
S3:E2 Judas and the Black Messiah, Your Honor, The Stand
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02/17/21 • 96 min
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This week we're talking about the film Judas and the Black Messiah and the finales of The Stand and Your Honor. But first, Elaine starts talking about how she went out for a ride last week and how COVID-19 numbers are down, and before ya know it, she was in a full-blown political rant. So buckle up for that. But political outrage turned out to be a perfect segue into our first topic this week.Judas and the Black Messiah (HBO Max) is the story of the life and events leading up to Black Panther Fred Hampton's death. With knockout performances by Daniel Kaluuya and LaKeith Stanfield and a supporting cast including Jesse Plemons, Martin Sheen, and one of our favorite actors from The Deuce, Dominique Fishback, Judas, and the Black Messiah is a likely shoo-in at Oscar time. The real players
We learned a lot from this film, even though we thought we knew the history. And, like we always do, after seeing a "based on a true story" movie, we dug a little deeper. Here's a side-by-side featuring the real people next to the actors who portrayed them. (see our site )What the movie doesn't tell you.
In the movie, Hampton and O'Neal are played by Kaluuya and Standfield, 31 and 29 years old. Hampton was only 21 years old at the time of his death. But, what people don't know is that William O'Neal was only 17 years old when the FBI sent him in to infiltrate the Black Panthers. We think this is important and may impact how people judge O'Neal, who took his own life on MLK day after PBS aired his interview on Eyes on the Prize.
Hampton's widow and son. Deborah Johnson gave birth shortly after Fred Hampton's death. She was 19 years old. She named the baby Alfred Johnson, but at the age of 10, changed his name to Fred Hampton jr. She changed her name to Akua Njeri.Njeri is still active in the civil rights movement today. Hampton Jr is Chairman of The Black Panther Party Cubs. As we mentioned on the show, Fred Jr has a Go Fund Me to help restore his father's childhood home. Check it out here.
We promoted The Stand so hard on this podcast. And we try hard not to steer our listeners to anything that we didn't like ourselves. So now we find ourselves in the awkward position of having to say Oooops!! We're sorry!
On the flip side, we were delighted with the Showtime limited series's finale, Your Honor. Some people are calling the finale "poetic justice." We don't exactly see it that way. Shakespearean, yes. Just, Nah! For anyone who gave a couple of episodes and gave up, we say, give it another chance. It pays off!
Got to our website for extras!
This week we're talking about the film Judas and the Black Messiah and the finales of The Stand and Your Honor. But first, Elaine starts talking about how she went out for a ride last week and how COVID-19 numbers are down, and before ya know it, she was in a full-blown political rant. So buckle up for that. But political outrage turned out to be a perfect segue into our first topic this week.Judas and the Black Messiah (HBO Max) is the story of the life and events leading up to Black Panther Fred Hampton's death. With knockout performances by Daniel Kaluuya and LaKeith Stanfield and a supporting cast including Jesse Plemons, Martin Sheen, and one of our favorite actors from The Deuce, Dominique Fishback, Judas, and the Black Messiah is a likely shoo-in at Oscar time. The real players
We learned a lot from this film, even though we thought we knew the history. And, like we always do, after seeing a "based on a true story" movie, we dug a little deeper. Here's a side-by-side featuring the real people next to the actors who portrayed them. (see our site )What the movie doesn't tell you.
In the movie, Hampton and O'Neal are played by Kaluuya and Standfield, 31 and 29 years old. Hampton was only 21 years old at the time of his death. But, what people don't know is that William O'Neal was only 17 years old when the FBI sent him in to infiltrate the Black Panthers. We think this is important and may impact how people judge O'Neal, who took his own life on MLK day after PBS aired his interview on Eyes on the Prize.
Hampton's widow and son. Deborah Johnson gave birth shortly after Fred Hampton's death. She was 19 years old. She named the baby Alfred Johnson, but at the age of 10, changed his name to Fred Hampton jr. She changed her name to Akua Njeri.Njeri is still active in the civil rights movement today. Hampton Jr is Chairman of The Black Panther Party Cubs. As we mentioned on the show, Fred Jr has a Go Fund Me to help restore his father's childhood home. Check it out here.
We promoted The Stand so hard on this podcast. And we try hard not to steer our listeners to anything that we didn't like ourselves. So now we find ourselves in the awkward position of having to say Oooops!! We're sorry!
On the flip side, we were delighted with the Showtime limited series's finale, Your Honor. Some people are calling the finale "poetic justice." We don't exactly see it that way. Shakespearean, yes. Just, Nah! For anyone who gave a couple of episodes and gave up, we say, give it another chance. It pays off!
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S3:E1 One Night in Miami, Spontaneous
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One Night in Miami (Prime Video)
Starring Kingsley Ben-Adir as Malcolm X, Eli Goree as Cassius Clay, Aldis Hodge as Jim Brown, and Leslie Odom Jr. as Sam Cooke, One Night in Miami is a fictionalized version of what happened between the four icons in a Miami hotel room on the night Cassius Clay beat Sonny Listen to become the Heavyweight Champion of the World.
One Night in Miami gets a ton of buzz as the theatrical directorial debut for Regina King. King is becoming a Hollywood powerhouse in both TV and movies in front of the camera.
We're old enough to remember her as Brenda, the little girl on the steps on 227
We've followed her career closely. From Boyz n the Hood, Jerry Maguire to American Crime, and of course Watchmen. As she builds her reputation as a director, she is proving to be a force to be reckoned with.
Spontaneous EPIX
Directed by Brian Duffield from the novel by Aaron Starmer, Spontaneous stars Katherine Langford who we last saw in Knives Out-recommended on a previous episode. The strong supporting cast includes Charlie Plummer. Rob Huebel, Piper Perabo play the parents, along with Chelah Horsdal, who we loved as Helen Smith in one of our favorites, The Man in the High Castle. Riverdale fans will recognize Hayley Law.
Much more than a teenage sci-fi story about an exploding senior class, Spontaneous is a black comedy, social commentary, love story, political statement, and coming of age nightmare. We can't recommend it highly enough.
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S3:Ep3 Nomadland, Behind Her Eyes
See our website for a ton of extras- What Are Travis and Elaine Watching?
This week we talk about Nomadland (HULU), Behind Her Eyes (Netflix), a throwback to The Knick (HBO Max.)
Behind Her Eyes
Created by Steve Lightfoot (The Punisher, Hannibal), Behind Her Eyes is a tight little thriller about a young woman involved with her married boss, who then finds herself in a friendship with his lonely, fragile wife until it's not.
It stars Simona Brown, Eve Hewson, Tom Bateman, and we neglected to talk about Robert Aramayo, who is excellent as Rob. You may know him as young Ned Stark in Game of Thrones or creepy Elmer Wayne Henley Jr. in Mindhunter. He was even in Tom Ford's Nocturnal Animals! We're sorry, Rob. We'll talk about you next week. Yes, Elaine did guest the ending... believe it not!!
Nomadland
This one is definitely an Oscar contender, along with last week's Judas and the Black Messiah. Yeah, we're getting December caliber movies in February. Thx COVID.
Zhao Ting has always used "real people" (non-actors) in her movies, which is no exception. In addition to the Oscar-worthy performances by Frances McDormand as Fern and David Strathairn as David.
Nomadland is a hard-hitting modern-day The Grapes of Wrath. Everyone should be free to live as they choose. But, until our older Americans ALL have that choice, we have failed as a nation. That said, the resilience and dignity displayed by the real-life Nomads is more than admirable,
Throwback: The Knick
One of our favorite shows in the last decade is Steven Soderbergh's, The Knick. The entire series is currently available on HBO Max.
It boasts a top-notch cast including Clive Owen-, André Holland, Juliet Rylance. And to bring it full circle, Eve Hewson (Behind Her Eyes) as the Golden Lotus Queen, Nurse Lucy Elkins.
See our website for a ton of extras- What Are Travis and Elaine Watching?
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