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Trigger Strategy

Trigger Strategy

Tom Kerwin and Corissa Nunn

We’re Tom and Corissa from Trigger Strategy Group. In each episode, we dig into strategy and sense-making while taking our baby for a walk.Our work is about embracing uncertainty and complexity, making sense of the world so we can act in it.We cover strategy, organisation design, facilitation, research and experimentation, peppering our chats with anecdotes, rants and occasional adorable babbling from the baby.

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Today, we start by adding some corrections to terminology we used in episode 70, which will be confusing if you haven't listened to that one. But it doesn't take long, and then we get into our main topic, which is granularity. When you work with too coarse a granularity, you can find yourself stuck or confused about what to do. When you work with too fine a granularity, you can quickly find yourself overwhelmed, drowning in data, paralysed by too many options. The magic is to find the sweet spot, where you break things down just enough to create good options for action.


We talk through ASHEN as a typology for decomposing people or roles to a more legible and actionable level of granularity, and Corissa tries it out for real with one of her old bosses.


Links


ASHEN on the Cynefin wiki: https://cynefin.io/wiki/ASHEN

Article about stages of companies vs different people's natural propensities: https://newsletter.thewayofwork.com/p/stage-fright



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Trigger Strategy - 081: Alignment alignment alignment
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10/16/24 • 25 min

We talk about alignment. Especially, we talk about relaxing our beef with the word alignment, and embracing the reasonable desire for alignment.


00:00 Welcome!

00:28 Alignment in companies

00:49 Challenges and misconceptions about alignment

04:07 Coherence vs. alignment; JP Castlin's ABCDE framework, and one line in the sand vs two lines in the sand

08:27 A real-world example of a misaligned project

10:38 Strategies for effective alignment, including "via negativa" alignment

12:52 Aligning teams with reality as well as intent

13:25 The role of the "strategy whisperer"

13:47 Empowering teams to find alignment

13:58 Back briefing for effective communication

16:13 Understanding the need for leadership governance vs the needs of teams

17:30 Challenges with leadership expectations

19:49 Navigating company growth realities

20:37 Dropping our beef with alignment and going vegetarian

23:34 Are you clearly a berry? Clear communication taps the forager's gathering instinct

24:41 Exploring alignment beyond the team

25:42 Final thoughts



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Trigger Strategy - 087: How big things get done (part 2)
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12/03/24 • 23 min

More thoughts from How Big Things Get Done while on the way to brunch.


(You'll need to have listened to part 1 for some of the references in here.)

  • The fight between data and stories
  • Jimi Hendrix's Electric Lady recording studio
  • Sounds obvious that you should think slow act fast, but most projects don't go like that
  • The political utility of sunk cost bias
  • Tom dramatically underestimated how long it would take to make his Innovation Tactics Pip Deck
  • Robert Caro dramatically underestimated how long it would take to write The Power Broker
  • Internal forecasting vs Reference Class Forecasting, and the problem of uniqueness bias
  • Forecasting and iterating a solo jazz dance workshop ... based on Ashtanga yoga
  • Master Multiverse Mapping and fighting the Inherent Bigness of Ideas by asking, "how could we deliver the value to one person, right now?"
  • Forecasting example: how long will kitchen remodelling take?

Linky Goodness



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Trigger Strategy - 068: Modest visions vs sci-fi visions
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08/02/24 • 48 min

In which Corissa and Tom explore more nuances and wrinkles to do with vision and strategy, with examples, metaphors and practical tips.

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Trigger Strategy - 085: High on agency?

085: High on agency?

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11/19/24 • 21 min

“grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.” – the Serenity Prayer

The concept of “High Agency” burst into the online leadership conversation in recent years. And it sounds good, doesn’t it? Who wouldn’t want to be high agency? Who wouldn’t want to have high agency employees?


As with many such “obviously good” concepts, turns out it’s not that simple.


In this episode, Corissa and Tom also look at the other side of hopes for high agency.


We talk about how some leaders might wish for high agency employees, but would balk at what a very high agency employee would do in reality.


And we talk about what you need to know if you’re an employee being expected to demonstrate more agency.


And we signpost a whole load of lovely rabbit holes to go explore.

“imagine that I could sell you a magic pill and you could give it to two of your employees and overnight they would suddenly become high agency. What would be the first thing you’d notice was different when you went into work the next day?”

Linky Goodness

Timecodes to help you navigate

00:00 Introduction

00:28 What is High Agency?

01:10 The Serenity Prayer

02:00 Estuarine Mapping is the Serenity Prayer in map form

03:45 High agency as a positive trait ... & its permeation into leadership mythology

04:06 “Sound like a challenger, but be an obedient drone”

06:20 Perhaps it’s about not waiting for permission, while also not doing silly things

08:09 Tools to create higher agency if you want that – including Multiverse Mapping

13:01 What if the traits we want in leaders are not the traits that get you promoted?

17:31 A magic question for you to use

18:34 What would have to be true for that stupid thing to make a lot of sense?

19:42 “You can choose the game you play, but not its rules”



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Trigger Strategy - 075: Effectual thinking vs causal thinking
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09/20/24 • 32 min

We recorded this one on a whim and we didn't have our microphone with a little hat on it, so the wind noise makes a guest appearance. Apologies – return to quality sound soon.


Corissa grabbed a snippet from an article:

Over at one of my favourite blogs, Common Cog, Cedric Chin writes that there is a style of thinking that is reliably exhibited by successful entrepreneurs. It is called effectual thinking, and it's the type of improvisatory, reality based thinking that follows the question, what effects can be produced with the spread of resources in front of me? He contrasts this with causal thinking, which is the opposite pattern, looking towards an ideal outcome and then trying to work backwards to derive the actions required to eventually bring about that future.

And this inspired us to talk through effectual thinking. We go on a blustery journey through chefs in high-end experimental kitchens, John Boyd's Snowmobiling, Mr Beast, Steve Jobs, Estuarine Framework and Small Bets.


The big question: can effectual thinking give you a happier, healthier way to operate, or is it just the case that, as Andrew Wilkinson put it, "most highly successful people are “just a walking anxiety disorder, harnessed for productivity”?


Linky goodness:


Sasha Chapin's article: https://sashachapin.substack.com/p/our-perfume-line-is-here

Cedric Chin's Common Cog: https://commoncog.com/when-action-beats-prediction/

Vaughn Tan's Uncertainty Mindset: https://uncertaintymindset.org/

Snowmobiling podcast episode: https://shows.acast.com/triggerstrategy/episodes/072-granularity-part-2-snowmobiling

Do 100 Thing podcast episode: https://shows.acast.com/triggerstrategy/episodes/043-do-100-thing

Innovation Tactics: https://bit.ly/innovation-10

Small Bets: https://smallbets.com/



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Trigger Strategy - 079: Speculative use cases
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10/04/24 • 33 min

We talk about a question posed in Innovation Tactics Slack - about a stakeholder who’s skeptical that design research can help with genuine innovation, and wants to create speculative use cases instead.


Topics we touch on:

  • Are speculative use cases a "thing"? Is it helpful to imagine people doing something that's just not happening today? Like, 500 years ago, nobody got their shoelace trapped in an escalator. In 2003, nobody was planning out how they'd price their product on the App Store.
  • Is it reasonable to be skeptical about design research?
  • What do you do when you're working with someone who's already decided what they want and isn't interested in evidence?
  • Radical repurposing as an alternative – follow the pathfinders
  • Snowmobiling as a possible approach – remix the adjacent possible
  • Jamming with your stakeholder to understand and clarify (with the side effect that you might expose gaps or incoherence)
  • Bias in research

Some quotes:


"Getting a shoelace trapped in an escalator - that's not a thing that happened 500 years ago."


"Just doing something because you think it's cool is totally valid as a way of operating a business"


"Everyone who has a brilliant idea thinks that their idea is the next big thing. And everyone but one in a million is wrong about that. And even the one in a million tends to be wrong about exactly how it's going to work."


"Play Doh was invented, not as a toy for kids, but as a putty for removing coal soot from walls. It was repurposed into the kids' toy after people stopped having coal fires"


"You're very unlikely to invent something novel that works. You're very likely to find somebody doing something novel that you can scale."


"You can absolutely go and do the best interviewing in the world and not come back with anything that's going to be a breakthrough innovation for your company. It may be that your company is not positioned to make a breakthrough innovation."


"this is the trap that so many people fall into and I've heard it more times than I can count. It's that need to educate the market. Do not, do not try, red flag, back away slowly or run, run speedily off into the distance."



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Trigger Strategy - 092: Twenty Twenty (Meta) Four
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01/05/25 • 34 min

Brief notes today. This is kind of a wrap up of 2024 but not like others.


TL;DR: a garden decking disaster becomes a meaningful framing for rearchitecting our business.


What metaphor can you use to reframe your 2024?


Linky Goodness



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Trigger Strategy - 078: Criticisms of selling before building
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10/01/24 • 13 min

In the last episode, we introduced Rob Snyder's framing of finding your repeatable case study instead of building your tech product.


This time, we step back into the Pain Cave to talk through some of the criticisms that Rob (and we) often face when we suggest the approach we do.


We think they're misunderstandings of what we're advocating, but they're also sound points.


First, we consider the scolding that we should follow a proper research and design process and build the right thing at high quality from day one, not throw spaghetti at the wall. Sometimes this is true, but sometimes it's just not possible.


Second, we face the fear of selling "vapourware" – nobody wants to follow in Elizabeth Holmes' footsteps, promising stuff that can't be realised (Theranos). Absolutely right! But that's not at all what we're recommending.


And all this brings us to the concept of Bounded Applicability. No ideas are suitable for all projects, products, etc. So how can you think about what's appropriate in a given situation?


Linky goodness:

  • Bounded Applicability: https://shows.acast.com/triggerstrategy/episodes/663109cbcff31b0012ae9306
  • My diagram showing some methods' Bounded Applicability: https://www.notion.so/Pitch-Provocations-54ad05d5740e451db0fa82479debeb91
  • Previous episode about Rob Snyder: https://shows.acast.com/triggerstrategy/episodes/077-do-you-have-to-spend-years-in-the-pain-cave


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Surveys are almost always biased in several ways, notably both the way questions are asked but also sample bias: who in the population even answers surveys?


In this episode we discuss: is the SenseMaker collector we shared biased just the same as any other survey? And if so, is that a problem? And if so, what can we do about it?


Plus stories about skullduggery in presenting data, hiding gorillas in radiologist scans and the "magic" or standard questions:

  • What's similar, different and surprising?
  • What, so what, now what?

Linky goodness:



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How many episodes does Trigger Strategy have?

Trigger Strategy currently has 92 episodes available.

What topics does Trigger Strategy cover?

The podcast is about Product, Marketing, Management, Entrepreneurship, Design, Research, Startup, Podcasts, Business, Copywriting and Strategy.

What is the most popular episode on Trigger Strategy?

The episode title '065: The inherent bigness of ideas' is the most popular.

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The average episode length on Trigger Strategy is 29 minutes.

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Episodes of Trigger Strategy are typically released every 3 days, 5 hours.

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The first episode of Trigger Strategy was released on Apr 13, 2021.

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