Bloody, Brutal and Barbaric? Ep.1 Introduction and Slaughtering Children
01/19/23 • 40 min
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Summary
In our inaugural episode, we give an overview of some of the biblical texts that talk about the slaughter of innocents and war rape that rightly cause us such ethical discomfort. Pushing through the awkwardness of never having done this before, we talk about what we hope to gain from reading this book and give an overview of the authors’ arguments, and talk about how hard questions sometimes emerge from deeper faith, and not skepticism. We also consider how we picture war, both ancient and modern, and consider to what degree Hollywood has affected our perceptions.
Show Notes
1) Our thanks and appreciation to our partners:
This podcast is a production of the Centre for the Study of Bible and Violence.
https://www.csbvbristol.org.uk/
Podcast cover art by Studio of Broken Things
https://www.facebook.com/ISA4048
Intro music "Br1ghter" by Tape Machines, Le June, Nbhd Nick
2) Webb and Oeste’s list of troubling texts (p. 25 n. 1):
Genocide:
Num 21:2-3
Deut 2:34; 3:6; 7:2; 13:15; 20:16-17
Josh 6:21
1 Sam 15:3
War rape:
Num 31:17-18, 25
Deut 21:10-14
3) Also referenced in this episode were the stories in Joshua of Rahab (Josh. 2) and the Gibeonites (Josh. 9-10).
4) On the issue of whether there’s an angry God of the Old Testament, and a reformed, loving God in the New Testament, there are a number of good resources, such as the book by CSBV’s director Dr Helen Paynter, God of Violence Yesterday, God of Love Today?
https://www.amazon.ca/God-Violence-Yesterday-Love-Today/dp/1532691033
Summary
In our inaugural episode, we give an overview of some of the biblical texts that talk about the slaughter of innocents and war rape that rightly cause us such ethical discomfort. Pushing through the awkwardness of never having done this before, we talk about what we hope to gain from reading this book and give an overview of the authors’ arguments, and talk about how hard questions sometimes emerge from deeper faith, and not skepticism. We also consider how we picture war, both ancient and modern, and consider to what degree Hollywood has affected our perceptions.
Show Notes
1) Our thanks and appreciation to our partners:
This podcast is a production of the Centre for the Study of Bible and Violence.
https://www.csbvbristol.org.uk/
Podcast cover art by Studio of Broken Things
https://www.facebook.com/ISA4048
Intro music "Br1ghter" by Tape Machines, Le June, Nbhd Nick
2) Webb and Oeste’s list of troubling texts (p. 25 n. 1):
Genocide:
Num 21:2-3
Deut 2:34; 3:6; 7:2; 13:15; 20:16-17
Josh 6:21
1 Sam 15:3
War rape:
Num 31:17-18, 25
Deut 21:10-14
3) Also referenced in this episode were the stories in Joshua of Rahab (Josh. 2) and the Gibeonites (Josh. 9-10).
4) On the issue of whether there’s an angry God of the Old Testament, and a reformed, loving God in the New Testament, there are a number of good resources, such as the book by CSBV’s director Dr Helen Paynter, God of Violence Yesterday, God of Love Today?
https://www.amazon.ca/God-Violence-Yesterday-Love-Today/dp/1532691033
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Bloody, Brutal and Barbaric? Ep.2 Traditional Answers and Reading Redemptively Part One
Summary
With less awkwardness and a little more laughter, we talk about chapters 2-4 of Bloody, Brutal, and Barbaric. We think about the trouble with traditional answers to the Canaanite conquest and the importance of perspective. Patterns in scripture, such as the concern for sacred space and literal and figurative Canaanites, help to provide a framework for a redemptive reading of scripture. We also have good conversations about our perspectives of God, and where they might be insufficient.
Notes
1) This is a condensed version of Louie Giglio’s “all creation worships” sermon that Kate mentioned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=helxFeG-0n0
2) CSBV director Dr Helen Paynter’s article on Jesus’ victory over evil paralleling Israel’s victory over the Canaanites:
Paynter, Helen. “Matthew’s Gadarene Swine and the Conquest of Jericho: An Intertextual Reading.” Pacific Journal of Theological Research 14, no. 2 (2019): 13-24.
3) Our thanks and appreciation to our partners:
This podcast is a production of the Centre for the Study of Bible and Violence.
https://www.csbvbristol.org.uk/
Podcast cover art by Studio of Broken Things
https://www.facebook.com/ISA4048
Intro music "Br1ghter" by Tape Machines, Le June, Nbhd Nick
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