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Takeaway #2 - Extremes Lead to Extremes
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05/02/23 • 12 min
In the fall of 1814, the powers of Europe gathered together to discuss what to do with the continent after the Napoleonic Wars. Napoleon had changed a lot in his time in power! He cowed the Roman Catholic Church, ended serfdom where he went, freed Jews from their ghettos, took away kingdoms, and placed new kings in charge. The Congress of Vienna was tasked with a Humpty Dumpty scenario and they couldn't put Europe back together again.
The various countries also wanted to be compensated for their efforts to stop Napoleon. Couldn't they take a little piece of land? Encroach on one of the lesser kingdoms? Install their own puppet governments? In trying to undo all of the changes Napoleon made, they became little Napoleons themselves.
In the same way, when we confront extremism with extremism we become exactly what we dislike. Shouldn't Christians be more focused on simple righteousness than culture wars?
Select Sources:
- The Rites of Peace by Adam Zamoyski
- Napoleon: A Life by Andrew Roberts (a great place to start if you want to learn about Napoleon)
Discussion Questions:
- What was the Congress of Vienna?
- Why did the congress matter?
- Have you ever served God to the point where it cost you something big to do so?
- How have you seen the modern Church become what it opposes?
- Have you seen Christians or churches act in a righteous way?
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The Pew and the Picket Line (feat. Heath Carter)
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08/04/20 • 35 min
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The United States and Russia ran along parallel tracks in the late 1800s and 1900s. Both were empires. Both were tangled in war. Both were feeling the weight of the Industrial Revolution. But they divided in how they would deal with labor. That critical difference changed the history of the world.
In this episode, Professor Heath Carter of the Princeton Theological Seminary starts the first of a two-episode conversation about Christianity and labor. Mr. Carter is the author of Union Made and editor of books such as The Pew and the Picket Line.
Helpful Links:
- Heath Carter on Twitter
- New York City in 1903 video (Library of Congress)
- Interesting video of Heath Carter talking about labor
- Article about the Native American from the top of the show
Topics Discussed:
- Do Christians support unions?
- The F. Scott Fitzgerald quote about first-rate intelligence and two ideas
- Working conditions in the 1800s in Chicago
- Pew rents
- How do churches make their money?
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The American West: Is It A Sin to Be Wealthy? (featuring Yale Professor Justin Farrell)
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07/20/21 • 50 min
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Jackson, Wyoming is a small tourist town in the middle of nowhere. It is just a few miles south of Grand Teton National Park and Yellowstone. Millions of people pass through each year as tourists. It's a vacation hotspot. But for those who choose to stay in this region, Teton County is anything but a vacation. Rising income inequality and housing costs have created a hostile environment for working people. The median home price in Jackson went up 47% in 2020 alone, rising to $2.2 million while wages remain stagnant.
We've been talking for the last few episodes about myths of the American West, how cowboy myths about a lone rugged individual have shaped the US. Now it's time to understand how cowboy myths have impacted American Christianity.
Our guest today is Justin Farrell. He's a sociologist and professor at Yale. His book is Billionaire Wilderness. In it, Farrell recounts his studies of the ultra-wealthy. What makes them tick? What are they afraid of? Why do they dress the way they do? And what draws them to the far western border of Wyoming?
Discussion Questions:
- Read the story of the rich young ruler (Mark 10:17-27). What do you think of Jesus' warning about wealthy people entering the kingdom of God?
- Many of the tax avoidance practices discussed in this series are legal (except pretending to live in one place while living in another). Do you think that legality and morality are tied together?
- Are these practices moral?
- What types of friction do you experience in your own life?
- How would more money change the level of friction you encounter?
- How would less money change the level of friction you encounter?
- Do you think that friction is a valuable thing to pay attention to in our lives?
- What is the role of empathy in a Christian's life?
- How do you use money to benefit yourself as opposed to others?
Helpful Links:
- Justin Farrell's book Billionaire Wilderness
- NY Times article about President Trump changing his residence to get out of paying taxes
- Book The Velvet Rope Economy about inequalities in health care, airlines, services, and even Disney World.
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World War One I Christian Fundamentalism Series
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11/08/22 • 39 min
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The modernish/ fundamentalist controversy was heating up in the early 1900s. Conservatives saw this coming a long way off but could not stop modernism from taking control of seminaries and popular pulpits. It was everywhere. It all came to a head with WWI.
Theological conservatives saw WWI as evidence that the world was getting worse. To them, it was a chance to fight for patriotic reasons. Modernists were also pro-war because they thought this was the "war to end all wars". There would be no more war after this and democracy would take over the world. The liberals fired the first shots in this theological battle because they thought that premillennialism encouraged people to root for the end of the world.
William Jennings Bryan was Secretary of State in the US during this time and did his best to keep us out of the war.
This episode features the voices of George Marsden (author of "Fundamentalism and American Culture") and Michael Kazin, professor at Georgetown University and author of "What it Took to Win".
Sources:
- Fundamentalism and American Culture by George Marsden
- The Evangelicals by Frances Fitzgerald
- A Godly Hero by Michael Kazin
- What it Took to Win by Michael Kazin
- These Truths by Jill Lepore
- To End All Wars by Adam Hochschild
- Dead Wake by Erik Larson (about The Lusitania)
- Woodrow Wilson's second inauguration
- Short article about Billy Sunday
Discussion Questions:
- What was the purpose of WWI? What caused it?
- Would you have been for or against the war in the 1900s?
- How can pre and post-millenniallism shape a person's view of the world? Does it have to?
- How does social Darwinism tie into WWI and WWII?
- Is WWI an outcome of changing morality?
- How would you tell a large audience of Christians to adapt to changing morality?
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Inherit the Wind | Christian Fundamentalism Series
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03/21/23 • 44 min
US Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed an era of suspicion on the American people as he went looking for communists. His trials, both public and behind closed doors, focused on the government as well as Hollywood and the Army. He claimed that he had lists of communists, but failed to produce that list. It wasn't until the Army-McCarthy hearings in the spring and summer of 1954 that his unfounded hearings were put to rest.
One year later the play Inherit the Wind opened. It was supposed to be a critique of the McCarthy era set inside of a re-telling of the Scopes "monkey" trial. In doing so, it got many of the facts wrong. John Scopes never spent any time in jail. He didn't have a girlfriend, and that girlfriend was not berated on the stand. The townspeople of Dayton, TN were welcoming to both Bryan and Darrow.
To explore this work of art and revisionist history I spoke with the hosts of the Seeing and Believing podcast Kevin McLenithan and Sarah Welch-Larson.
Select differences between the Scopes trial and Inherit the Wind
- John Scopes was arrested but never spent time in jail.
- He was "arrested" in a soda fountain where the test trial was conceived and not in school.
- Scopes later claimed he never taught evolution, which is why he never took the stand in real life.
- The entire case was set up as a publicity stunt to bring attention to the town of Dayton, TN. They got the idea when they saw an ad placed by the ACLU.
- The character of Rachel did not exist in real life.
- The people of Dayton were welcoming to both Darrow and Bryan and Scopes was loved by many. He even spent time swimming with the prosecution between trial sessions.
- The moment when Bryan was on trial was held outdoors.
- H.L. Mencken was not some loveable curmudgeon. He was an anti-semite and a racist.
- Dayton largely did not vote for Bryan when he ran for president.
- Bryan died a few days after the trial, not while in the courtroom.
- Darrow did not carry a copy of the Bible and Darwin out of the courtroom.
- The textbook in question during the trial was clearly pro-eugenics, was sold in the soda fountain, and had been approved by the state textbook committee.
- The preachers of the town were kind. The odd sermon given the night of the trial never happened and the script adds a lot of strange things that are not in the Bible.
- Bryan wished the law to have no penalty, unlike his stand-in in the movie who hoped for a harsher punishment.
Sources
- Inherit the Wind (1960 version) starring Spencer Tracy
- Summer for the Gods by Edward Larson
- Chris' own visit to the Dayton museum dedicated to the trial
- Helpful video about the Napoleon painting
Discussion Questions:
- Where is the line between art and propaganda?
- Does art have an obligation to the truth?
- Do you see McCarthyism in Inherit the Wind?
- Is Inherit the Wind a fair way of discussing the Scopes trial, or a work of revisionist history? Why does it matter?
- What would it mean for a group that feels maligned and misunderstood to have a film misrepresent them?
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Takeaway #5 - The Only Thing We Have to Fear
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06/13/23 • 15 min
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On March 4, 1933, FDR delivered his inaugural address. In it, he used the phrase "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself". I did a little searching and this phrase is used a LOT in Christian books. So often. But it almost always refers to the fear one person has in their heart. In reality, it is a comment on collective fear. The Great Depression started in 1929 and was exacerbated by a bank run in which Americans lost faith in the value of our currency and the banking systems.
That is an important distinction. FDR's speech is about collective fear. As I've contemplated the modernist/fundamentalist debate this season, I keep returning to the idea of fear, not in the US economy but in God's economy. He commands us to love the Lord, keep His commands, love our neighbors, turn the other cheek, and give to those who ask of us. Why do we forget to do this important work? Could it be because we've lost faith in God's economy?
This episode features a clip from my discussion with Jacob Goldstein, former host of NPR's Planet Money podcast and the current host of Pushkin's What's Your Problem? podcast. His book is Money: The True Story of a Made-up Thing.
Select Sources
- FDR's Inaugural Address
- Jacob Goldstein's Money: The True Story of a Made-Up Thing
- Movie: It's a Wonderful Life
Discussion Questions:
- Why does it matter that FDR's quote "...the only thing we have to fear is fear itself" is a collective statement and not one about individual fear?
- What are some identifying features of God's economy?
- Do you trust in the way that God tells us to do things?
- When was the last time you prayed for someone who you don't like?
- Do you believe in turning the other cheek?
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Republicans and Evangelicals I Billy Graham and Nixon
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05/14/24 • 35 min
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Billy Graham, the famous evangelist, was good friends with Richard Nixon. The two played golf and gave each other advice. Graham was the person who encouraged Nixon to run for president a second time. He also encouraged Nixon to regularly attend church, so Nixon started the first regular church service in the White House, only to make it another "it" place to be seen. But when Nixon's crimes were made public, Graham continued to support him, commenting only on the strong language used by the president.
What does it mean for Christian leaders to stand behind a corrupt president? In this episode, Chris interviews David Bruce, a historian at the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.
NOTE: I thought it was especially important to outline the many crimes of the Nixon administration. Today these crimes are downplayed by bad actors wishing to rewrite history. It is important to emphasize that not only were there immoral acts of shenanigans, there were real crimes perpetrated against individuals, organizations, and the American people.
Sources
- "The Surprising Work of God" by Garth M. Rosell
- An article from The Atlantic about the Pope and Mussolini
- "The Popes Against the Protestants" by Kevin Madigan
- NPR interview with Kevin Madigan
- "A Prophet With Honor" book by William Martin
- "The Invisible Bridge" by Rick Perlstein
- "The Evangelicals" by Frances Fitzgerald
- "The Failure and the Hope: Essays of Southern Churchmen" book of essays accessed on Google Books
- New York Times article about how the Watergate break-in was financed
- Pat Buchanan hearings during the Watergate investigation
- Frost/Nixon transcript
Discussion Questions:
- Was Billy Graham being a good friend by supporting Nixon after Watergate?
- Should religious leaders maintain a certain amount of distance between themselves and people of power?
- Why do we like to see our governmental leaders as religious people?
- Was Nixon's church service in the Whitehouse wrong to be a gathering place of the rich and famous?
- How bad was the Watergate break-in? How does it change your mind about Nixon to know about the other criminal activity?
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Walter Rauschenbusch and the Great Reversal | Christian Fundamentalism Series
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10/25/22 • 26 min
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Walter Rauscenbush published his classic book Christianity and the Social Crisis in 1907. It went on to become a defining work of the social gospel movement. We've spent a lot of time talking about the social gospel this season. That is because it has been identified by historians as the key movement that fundamentalists rebelled against. So we really should understand it, right?
In this episode, Chris takes us through highlights of this classic book in order to understand how the social gospel differed from evangelical Christianity. While it lifted up the necessity of doing good works, the social gospel often omitted salvation altogether. Contrast that to evangelical preachers like D.L. Moody who lived their lives with the sole purpose of evangelism.
This division between evangelicalism and liberal theologies led to the Great Reversal when theologically conservative Christians went from participating in public acts of goodwill to distancing themselves from it.
Breakdown of points made from Christianity and the Social Crisis
- Rauschenbush's thoughts on socialism (p152)
- Theories on prophets of the Old Testament creating Judaism - p3 - 5
- Amos and Jeremiah denied that God ever told them to sacrifice - p6
- Morality is the only thing God cares about - p6
- God is interested in the morality of the nation over the individual - p11, 29
- The Bible has been altered when it comes to the stories of Jesus - p62-63
- Wealth is associated with the wicked in the Bible - p13
- Jewish people distributed land in communistic ways - p14
- John the Baptist and Jesus both wanted to restore theocracy to Israel - p53
- Rauschenbush's ideas about how industry chews people up - p370
- Socialism is inevitable - outside link page 153
Discussion Questions:
- What is Christianity?
- How much of Christianity can you remove before it becomes something else?
- Why are we so split between those of us who think of good works and those of us who think of salvation?
- What is the role of Christians in society?
- Now that you've decided on the role of Christians in society, how do you match up with your own expectations?
Select Sources:
- Google Books version of Christianity and the Social Crisis
- Fundamentalism and American Culture by George Marsden
- More on the ship of Theseus
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The Cult of MLM
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09/28/21 • 23 min
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Multi-level marketing companies have many similarities to cults:
- They tend to have strong authoritarian leaders
- They expect you to believe their philosophy
- They separate you from your loved ones and people who question the MLM
- They make utopian promises
Why don't we think of them as cults? Well, we don't like to think of businesses as being cults. MLM companies and organizations have connections in high places like the White House and the Chamber of Commerce.
Robert FitzPatrick joins us once more to discuss his research. He's the founder of www.pyramidschemealert.org and the author of the book Ponzinomics: The Untold Story of Multi-Level Marketing.
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The Scopes "Monkey" Trial Part Two | Christian Fundamentalism Series
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03/07/23 • 38 min
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The trial was basically over. The prosecution won. John Scopes was moments away from being convicted of teaching evolution in Dayton, Tennessee. The ACLU and the prosecution had what they wanted. But Clarence Darrow did not. He wanted to make a monkey out of William Jennings Bryan, the famous "fundamentalist". But how?
Darrow knew that if he turned down the chance to make a closing argument that Bryan would not be able to make one either. That meant that Bryan's carefully crafted words would never get heard. But he had one more trick up his sleeve. He would call Bryan, the lawyer for the prosecution, to the stand. Imagine that! The case was no longer about the defendant. It was about the lawyers trying to flex.
Bryan took the bait. He got on the stand outdoors next to the Rhea County Courthouse in front of an audience of millions. Darrow, in a masterstroke, hit him over and over with the questions of any village atheist. Did Jonah really get swallowed by a large fish? Did the sun really stand still because Joshua prayed that it would? And Bryan... floundered on live radio.
This event was made even more famous by the long-running play Inherit the Wind on broadway, which was followed up by a movie adaptation. But the play got it all wrong. Edward Larson, professor at Pepperdine University, and author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning book Summer for the Gods, joins Chris to uncover what really happened on that muggy summer day.
Helpful Sources:
- "Summer for the Gods" by Edward Larson
- Rhea County Heritage and Scopes Trial Museum Worth a visit!
- Court Transcript of the Scopes Trial (easy to find online)
- "A Godly Hero" by Michael Kazin
Discussion Questions:
- Bryan believed in majoritarianism. What is that idea? What do you think of it?
- Do you think Bryan should have gotten on the stand? Why or why not?
- How did Bryan do on the stand in your opinion?
- Does this court case matter in your understanding of fundamentalism?
- How and when should Christians make stands for their beliefs? When should we stay quiet?
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