Unholy: Two Jews on the News

As the war rages on despite the death of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar, the world watches with mounting concern for Northern Gaza - and waits for Israel's response to Iran's missile attack earlier this month. Plus: ahead of the Hebrew anniversary of October 7, 2023, we turn to a man uniquely able to put the events of the last year in their historical context - Sir Simon Schama.

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As a veteran of Israel's security establishment, a former defence minister with roots on the Israeli right, says Israel is engaged in "ethnic cleansing" in Gaza, there's renewed talk of a deal to secure a hostage release and ceasefire before Donald Trump takes office in January. Yonit and Jonathan discuss all that - and they speak with Yael Alexander, whose son Edan is still held captive and was this week shown alive in a video released by Hamas. There's a bulging list of chutzpah nominees, stretching from Rumania to New Jersey, and big news about Unholy itself - with a chance for listeners to join the Unholy family.

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After a week in which Israelis held their breath, waiting for a potentially lethal response from both Hezbollah and Tehran to last week's assassinations, Yonit and Jonathan talk to Suzanne Maloney, one of America's foremost analysts of Iran: how do the country's leaders see their confrontation with Israel playing out now and in the future? Plus, as the war in Gaza enters its 11th month, the wait for a hostage release grows ever more desperate; how the Jewish factor might have played a role in Kamala Harris's choice of running mate - and riots in the UK stir thousand year old memories.

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The International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for Israel’s current Prime Minister and a former Defence Minister, adding yet another layer of complexity to an already fraught geopolitical landscape. Meanwhile, speculation grows about a potential ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah, aimed at bringing a fragile quiet to the north.

Yonit and Jonathan are also joined by two widely admired journalists: Thomas L. Friedman of The New York Times, who says the second Trump presidency could spell either opportunity or disaster for Israel, and Ilana Dayan of Israel's Channel 12, who gives an exclusive, English-language reading of a landmark speech she delivered last week at the Weizmann Institute to huge acclaim.

Plus: this week’s mensch award nominee is brave - and the chutzpah award is fruity.

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As Joe Biden withholds a crucial arms shipment, Yonit and Jonathan discuss a new low in Israel’s relationship with its most important ally. They talk to Israel’s foremost Hamas watcher, Dr. Michael Milshtein, about Rafah, the ceasefire that never was and who - if anyone - will be able to claim victory when the fighting finally stops. Plus: Eurovision - and a chutzpah award winner who really needs to read more.

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