Underground Strategy
Underground Strategy
Welcome to Underground Strategy
Where military tactics, leadership, and real-world strategies meet a whole lot of banter. Hosted by Max Lauker (ex-Swedish Special Operations, Intelligence, and Private Security) and Tony Garcia (ex-SANDF with extensive field experience and academic insight), we break down the latest in military strategy while keeping things real, candid, and fun.
Whether you're into the latest military insights or just here for smart conversations (and a few laughs), we've got you covered.
Tune in for weekly episodes packed with expert breakdowns, candid chats, and a fresh take on what's happening in the world of strategy.
It's all about staying sharp, having fun, and thinking a few moves ahead.
No fluff, just real talk.
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Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best Underground Strategy episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to Underground Strategy for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite Underground Strategy episode by adding your comments to the episode page.
Limited Series Behind the Book: Number 788 - Unsanctioned Missions, EP 3
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11/14/24 • 22 min
Welcome to Episode 3 of our limited series on Number 788, hosted and produced by South African media figure Desmond Latham. Known for his History of South Africa podcast, Desmond brings his deep experience and sharp perspective to this series, guiding listeners through the pivotal events that shaped Max Lauker’s journey into Swedish special operations.
In this episode, Desmond and Max dive into the transition from intense training to high-stakes operations, revealing some of the unorthodox, unsanctioned missions that came Max’s way. Max recounts his time in the UK for close-protection training, where he found himself unexpectedly assigned as security detail for a Russian oligarch—complete with food-tasting duties to safeguard against potential poisoning. It’s a unique look at the blend of humor and tension that marked the early years of his career.
Moving on to Latin America, Max describes his initial assignments in Panama, where he was tasked with preparing for future operations and forging local and international connections. Desmond’s insightful questions help unravel the complexities of conducting off-the-books missions abroad, from extractions in Venezuela to joint operations with Colombian forces. These experiences gave Max a foundation in adaptable, real-world tactics, shaping the way he approached later sanctioned missions.
The episode wraps up with a discussion of the political dynamics behind Sweden’s special operations. Desmond and Max discuss the significance of Sweden’s proactive role during the Balkans deployment, a pivotal assignment that strengthened Sweden’s credibility within NATO-aligned intelligence circles and set the stage for a strategic shift in their operations.
In the next episode, Max will delve deeper into his boots-on-the-ground experiences in the Balkans, leading into deployments in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Links:
Desmond Latham’s Blog: https://desmondlatham.blog/
History of South Africa Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2uDa0tQjGe3GpFKDGjMMAm?si=2d2812af232742da
Number 788 on Amazon: https://a.co/d/is4FcIx
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The Home Front in Ukraine with Kostiantyn Koshelenko
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09/29/24 • 20 min
Episode 5: The Home Front in Ukraine with Kostiantyn Koshelenko
In this episode of Underground Strategy, we are honored to be joined by Kostiantyn Koshelenko, Ukraine’s Deputy Minister of Social Policy and Digital Transformation. Kostia shares valuable insights into his role on the Home Front, offering a unique perspective on how Ukraine is navigating the challenges of war from both a governmental and digital standpoint.
Kostia shares his thoughts on leadership, how digital transformation is shaping Ukraine’s efforts during the war, and the ways both the government and private sectors are tackling the immense challenges they’re facing together.
You can explore more about Kostia’s experiences and strategies in his book:
Management in Times of War: Leadership Examples from Ukraine’s Government and Private Sector – Available on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Management-Times-War-Kostiantyn-Koshelenko/dp/6177982103
Connect with Kostiantyn Koshelenko:
Ministry of Social Policy of Ukraine | LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kostiantyn-koshelenko
Kostiantyn Koshelenko on X:
https://twitter.com/k_koshelenko
Kostiantyn Koshelenko on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/k_koshelenko
Ukrainian Resources:
Digital Ukraine:
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Military Legends
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09/14/24 • 23 min
In this episode of Underground Strategy, we’re just kicking back and chatting about some of the military “legends” who’ve captured our attention. From the frozen fields of Finland to the revolutionary jungles of Latin America, we cover a few names you might know—and maybe one or two you don’t. Plus, will there be some singing involved? Tune in to find out.
Legends We Talk About:
Harry Järv – A Finnish-Swedish military officer who fought in the Winter War and Continuation War. He’s also a writer, which makes him pretty cool in our book.
Erik Bonde – Swedish officer known for his time in the Congo during the UN operations in the 1960s. We dive into his iconic photo and what made his legacy stick.
Che Guevara – Yeah, you know the guy. Revolutionary icon, guerrilla leader. We’ve all seen the T-shirts, but we talk a bit about his actual military career.
Koos De la Rey – A Boer general from the Second Boer War. Some call him one of the best military minds of his time, but we’re just here to shoot the breeze about what made him a legend.
New episodes drop every Sunday. No fluff, just two guys talking about the past, present, and sometimes singing.
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Private Military Companies
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10/13/24 • 26 min
Episode 9: Private Military Companies (PMCs) – A General Discussion
In this episode of Underground Strategy, Max Lauker and Tony Garcia take a closer look at Private Military Companies (PMCs). PMCs are organizations that provide military services, from logistical support to armed security, and they've become an increasingly significant part of modern warfare.
Max and Tony discuss the growing role of PMCs in global conflicts, their advantages, and the controversies surrounding them. While not diving too deep into the specifics, they explore how these companies operate, their impact on traditional military forces, and what makes them so integral to modern operations.
If you've ever been curious about the role PMCs play in today's military landscape, this episode gives you a broad overview.
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Winter Warfare—Survival, Strategy, and Snow
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10/06/24 • 29 min
Episode 7: Winter Warfare—Survival, Strategy, and Snow
In this week’s episode of the Underground Strategy podcast, we’re getting chilly as we scrape the surface of winter warfare. From personal reflections to historical examples, we touch on what makes this topic so timely and important. We’re not going all crazy in-depth, but we’re here to give you a glimpse into the challenges and strategies that come with fighting in extreme cold conditions.
Will Max manage to get the name of the new NATO Secretary General right this time? Tune in to find out!
What’s in this episode?
We talk through some of the key points of winter warfare—how it affects both the troops and their equipment. Expect some historical throwbacks, too, like how armies through the ages have adapted to snow and ice.
Whether you’re prepping for a winter deployment (or just a cold day), this episode has something for everyone. Grab your hot chocolate and settle in!
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/who_is_who_229125.htm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Claesson
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Extra Episode: The Book is Finally Here!
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10/05/24 • 15 min
Extra Episode: The Book is Finally Here!
It’s not just any episode—this is a special edition of the Underground Strategy podcast, and it’s all about our new book! We know, we know, you’ve heard us talk about it before, but now you can actually get your hands on it. And what better way to celebrate than with a quick chat about it!
Oh, and if you're looking for a good laugh and a good read, you can grab the book on Amazon. We've got links below:
Grab your copy here:
Amazon US: https://a.co/d/d9F1SBv
Amazon UK: https://amzn.eu/d/7HILRpw
We promise it’s worth it—just for the stories we couldn't fit into the podcast!
And for our dedicated listeners, since this is an extra episode, you’ll still get your regular dose of Underground Strategy every Sunday. This one's just a bonus!
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Weaponry Deep Dive with Vapenkunskap (Weapons Knowledge)
Underground Strategy
09/22/24 • 25 min
Episode 4: Weaponry Deep Dive with Vapenkunskap (Weapons Knowledge)
In this episode, we go full nerd with Vapenkunskap (Weapons Knowledge), diving deep into the details of weaponry. From the legendary Kalashnikov to cutting-edge developments, this conversation takes us across the globe as we explore the world of firearms and tactics.
Check out Vapenkunskap’s brilliant insights on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vapenkunskap/
We also touch on some key topics, including:
- The Kalashnikov: Learn more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
- Sweden’s AK 5 D: Featured on the cover of Max’s book Number 788: My Experiences in Swedish Special Operations: https://www.helion.co.uk/military-history-books/number-788-my-experiences-in-swedish-special-operations-preparing-for-nato-and-the-war-on-terror.php
- The development of the AK 5: Read more about Sweden’s standard assault rifle here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatkarbin_5
- Green ammunition: A fascinating discussion on environmentally friendly ammo: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_bullet
- Green soldiering in South Africa: Tony reflects on the country’s green approach to soldiering: http://www.enviropaedia.com/topic/default.php?topic_id=128
And last but not least, don’t be like Max and Tony—read the manual before all else fails. As recommended by Vapenkunskap, check out the Swedish Mauser manual here: http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/FIREARMS/swede_m38-m41b-m96.pdf
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War and Money
Underground Strategy
09/08/24 • 28 min
Episode 2: War and Money – The Costs No One Talks About
In this episode, we dive into one of the hottest and most controversial topics—war and money. Max and Tony break down the financial side of conflict, from the massive costs of military operations to how war impacts economies and everyday lives. We explore who profits, who pays, and the unexpected financial ripple effects that war creates. Join us for a candid discussion on the real price of warfare and the money that fuels it.
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Pilot - Introduction
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09/08/24 • 34 min
Episode 1: Welcome to Underground Strategy
In this debut episode, get to know your hosts—Max Lauker, former Swedish Special Operations and Intelligence, and Tony Garcia, South African National Defence Force veteran. We kick things off with some loose talk, sharing personal stories from our military careers, discussing NATO’s latest moves, and giving you the scoop on the Arctic Ranger Regiment. It’s a laid-back start with a mix of news, banter, and a look at what's ahead for the podcast.
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The Lives and Narratives of POWs with Karen Horn
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11/17/24 • 22 min
In this edition of Underground Strategy, Max Lauker and Tony Garcia welcome historian Karen Horn, who brings her extensive research on prisoners of war (POWs) to the podcast. Karen shares insights from her books, In Enemy Hands and Prisoners of Jan Smuts, exploring the lives and experiences of POWs from WWII. Through her detailed research and personal interviews, Karen uncovers stories that reveal both the resilience and humanity of those who endured captivity.
During this engaging conversation, Karen discusses her unique approach to historical writing, focusing on the stories of individuals to convey the larger experience of POWs. She shares some memorable anecdotes from her interviews, reflecting on the humor, resilience, and challenges that POWs expressed during her research. From Italian POWs in South Africa to South Africans captured by the Germans, Karen’s work offers a rich look at the human element of wartime.
As POWs remain a constant through centuries of conflict, Karen’s stories resonate in today’s context, reminding us of the enduring complexities of war. We look forward to having her back.
Karen's books are available in South Africa in all good book stores, and abroad at:
Prisoners of Jan Smuts: https://amzn.eu/d/2zaQO9M
In Enemy Hands: In Enemy Hands: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1868426513
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FAQ
How many episodes does Underground Strategy have?
Underground Strategy currently has 16 episodes available.
What topics does Underground Strategy cover?
The podcast is about Security, Leadership, Podcasts, Business, Combat, Military History and Government.
What is the most popular episode on Underground Strategy?
The episode title 'Private Military Companies' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on Underground Strategy?
The average episode length on Underground Strategy is 27 minutes.
How often are episodes of Underground Strategy released?
Episodes of Underground Strategy are typically released every 3 days, 23 hours.
When was the first episode of Underground Strategy?
The first episode of Underground Strategy was released on Sep 8, 2024.
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