Underground Strategy
Underground Strategy
Welcome to Underground Strategy
Where military tactics, leadership, and real-world strategies meet a whole lot of banter. Hosted by Max Lauker (ex-Swedish Special Operations, Intelligence, and Private Security) and Tony Garcia (ex-SANDF with extensive field experience and academic insight), we break down the latest in military strategy while keeping things real, candid, and fun.
Whether you're into the latest military insights or just here for smart conversations (and a few laughs), we've got you covered.
Tune in for weekly episodes packed with expert breakdowns, candid chats, and a fresh take on what's happening in the world of strategy.
It's all about staying sharp, having fun, and thinking a few moves ahead.
No fluff, just real talk.
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Top 10 Underground Strategy Episodes
Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best Underground Strategy episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to Underground Strategy for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite Underground Strategy episode by adding your comments to the episode page.
The Home Front in Ukraine with Kostiantyn Koshelenko
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09/29/24 • 20 min
Episode 5: The Home Front in Ukraine with Kostiantyn Koshelenko
In this episode of Underground Strategy, we are honored to be joined by Kostiantyn Koshelenko, Ukraine’s Deputy Minister of Social Policy and Digital Transformation. Kostia shares valuable insights into his role on the Home Front, offering a unique perspective on how Ukraine is navigating the challenges of war from both a governmental and digital standpoint.
Kostia shares his thoughts on leadership, how digital transformation is shaping Ukraine’s efforts during the war, and the ways both the government and private sectors are tackling the immense challenges they’re facing together.
You can explore more about Kostia’s experiences and strategies in his book:
Management in Times of War: Leadership Examples from Ukraine’s Government and Private Sector – Available on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Management-Times-War-Kostiantyn-Koshelenko/dp/6177982103
Connect with Kostiantyn Koshelenko:
Ministry of Social Policy of Ukraine | LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kostiantyn-koshelenko
Kostiantyn Koshelenko on X:
https://twitter.com/k_koshelenko
Kostiantyn Koshelenko on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/k_koshelenko
Ukrainian Resources:
Digital Ukraine:
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Military Legends
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09/14/24 • 23 min
This week on Underground Strategy, we’re kicking back and talking military legends. From frozen battlefields in Finland to the revolutionary jungles of Latin America, Max and Tony break down the names that stick—and the stories that made them legendary.
Who made the cut?
-Harry Järv: Winter War veteran and writer who fought in Finland’s toughest battles.
-Erik Bonde: The Swedish officer whose legacy still echoes from the Congo.
-Che Guevara: Revolutionary icon—beyond the T-shirts.
-Koos De la Rey: Boer War general, brilliant tactician, and a man of his time.
Will there be some singing? Maybe. Will you learn something? Absolutely.
No fluff. Just real talk about the people who shaped history.
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Private Military Companies
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10/13/24 • 26 min
Episode 9: Private Military Companies (PMCs) – A General Discussion
In this episode of Underground Strategy, Max Lauker and Tony Garcia take a closer look at Private Military Companies (PMCs). PMCs are organizations that provide military services, from logistical support to armed security, and they've become an increasingly significant part of modern warfare.
Max and Tony discuss the growing role of PMCs in global conflicts, their advantages, and the controversies surrounding them. While not diving too deep into the specifics, they explore how these companies operate, their impact on traditional military forces, and what makes them so integral to modern operations.
If you've ever been curious about the role PMCs play in today's military landscape, this episode gives you a broad overview.
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Winter Warfare—Survival, Strategy, and Snow
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10/06/24 • 29 min
Episode 7: Winter Warfare—Survival, Strategy, and Snow
In this week’s episode of the Underground Strategy podcast, we’re getting chilly as we scrape the surface of winter warfare. From personal reflections to historical examples, we touch on what makes this topic so timely and important. We’re not going all crazy in-depth, but we’re here to give you a glimpse into the challenges and strategies that come with fighting in extreme cold conditions.
Will Max manage to get the name of the new NATO Secretary General right this time? Tune in to find out!
What’s in this episode?
We talk through some of the key points of winter warfare—how it affects both the troops and their equipment. Expect some historical throwbacks, too, like how armies through the ages have adapted to snow and ice.
Whether you’re prepping for a winter deployment (or just a cold day), this episode has something for everyone. Grab your hot chocolate and settle in!
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/who_is_who_229125.htm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Claesson
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Extra Episode: The Book is Finally Here!
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10/05/24 • 15 min
Extra Episode: The Book is Finally Here!
It’s not just any episode—this is a special edition of the Underground Strategy podcast, and it’s all about our new book! We know, we know, you’ve heard us talk about it before, but now you can actually get your hands on it. And what better way to celebrate than with a quick chat about it!
Oh, and if you're looking for a good laugh and a good read, you can grab the book on Amazon. We've got links below:
Grab your copy here:
Amazon US: https://a.co/d/d9F1SBv
Amazon UK: https://amzn.eu/d/7HILRpw
We promise it’s worth it—just for the stories we couldn't fit into the podcast!
And for our dedicated listeners, since this is an extra episode, you’ll still get your regular dose of Underground Strategy every Sunday. This one's just a bonus!
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Weaponry Deep Dive with Vapenkunskap (Weapons Knowledge)
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09/22/24 • 25 min
Episode 4: Weaponry Deep Dive with Vapenkunskap (Weapons Knowledge)
In this episode, we go full nerd with Vapenkunskap (Weapons Knowledge), diving deep into the details of weaponry. From the legendary Kalashnikov to cutting-edge developments, this conversation takes us across the globe as we explore the world of firearms and tactics.
Check out Vapenkunskap’s brilliant insights on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vapenkunskap/
We also touch on some key topics, including:
- The Kalashnikov: Learn more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
- Sweden’s AK 5 D: Featured on the cover of Max’s book Number 788: My Experiences in Swedish Special Operations: https://www.helion.co.uk/military-history-books/number-788-my-experiences-in-swedish-special-operations-preparing-for-nato-and-the-war-on-terror.php
- The development of the AK 5: Read more about Sweden’s standard assault rifle here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatkarbin_5
- Green ammunition: A fascinating discussion on environmentally friendly ammo: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_bullet
- Green soldiering in South Africa: Tony reflects on the country’s green approach to soldiering: http://www.enviropaedia.com/topic/default.php?topic_id=128
And last but not least, don’t be like Max and Tony—read the manual before all else fails. As recommended by Vapenkunskap, check out the Swedish Mauser manual here: http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/FIREARMS/swede_m38-m41b-m96.pdf
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The Lives and Narratives of POWs with Karen Horn
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11/17/24 • 22 min
In this edition of Underground Strategy, Max Lauker and Tony Garcia welcome historian Karen Horn, who brings her extensive research on prisoners of war (POWs) to the podcast. Karen shares insights from her books, In Enemy Hands and Prisoners of Jan Smuts, exploring the lives and experiences of POWs from WWII. Through her detailed research and personal interviews, Karen uncovers stories that reveal both the resilience and humanity of those who endured captivity.
During this engaging conversation, Karen discusses her unique approach to historical writing, focusing on the stories of individuals to convey the larger experience of POWs. She shares some memorable anecdotes from her interviews, reflecting on the humor, resilience, and challenges that POWs expressed during her research. From Italian POWs in South Africa to South Africans captured by the Germans, Karen’s work offers a rich look at the human element of wartime.
As POWs remain a constant through centuries of conflict, Karen’s stories resonate in today’s context, reminding us of the enduring complexities of war. We look forward to having her back.
Karen's books are available in South Africa in all good book stores, and abroad at:
Prisoners of Jan Smuts: https://amzn.eu/d/2zaQO9M
In Enemy Hands: In Enemy Hands: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1868426513
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Military Logistics
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10/20/24 • 29 min
Episode 9: Military Logistics – The Backbone of Warfare
In this episode of Underground Strategy, Max Lauker and Tony Garcia take a deep dive into one of the most critical, yet often overlooked, aspects of military success: logistics. As the saying goes, "Amateurs talk tactics, but professionals talk logistics." Throughout history, the ability to keep armies supplied has been the difference between victory and defeat.
Max and Tony explore the importance of logistics in warfare, drawing on historical examples from Napoleon's disastrous Russian campaign to the logistical challenges that crippled the German forces in North Africa during World War II. They discuss how even the most brilliant strategies can falter without a well-organized supply chain, and how logistics continues to play a pivotal role in modern military operations.
Join Max and Tony, in the rear with the gear, as they highlight the unsung hero of military success and give listeners a fresh perspective on the true importance of logistics in warfare.
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War and Peace with Peter de Clercq
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10/27/24 • 40 min
Episode 10: War and Peace with Peter de Clercq
In this episode of Underground Strategy, we had the honor of hosting Peter de Clercq, a Dutch diplomat who has spent over 35 years working at the highest levels of the United Nations, including as Deputy Special Representative of the Secretary-General for the United Nations Assistance Mission in Somalia (UNSOM). His extensive experience includes working in conflict-affected countries such as Somalia, Sudan, and Haiti, where he has dedicated his career to improving conditions for the most vulnerable populations.
Although Peter is formally retired from his UN roles, he remains deeply involved in promoting inclusion, rights, and opportunities for those impacted by war. In this episode, Peter shares his insights into leadership, peacebuilding, and the challenges the UN faces in war-torn regions.
We discuss how diplomacy plays a crucial role in creating the conditions for peace during violent conflict and rebuilding societies afterward. It was a great conversation, and we’re looking forward to welcoming Peter back for a follow-up episode.
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Limited Series Behind the Book: Number 788 - Unsanctioned Missions, EP 3
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11/14/24 • 22 min
Welcome to Episode 3 of our limited series on Number 788, hosted and produced by South African media figure Desmond Latham. Known for his History of South Africa podcast, Desmond brings his deep experience and sharp perspective to this series, guiding listeners through the pivotal events that shaped Max Lauker’s journey into Swedish special operations.
In this episode, Desmond and Max dive into the transition from intense training to high-stakes operations, revealing some of the unorthodox, unsanctioned missions that came Max’s way. Max recounts his time in the UK for close-protection training, where he found himself unexpectedly assigned as security detail for a Russian oligarch—complete with food-tasting duties to safeguard against potential poisoning. It’s a unique look at the blend of humor and tension that marked the early years of his career.
Moving on to Latin America, Max describes his initial assignments in Panama, where he was tasked with preparing for future operations and forging local and international connections. Desmond’s insightful questions help unravel the complexities of conducting off-the-books missions abroad, from extractions in Venezuela to joint operations with Colombian forces. These experiences gave Max a foundation in adaptable, real-world tactics, shaping the way he approached later sanctioned missions.
The episode wraps up with a discussion of the political dynamics behind Sweden’s special operations. Desmond and Max discuss the significance of Sweden’s proactive role during the Balkans deployment, a pivotal assignment that strengthened Sweden’s credibility within NATO-aligned intelligence circles and set the stage for a strategic shift in their operations.
In the next episode, Max will delve deeper into his boots-on-the-ground experiences in the Balkans, leading into deployments in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Links:
Desmond Latham’s Blog: https://desmondlatham.blog/
History of South Africa Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2uDa0tQjGe3GpFKDGjMMAm?si=2d2812af232742da
Number 788 on Amazon: https://a.co/d/is4FcIx
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FAQ
How many episodes does Underground Strategy have?
Underground Strategy currently has 25 episodes available.
What topics does Underground Strategy cover?
The podcast is about Security, Leadership, Podcasts, Business, Combat, Military History and Government.
What is the most popular episode on Underground Strategy?
The episode title 'Winter Warfare—Survival, Strategy, and Snow' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on Underground Strategy?
The average episode length on Underground Strategy is 28 minutes.
How often are episodes of Underground Strategy released?
Episodes of Underground Strategy are typically released every 3 days, 23 hours.
When was the first episode of Underground Strategy?
The first episode of Underground Strategy was released on Sep 8, 2024.
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