We think we know how to give pentest clients what they really need

It’s not just penetration testing, just like today’s guest is not just an offensive security pro.

If you’re the ambitious type who’s always up for new challenges, then you’re most likely going to resonate with today’s guest and his approach.

Experienced penetration tester and Volkis co-founder, Alexei Doudkine joins us in the second episode of the podcast to debunk pentesting misconceptions.

With 10+ years of offensive security experience under his belt and his learnings as a business owner, Alexei challenges the status quo to get other hackers to walk a mile in their clients' shoes.

You’ll also hear Alexei unpack the skills and mindset it takes to deliver quality in penetration testing and become a better ethical hacker. Some of these ideas may make you uncomfortable - and that’s why we believe they’re worth listening to.

Whether it’s about absorbing technical complexities like a sponge or developing an intuitive perception of vulnerabilities, this conversation highlights the aspects of penetration testing that make it a true craft.

So, come along with us on We think we know, as we unpack the layers and narratives shaping offensive security work.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why it’s not about data, but how you use it and the human impact behind it. [12:24]
• What it takes to develop your hacker intuition that tells you there’s something there - even before you have proof [15:25]
• Why automation is not the problem, but using it as a standard checkbox in your engagements is [19:00]
• How to use learning to also stay humble, rooted in the here and now [27:30]
• Why it’s worth prioritizing people over security testing during tougher economic times [44:45]
• The perks of being uncomfortable, hungry for learning, and doing your best work [49:20]

By the end of this episode, you'll look at your work - and the infosec community - with fresh eyes.

Resources from this episode:

• Alexei on Linkedin
• Alexei’s hacker origin story on the Volkis blog
• Alexei on the Cyber Empathy podcast - Ep. 5, Season 1
• The Volkis Independence Policy

Listen to this episode on:

• Spotify
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