Web3 Galaxy Brain 🌌🧠

My guest today is Scott Sunarto. Scott is the founder of Argus Labs, a decentralized gaming company. He was contributor to Dark Forest.

On this episode, Scott joins me to discuss his Cookie Clicker Rollup, a toy L2 he built to better understand and demonstrate the architecture of optimistic rollups. We discuss optimistic and zk rollups, censorship resistance, offchain execution, sovereignty, the spectrum of EVM equivalence, and much more. If you're interested in learning more about L2 architecture from first principles, this episode is for you.

My thanks to FirstMate who provided the recording studio for today's episode. If you're creating NFTs and want to run your own branded secondary market that aggregates listings across all NFT marketplaces and enforces NFT secondary royalties, check out FirstMate at firstmate.xyz.

Links

• Guest: @smsunarto
• Hosted by @nnnnicholas
• NeverEnding Game - a16z
• OPStack Bedrock
• Starknet: What are Storage Proofs
• Verifying Ethereum Smart Contract State with Proof - Leo Zhang
• The Open Problems of Onchain Games - Charlie Noyes & Doug Feagin
• Brandon Gomes
• l2beat
• Vitalik's An Incomplete Guide to Rollups
• Vitalik's The different types of ZK-EVMs
• Pete Horne's 4th energy
• barrywhitehat
• Scott’s research day talk "How I Learned to Stop Worrying & Love Execution Sharding" Introducing World Engine by Argus
• Argus’s Agar.io game (private beta, ask Scott)

Chapters

(00:00:00) Intro (00:01:30) Interview start: Scott in Jakarta for Argus (00:03:15) A Toy L2: Cookie Clicker Rollup (00:08:00) What is an L2? (00:12:25) Sovereign rollups & fraud proofs (00:14:30) What happens when there’s a fraud proof? (00:16:40) Cascading rollbacks & bridges (00:21:10) Verifying with ZK (00:25:25) Finality and Instant finality (00:27:45) Can you verify L1 rollup state roots before the fraud proof period (00:29:45) Cookie clicker rollup: architecture (00:33:00) Nicholas attempts to make Cookie clicker clicks tradable (00:35:00) Proof systems (00:36:20) Data AvaIlability (00:38:00) Validiums and data availability committees (00:41:00) L2 Calldata posted to L1 (00:47:50) Proving systems are too opaque (00:48:00) EIP-4844 and data availability (00:50:00) Cost of proving should be public (00:52:40) Cookie clicker block step by step (00:57:40) What happens in a Fraud Proof? (01:01:00) L1 trapdoor forcing rollback of soft confirmed L2 txs (01:03:00) Red Team: Hypothetical attacks on L2s (and dapps) today (01:06:40) Cookie clicker’s fraud proof (01:09:30) Gas attacks on fraud proofs and Interactive verification game (01:11:20) Single shot fraud proof (01:17:55) Specialized settlement layer L1 could support gasless fraud proofing to enable Single shot fraud proofing (01:19:45) L2 Specificity: EVM Equivalence vs Prover performance spectrum (01:25:00) Argus’s World Engine Game Shards (01:30:00) World Engine is like a shared sequencer — multiple execution layers share one sequencer (01:36:30) Argus is building game engine and games (01:40:40) World Engine game UX: embedded chain native AA wallets (01:43:40) Realtime interaction AA Bundler signature batching (01:46:45) L2 gaming scene: Argus, 0xParc Autonomous Worlds, and Lattice (01:49:30) Try today: Primodium, SkyStrife (01:50:35) Outro

Farcaster Frames are an exciting new feature of the Farcaster protocol that let developers quickly build mini apps with a few lines of code. Frames extend the OpenGraph meta tags, which are typically used to serve rich media embeds when pasting a link. Frames add interactive buttons which, when clicked inside of a compatible Farcaster client like Warpcast or Supercast, let the server know which Farcaster user clicked the button. The Frame's image can be updated in response. In short, developers can build polls, NFT claims, airdrop slot machines, games, and more, all with the very simple primitives provided by Frames.

On today's show, I'm joined by some of the first developers building Farcaster Frames. My guests today are Cassie Heart, Farcaster dev and founder of Quilibrium, Christopher Wallace, founder of Unofficial, and Jacopo Ranalli, founder of Deframe and Slice. We discuss the technical mechanisms and product possibilities for Frames, and the guests field questions from members of the community. This episode was recorded on February 2, 2024.

If you're interested in Farcaster Frames, consumer crypto UX, open web standards, and exciting moments in social software design, this episode is for you. I hope you enjoy the show.

As always, this show is provided as entertainment and does not constitute legal, financial, or tax advice or any form of endorsement or suggestion. Crypto has risks and you alone are responsible for doing your research and making your own decisions.

Links

• Hosted by @nicholas
• Farcaster Frames Docs
• Farcaster dev resources
• Varun's youtube explainers
• Farcaster stats
• Neynar
• Cassie's Doom Frame
• Christopher's Cookie Frame
• Jacopo's Frame NFT

Today, I'm joined by Gami. Gami is a crypto creator and the founder of GnarsDAO, the skateboarding-centric nounish community.

Gami is one of a small number of practitioners in an emerging discipline that I call "crypto production." Gami led the creation of several onchain happenings, including GnarsDAO, a DAO dedicated to onboarding skaters to Web3, Forgeries, a nounish open edition and onchain Noun raffle, as well as an arts patronage dao, an onchain tontine, and much more.

In this episode, Gami and I discuss his creative practice, and how he manages to be so prolific. We discuss his positive sum philosophy, his belief that crypto is a counter cultural movement, and his collaborative working relationships with Iain Nash, Volkey, and 0xlght.

It was great getting a chance to chat with Gami, who is doing fascinating work summoning onchain happenings with social media and the blockchain. His perspectives on leadership were particularly surprising and exciting. I learned a lot from Gami in this call. I hope you enjoy the show.

As always, this show is provided as entertainment and does not constitute legal, financial, or tax advice or any form of endorsement or suggestion. Crypto has risks and you alone are responsible for doing your research and making your own decisions.

Links

• Gami.wtf
• GnarsDAO
• Omega Build
• Hypercommons
• Tings
• Tontine
• Art Haus
• That's Gnarly
• Nouns HD
• Forgeries team on Def.Crypto (Youtube)
• Hyperstructures
• Embryonic
• Lght on Mirror

Chapters

(00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:32) Welcome Gami (00:04:30) Gami's origins (00:10:02) Online events that bring people together (00:13:00) "Everything is about context" (00:15:05) Crypto facilitates social interactions because onchain activity is verifiable kinship (00:18:00) Embracing transient events in an immutable medium (00:19:49) Hyperrealism: High fidelity representations are nevertheless representations; blockchains are one medium for recording history (00:24:15) Forgeries: Working with Iain Nash, Emre, Jordan and others (00:29:16) Raffle protocol omega.build (00:31:20) Open edition sketching, minimum viable ideas, Jack Butcher (00:34:30) How GnarsDAO got its start (00:36:30) Volkey (00:37:30) How to find collaborators (00:39:35) Hypercommons: Positive sum world (00:47:15) Branding, "SubDAOs," and the relationship between genesis DAOs and their offspring (00:51:28) Gnars, skating, and its brand (00:53:20) Shademark (00:56:35) How do you design projects so you can be prolific without becoming burdened with too much accumulated responsibility over time? (01:00:00) TimShel collaboration (01:02:40) Distributed data systems (01:04:46) Derek Sivers' video: Lessons in Leadership. The first follower is the CEO. (01:06:45) Domain names, ENS, and new ideas (01:10:15) Change in Gami's style after discovering Nouns. Lower fidelity artwork is easier to remix (01:12:00) Always leaning into creating (01:14:00) Private twitter, Twemex, Nicholas's twitter extension ideas (01:18:00) Reserved issuance in Nounish DAOs (01:21:00) Nouns HD on Zora and Base (01:24:40) Crypto producers inspire and relinquish ownership (01:27:00) 0xLght; Crypto as a countercultural movement (01:31:32) Limitations of the Twitter Algorithm hinder tweet engagement and reach (01:32:37) Algorithms vs curation, and freedom (01:39:08) Curating and letting go (01:45:15) Deviating from the original idea: That's Gnarly, a platform for extreme athletes (01:51:04) Gnars' values

In this episode I’m joined by GUN founder Mark Nadal to discuss GUN.

GUN, also known as GUNDB, is a real-time, decentralized, offline-first, graph database. In practice, GUN provides a Javascript API that allows webapps to sync data between peers with no centralized server dependency. GUN peers use WebRTC and similar transport protocols to sync data to localStorage and IndexedDB in the client. GUN also provides access controls, which allow developers to store encrypted data on the network. The API can be used in browser tabs, on mobile apps, or run as a relay peer in a NodeJS process on a cloud instance.

In this conversation, GUN’s founding engineer Mark Nadal and I dive into the technical details to explain what makes GUN different from IPFS, WebRTC, and blockchains, and why so many devs are excited about GUN. I hope you enjoy the show.

Topics Discussed

· GUN in 100 seconds Youtube Video
· Learn Cryptography in seven 1-minute videos
· NERFs for photogrammetry
· GUN for Metaverses
· Comparison to IPFS
· WebRTC, Gun Relays
· Every Gun peer runs a WebRTC signalling peer
· A GUN Instagram competitor by an early Bitcoin dev iris.to
· Project built with GUN

Today I’m joined by Jonah Erlich and Ittai Svidler, cofounders of Den.

Building on their experience coordinating multisig transaction signing in ConsitutionDAO, Jonah and Ittai are creating a suite of tools for operational multisig teams to create, track, and execute Gnosis Safe transactions.

At the time of recording, Den comprises a webapp interface for building and annotating multisig transactions. Den also maintains Discord, Telegram, and SMS bots that can notify teams of pending transactions at regular intervals.

In this episode we talk about the past, present, and future of onchain coordination. I hope you enjoy the show.

Topics Discussed

• Operational teams need multisig coordination tooling
• ConstitutionDAO
• Gnosis Safe, SafeDAO, Zodiac
• Building on top of Safe
• Den today: Reading and signing multisig transactions
• Den tomorrow: Constructing multisig transactions
• DAO Ops role: staff engineers that are facilitating DAO operations