us to overcome ourselves.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
- Nana’s company: INNER MILEAGE Coaching https://www.innermileage.com/
Keywords
#Awareness #Compassion #Joy #getoutofyourownway
Music in this episode by Ian Kastner.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is a series of conversations where I speak with interesting people about their special talent or superhero power and the meaningful impact it has on others. The intention is to learn more about their experience with their superhero power, so that we can learn something about the special talent in each of us which allows us to connect more deeply with our purpose and achieve our potential.
For more info about the podcast or to check out more episodes, go to:
https://whatdoyouknowtobetrue.com/
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is hosted by Roger Kastner, is a production of Three Blue Pens, and is recorded on the ancestral lands of the Duwamish and Suquamish people. To discover the ancestral lands of the indigenous people whose land you may be on, go to: https://native-land.ca/
Create Your Community When It Doesn’t Exist | Michaela Corning | True Snacks
What Do You Know To Be True?
10/08/24 • 12 min
What do you do when you cannot find a community that serves your needs?
If you are Michaela Corning, you create it.
As an entrepreneur, an outgoing sales person, an amplifier, a woman, and a Muslim, Michaela found herself in the middle of an “intersectionality twister” game in workplaces that were not safe for her and she could not find the community that she envisioned. One that provided regenerative well-being and joy for her and other Muslim women.
So in 2021, she created Barakah Beauty Collective – the first women only salon and boutique in Seattle focused on uplifting Muslim women economically, spiritually, and physically.
***True Snacks is a bite-sized learning excerpt from the full What Do You Know To Be True? podcast episode. To watch the full episode with Michaela, go to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HO_xHrIzWM&list=PLbWfh34FP_dWsmhLMNNz6IPXanydwpH-U&index=6 ***
With love, business smarts, and a boatload of hard work and perseverance, Barakah Beauty Collective is thriving.
And she has built something that is serving the needs of Muslim and non-Muslim woman, and inspiring the next generation of Muslim girls to dream and achieve bigger.
In this episode, Michaela answers the following questions:
- How to build community?
- How to build community where one does not exist?
- What is modest fashion?
- Is it necessary to have a cat to make a video go viral?
My favorite quote from the episode: “If it’s going to focus on serving the needs of the community, then it needs to reflect the community it’s in and what they need, right? That’s a ‘duh.’”
What I know to be true about the episode: Michaela is an inspiration. She is the change she wants to see in the world.
What I learned from the episode: A good friend, Lakshmi Gopalkrishnan, just shared with me the idea that whatever you have been told that you are too much of, or too little, that thing you are “not the right amount of” is your superpower and your strength, and you need to find the place where that can shine. Michaela is proof positive of that.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
- Michaela’s Modest Fashion Company: https://michaelacorning.com/
- Barakah Beauty Collective: https://barakahbeautycollective.com/
Keywords
#Community #Community Building #How to build a community,
Music in this episode by Ian Kastner.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is a series of conversations where I speak with interesting people about their special talent or superhero power and the meaningful impact it has on others. The intention is to learn more about their experience with their superhero power, so that we can learn something about the special talent in each of us which allows us to connect more deeply with our purpose and achieve our potential.
For more info about the podcast or to check out more episodes, go to: https://whatdoyouknowtobetrue.com/
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is hosted by Roger Kastner, is a production of Three Blue Pens, and is recorded on the ancestral lands of the Duwamish and Suquamish people. To discover the ancestral lands of the indigenous people whose land you may be on, go to: https://native-land.ca/
Job Seekers: Crafting Resumes and Career Narratives with Keelan Hawkins
What Do You Know To Be True?
11/13/23 • 56 min
Writing a resume is hard for most people. OK, I’ll say it: the process sucks.
Keelan Hawkins and I recently met when she was helping me rewrite my resume, and while I thought my resume and career story was pretty good before, I can confidently say both are much better now.
Keelan not only makes the process easier, her focus is in empowering people to be better equipped to tell a clearer, more relevant career narrative and having a better resume that highlights that career narrative.
Keelan brings a thoughtful process and approach that invites the individual to explore their purpose and their impact, and to be vulnerable in understanding what is meaningful for the individual. It is from that understanding that a relevant and differentiated story can begin to be told.
In this episode, Keelan answers the following questions:
- What is the best resume advice?
- What are hiring managers looking for in a resume and interview?
- How to re-write your resume to get attention?
- Why is answering 'Why do I do what I do?' so important to your resume and career narrative?
Keelan a Master’s degree in Creative Writing and Poetry from Bowling Green State and a Master’s degree in Rhetoric and Composition from Appalachian State. It is not hard to image how poetry and rhetoric would be helpful in writing a resume and crafting a career narrative. Keelan is also a career coach, an instructor, and a writer, and in this conversation, we get to hear how this background of seemingly separate journeys weave together to create an amazingly strong and resilient tapestry that empowers and informs this work.
I’m excited to share this conversation with Keelan because she has a superhero power most of us can benefit from. Based on my experiences, anyone that can make that process easier and can help us craft a better career story, that is undoubtedly a superhero power with a meaningful impact on others.
The book mentioned in the episode: “Triggering Town” by Richard Hugo
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/67599
For those interested in hiring Keelan for career narrative consultation, you can reach out to Keelan at [email protected]
If you like the conversation, please share this episode with one other person. Thank you!
Music in this episode created by Ian Kastner.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is a series of conversations where I speak with interesting people about their special talent or superhero power and the meaningful impact it has on others. The intention is to learn more about their experience with their superhero power, and in doing so a maybe learn something about the special talent in each of us that makes us unique.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is hosted by Roger Kastner, is a production of Three Blue Pens, and is recorded on the ancestral lands of the Duwamish and Suquamish people. To discover the ancestral lands of the indigenous people whose land you may be on, go to: https://native-land.ca/
Lead with Quiet Confidence with Jennifer Marcou
What Do You Know To Be True?
12/04/23 • 56 min
Introverts can be as effective leaders as an extrovert. Introverts don't have to shout out the first answer or pound their fists on the table to be just as influential. They do this by leading with quiet confidence.
As a female leader in a male-dominated industry, Jennifer Marcou found that her natural style of working, and her gender, was not well represented in her peer group, and definitely not in the ranks above hers. She was faced with challenge of putting on a mask and leading inauthentically, or learning how to lead in a way that was authentic to her own style, to, as she says, how her brain works.
This conversation is with Jennifer Marcou and how she coaches others to Lead with Quiet Confidence.
In this episode, Jennifer answers the following questions:
- What is like to be an introvert? And what is like to be an introverted leader?
- What is the difference between introverts and extroverts?
- How to use the introverted behavior as a strength?
- What it's like to be an introvert in an extrovert world?
- How to Lead with Quiet Confidence?
In this conversation, Jennifer shares with us how she recognized how to work with and how to lead with her introversion, and how she now coaches other leaders to work with their natural styles and use those styles as an advantage, not something to cover over.
Her message, like that of others who speak on the advantages of introversion, is a great one for introverts to embrace and to embrace their introversion as nothing more than a style.
It’s also a powerful message for extroverts and ambiverts to learn so we can be better aware of what we can do differently to be more inclusive and be better partners and co-creators with everyone in the room...not just the ones who are first to speak or speak the loudest, but for those who whose voices are equally valuable, important, and worthy of being heard and being engaged in the conversation.
Resources mentioned in the episode...
Jennifer’s company, Marcou Coaching: https://www.marcoucoaching.com/
Lead with Quiet Confidence Program: https://leadwithquietconfidence.com/
Book: “Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking” by Susan Cain https://bookshop.org/p/books/quiet-the-power-of-introverts-in-a-world-that-can-t-stop-talking-susan-cain/8213418?ean=9780307352156
Book: “Playing Big: Practical Wisdom for Women Who Want to Speak Up, Create, and Lead” by Tara Mohr https://bookshop.org/p/books/playing-big-practical-wisdom-for-women-who-want-to-speak-up-create-and-lead-tara-mohr/7788504?ean=9781592409600
If you like the conversation, please share this episode with one other person. Thank you!
Music in this episode created by Ian Kastner.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is a series of conversations where I speak with interesting people about their special talent and the meaningful impact it has on others. The intention is to learn more about their experience, so that we can learn something about the special talent in each of us. For more information, go to www.WhatDoYouKnowToBeTrue.com
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is hosted by Roger Kastner, is a production of Three Blue Pens, and is recorded on the ancestral lands of the Duwamish and Suquamish people. To discover the ancestral lands of the indigenous people whose land you may be on, go to: https://native-land.ca/
Approaching DEI with Curiosity, Empathy, and Accountability [Bonus Episode with Kevin Jones]
What Do You Know To Be True?
02/05/24 • 19 min
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion is under attack today and the topic came up in my conversation with Kevin Jones. Rather than discuss the current backlash and the temporary pendulum swing of systemic oppression pushing back, Kevin and I got into the role of curiosity, empathy, and accountability in how we think of and approach the work.
This bonus episode of the "What Do You Know To Be True?" is an excerpt of the "Intentional Curiosity with Kevin Jones" episode.
Kevin and I share a sense of purpose in helping others achieve their potential. We recognize that when systems are not designed for equity, we are not able to live into our potential when others are systemically blocked from achieving theirs. In order for us to be better coaches and consultants for others, we need to engage in dismantling those barriers.
To be clear, as my friend Mark Meadows shared with me once, “all perspectives are valid and partial,” meaning that Kevin and I want to acknowledge that our views are partial, that they come from a position of privilege we did not earn, and that they are reflective of where we are at in our journeys of unlearning and relearning at this moment.
In this episode, Kevin and I try to answer the following questions:
- How can I approach DEI with curiosity?
- What is the role of a leader with DEI?
- What is the role of empathy in DEI?
- How can you act with accountability in DEI work?
Resources:
- Book: “Opening the Corporate Closet Transforming Biases to Gay Advancement in Corporate America” by Kevin Jones: https://bookshop.org/p/books/opening-the-corporate-closet-transforming-biases-to-gay-advancement-in-corporate-america-kevin-w-jones/20037562?ean=9798888964422
- Book "The Sum of Us" by Heather McGee https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-sum-of-us-what-racism-costs-everyone-and-how-we-can-prosper-together-heather-mcghee/14618549?ean=9780525509585
- Book "Inclusion on Purpose" by Ruchika Tulshyan https://bookshop.org/p/books/inclusion-on-purpose-an-intersectional-approach-to-creating-a-culture-of-belonging-at-work-ruchika-tulshyan/17170649?ean=9780262046558
- Book: "Say The Right Thing" by Kenji Yoshino and David Glasgow https://bookshop.org/p/books/say-the-right-thing-how-to-talk-about-identity-diversity-and-justice-david-glasgow/18751579?ean=9781982181383
- Book: “The Oz Principle” by Roger Connors, Craig Hickman, and Tom Smith https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-oz-principle-getting-results-through-individual-and-organizational-accountability-roger-connors/10796528?ean=9781591843481
- Song: "Invisible" by U2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajVoeX4eqIQ
We welcome your voice in this conversation and encourage you to engage with us in this discussion. Please share your thoughts in the comments section of the YouTube episode (https://youtu.be/YbRgJ5g0dl0) and we’ll see you there.
None of us alive today created the systems of inequity we live and work in today. But we have do a choice, and that’s to willfully ignore them, to actively work to change them, or to continue to try to benefit from them. This is the choice in front of us.
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Music in this episode created by Ian Kastner.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is a series of conversations where I speak with interesting people about their special talent or superhero power and the meaningful impact it has on others. For more info: https://whatdoyouknowtobetrue.com/
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is hosted by Roger Kastner, is a production of Three Blue Pens, and is recorded on the ancestral lands of the Duwamish and Suquamish people. To discover the ancestral lands of the indigenous people whose land you may be on, go to: https://native-land.ca/
Keeping the Human in Human Systems in Focus | Pay Attention with Kellee Franklin
What Do You Know To Be True?
06/05/24 • 45 min
Organization transformation, whether driven by strategy or technology imperatives, will often attempt to treat the human side of change as an afterthought or something to be managed.
And that is why most transformations fail.
Transformation and innovation consultant, Kellee Franklin, understands that most transformation efforts needs to flip the script. They are not adding humans to a technology or strategy system, they are inserting technology or strategy into human systems.
To design successful transformation, Kellee knows that it’s the human system that needs to be understood, respected, mapped, and attended to.
And the best way to do this, is to pay deep attention.
On an individual level, when everyone craves human connection and want to be seen and be heard, the most valuable and powerful thing we can give someone is our attention.
Once we’ve been able to do that, when the other person feels truly seen and heard, and you’ve being doing the seeing, what becomes possible together then?
Kellee Franklin is a consultant, a leadership development advisor, a coach, and an instructor. While she helps businesses design and implement advanced technology into their organizations, she emphasizes that those organizations as human systems. The technology has to fit inside those human systems – and not the other way around.
Kellee shares what she knows to be true after years in consulting, years advising business and technology transformations, and years teaching in the classroom. You might think from all that experience and knowledge she’s accumulated, she shares nuggets of wisdom she’s gathered along the way.
But instead, it’s how she shows up and how she attends to the people and their needs within those spaces.
In this episode, Kellee answers the following questions:
- How to give attention to someone?
- How to attend to someone’s needs?
- How to show you're paying attention?
- How to be radically present with others?
My favorite quote from the episode: “To pay attention, this is our endless and proper work.”
From the Mary Oliver poem “Yes! No!”
What I know to be true about the episode: Kellee is probably in a lot of spaces where she is the smartest person in the room, and others where she’s rubbing elbows with geniuses, but her approach to paying attention does not waver because of a deep belief in the value of each individual, what they can contribute, and what can be learned from them.
What I learned from the episode: It is further reinforcement of several threads we can pull on in these conversations where Kellee and other guests, all super-high achievers and people who enable and support highly accomplished people, highlight the powers of curiosity, empathy, and being radically present with others.
The resources shared in this episode can be found at https://whatdoyouknowtobetrue.com/video/how-to-pay-attention-to-one-another-pay-attention-with-kellee-franklin:
- Book: The Mind of the Leader by Rasmus Hougaard and Jacqueline Carter
Music in this episode created by Ian Kastner.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is a series of conversations where I speak with interesting people about their special talent or superhero power and the meaningful impact it has on others. The intention is to learn more about their experience with their superhero power, so that we can learn something about the special talent in each of us which allows us to connect more deeply with our purpose.
"What Do You Know To Be True?" is hosted by Roger Kastner, is a production of Three Blue Pens, and is recorded on the ancestral lands of the Duwamish and Suquamish people. To discover the ancestral lands of the indigenous people whose land you may be on,
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