
Security, with Daria Krivonos
07/22/22 • 42 min
Too often, talk about security seems to belong to politicians and psychologists; to discussions about terrorism and defence, individual anxiety and insecurity. But how do sociologists think about it? And why care?
Daria Krivonos – who works on migration, race and class in Central and Eastern Europe – tells Alexis and Rosie why security matters. What’s the impact of calling migration a “security threat”? How does the security of the privileged rely on the insecurity of the precarious? And, as Russia’s war in Ukraine continues, what would it mean to truly #StandwithUkraine – from ensuring better job security for its workers abroad, to cancelling its debt?
Plus: pop culture pointers; from Kae Tempest’s “People’s Faces” to the movie “The Mauritanian” – and Alexis’ teenage passion for Rage Against the Machine.
Guest: Daria Krivonos
Hosts: Rosie Hancock, Alexis Hieu Truong
Executive Producer: Alice Bloch
Sound Engineer: David Crackles
Music: Joe Gardner
Artwork: Erin Aniker
Find more about Uncommon Sense at The Sociological Review.
Episode Resources
Daria, Rosie and Alexis recommended
- Kae Tempest’s song “People’s Faces”
- Rage Against the Machine’s song “Without a Face”
- Kevin Macdonald’s movie “The Mauritanian”
From The Sociological Review
- “Brexit On ‘Plague Island’: Fortifying The UK’s Borders In Times Of Crisis” – Michaela Benson and Nando Sigona
- “Organised State Abandonment: The meaning of Grenfell” – Brenna Bhandar
- “Food Insecurity: Upsetting ‘Apple Carts’ in Abstract and Tangible Markets” – Susan Marie Martin
By Daria Krivonos
- “The making of gendered ‘migrant workers’ in youth activation: The case of young Russian-speakers in Finland”
- “Ukrainian farm workers and Finland’s regular army of labour”
- “Who stands with Ukraine in the long term?”
- “Racial capitalism and the production of difference in Helsinki and Warsaw” (forthcoming)
Further readings
- “The Death of Asylum” – Alison Mountz
- “What was the so-called ‘European Refugee Crisis’?” – Danish Refugee Council
- World Food Programme Yemen and Ethiopia statistics
- “In Larger Freedom: Towards Development, Security and Human Rights for All” – UN Secretary-General
- “Ukrainian Workers Flee ‘Modern Slavery’ Conditions on UK Farms” – Diane Taylor
- “Bordering” – Nira Yuval-Davis, Georgie Wemyss and Kathryn Cassidy
- Anthony Giddens’ sociological work; including “Modernity and Self-identity: Self and Society in the Late Modern Age”
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Too often, talk about security seems to belong to politicians and psychologists; to discussions about terrorism and defence, individual anxiety and insecurity. But how do sociologists think about it? And why care?
Daria Krivonos – who works on migration, race and class in Central and Eastern Europe – tells Alexis and Rosie why security matters. What’s the impact of calling migration a “security threat”? How does the security of the privileged rely on the insecurity of the precarious? And, as Russia’s war in Ukraine continues, what would it mean to truly #StandwithUkraine – from ensuring better job security for its workers abroad, to cancelling its debt?
Plus: pop culture pointers; from Kae Tempest’s “People’s Faces” to the movie “The Mauritanian” – and Alexis’ teenage passion for Rage Against the Machine.
Guest: Daria Krivonos
Hosts: Rosie Hancock, Alexis Hieu Truong
Executive Producer: Alice Bloch
Sound Engineer: David Crackles
Music: Joe Gardner
Artwork: Erin Aniker
Find more about Uncommon Sense at The Sociological Review.
Episode Resources
Daria, Rosie and Alexis recommended
- Kae Tempest’s song “People’s Faces”
- Rage Against the Machine’s song “Without a Face”
- Kevin Macdonald’s movie “The Mauritanian”
From The Sociological Review
- “Brexit On ‘Plague Island’: Fortifying The UK’s Borders In Times Of Crisis” – Michaela Benson and Nando Sigona
- “Organised State Abandonment: The meaning of Grenfell” – Brenna Bhandar
- “Food Insecurity: Upsetting ‘Apple Carts’ in Abstract and Tangible Markets” – Susan Marie Martin
By Daria Krivonos
- “The making of gendered ‘migrant workers’ in youth activation: The case of young Russian-speakers in Finland”
- “Ukrainian farm workers and Finland’s regular army of labour”
- “Who stands with Ukraine in the long term?”
- “Racial capitalism and the production of difference in Helsinki and Warsaw” (forthcoming)
Further readings
- “The Death of Asylum” – Alison Mountz
- “What was the so-called ‘European Refugee Crisis’?” – Danish Refugee Council
- World Food Programme Yemen and Ethiopia statistics
- “In Larger Freedom: Towards Development, Security and Human Rights for All” – UN Secretary-General
- “Ukrainian Workers Flee ‘Modern Slavery’ Conditions on UK Farms” – Diane Taylor
- “Bordering” – Nira Yuval-Davis, Georgie Wemyss and Kathryn Cassidy
- Anthony Giddens’ sociological work; including “Modernity and Self-identity: Self and Society in the Late Modern Age”
Support our work. Make a one-off or regular donation to help fund future episodes of Uncommon Sense: donorbox.org/uncommon-sense
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Intimacy, with Katherine Twamley
Think of intimacy and, pretty soon, you’ll probably think about sex. But, as sociologist Katherine Twamley explains, intimacy means much more than that: it’s woven through so many of our relationships – including with people whose names we might not even know. She tells Rosie and Alexis how an accidental trip to India got her thinking about the varied meanings of “love” across cultures and contexts, and reflects on whether, to quote the famous song, love and marriage really do “go together like a horse and carriage”.
Plus: what could it mean to decolonise love? Why should we be wary of acts performed in the name of love? Will we ever live in a truly “contactless” world, and who wants that? And we get intimate with the artist Sophie Calle.
Guest: Katherine TwamleyHosts: Rosie Hancock, Alexis Hieu TruongExecutive Producer: Alice BlochSound Engineer: David CracklesMusic: Joe GardnerArtwork: Erin Aniker
Find more about Uncommon Sense at The Sociological Review.
Episode Resources
Katherine, Rosie, Alexis and our producer Alice recommended
- Ian McEwan’s novel “Machines Like Me”
- Haruhiko Kawaguchi’s photography
- Sophie Calle’s conceptual art
- Alex Thompson’s film “Saint Frances”
From The Sociological Review
- “The Sociology of Love” – Julia Carter
- On asexual people and intimacy – Matt Dawson, Liz McDonnell and Susie Scott
- On the phenomenon of self-marriage – Kinneret Lahad and Michal Karvel-Tovi
Further readings
- “Love, Marriage and Intimacy Among Gujarati Indians” – Katherine Twamley
- “Families We Choose: Lesbians, Gays, Kinship” – Kath Weston
- “Intimate Labors: Cultures, Technologies, and the Politics of Care” – Eileen Boris and Rhacel Salazar Parreñas (editors)
- On Emotional Labour – Arlie Hochschild
- “Decolonising Families and Relationships” – British Sociological Association webinars
- “Liquid Love: On the Frailty of Human Bonds” – Zygmunt Bauman
- “Individualization: Institutionalized Individualism and Its Social and Political Consequences” – Elisabeth Beck-Gernsheim and Ulrich Beck
- Nandita Dutta’s research on South Asian beauty salons in London as diasporic sites of intimacy
- Nick Crossley’s sociological work
- Jessica Ringrose’s sociological work
- Greta Thunberg’s Twitter page (mentioned by Katherine as an intimacy example)
- James Baldwin’s novel “Giovanni’s Room”
- Sally Rooney’s novel “Normal People”
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Uncommon Sense - Security, with Daria Krivonos
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Hi, welcome back to Uncommon Sense from The Sociological Review, I'm Alexis Hieu Truong in Quebec, Canada.
Rosie HancockAnd I'm Rosie Hancock in Sydney, Australia. This podcast is about showing that sociology doesn't belong to universities or professional academics, it belongs to all of us. Each month, we take something we might assume we're pretty familiar with. And we sit with it for a while
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