Kemp Brinson and Pip Penney, part I

• Kemp Brinson of Winter Haven, Florida, is back!
• This time he's interviewing Pip Penney of the Llandaff and Monmouth Association, in Wales. Pip, creator of the Association of Ringing Teachers, discusses the genesis of the ART, creating instructional videos, how to get a ringer past a hurdle that seems to have them hung up, and describes a program for developing ropesight.
• Finally, Pip and I catch up to discuss breaking bad habits, distracting learners, and physical aptitude.

Thank you, friends.