
Making Disciples: MasterLife Together | Matt and Allison Willis
09/19/22 • 36 min
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Matt and Allison Willis on Making Disciples, using the new MasterLife Together material.
Matt Willis | Allison Willis Bio
Matt and Allison Willis are the authors of the new book MasterLife Together, which releases October 3rd through Lifeway. MasterLife Together is an updated edition of MasterLife which has sold hundreds of thousands of copies and become some of the most frequently used discipleship materials over the last 40 years.
Currently at Calvary Baptist Church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, Matt Willis is the Associate Pastor of Missions and Evangelism. Matt has a master’s of divinity from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and also co-authored Learning to Soar: How to Grow Through Transitions and Trials.
Allison is a registered dietitian with a master’s degree in dietetics and is a nutrition counselor. Allison edited a simplified version of Be Transformed: Discovering Biblical Solutions to Life’s Problems, which she helped translate into South Asian languages and used to train women over- seas.
Matt and Allison Willis met each other in college on an international mission trip over 20 years ago. While serving the Lord together is how their relation- ship began, they went on to serve as missionaries with the International Mission Board for 7 years in South Asia.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com, and a pastor from Central Texas is out on sabbatical.
Websites and Other Links
MasterLife Together Discipleship CurriculumI Aim to Be That Man: Avery Willis Jr. Biography
Daily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church Services
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Matt and Allison Willis on Making Disciples, using the new MasterLife Together material.
Matt Willis | Allison Willis Bio
Matt and Allison Willis are the authors of the new book MasterLife Together, which releases October 3rd through Lifeway. MasterLife Together is an updated edition of MasterLife which has sold hundreds of thousands of copies and become some of the most frequently used discipleship materials over the last 40 years.
Currently at Calvary Baptist Church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, Matt Willis is the Associate Pastor of Missions and Evangelism. Matt has a master’s of divinity from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and also co-authored Learning to Soar: How to Grow Through Transitions and Trials.
Allison is a registered dietitian with a master’s degree in dietetics and is a nutrition counselor. Allison edited a simplified version of Be Transformed: Discovering Biblical Solutions to Life’s Problems, which she helped translate into South Asian languages and used to train women over- seas.
Matt and Allison Willis met each other in college on an international mission trip over 20 years ago. While serving the Lord together is how their relation- ship began, they went on to serve as missionaries with the International Mission Board for 7 years in South Asia.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com, and a pastor from Central Texas is out on sabbatical.
Websites and Other Links
MasterLife Together Discipleship CurriculumI Aim to Be That Man: Avery Willis Jr. Biography
Daily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church Services
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Is Your Church a Great Place to Work? Dr. Michael Steiner
Is the Church today a phenomenal place to work? How does working for your church compare to elite companies? How should a pastor encourage and lead church staff to fulfill your mission? On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Dr. Michael Steiner on how you can improve your church’s work week culture.
Dr. Michael Steiner Bio
Dr. Michael Steiner is the Vice President of Innovation and Communication at Southeastern University in Florida. Michael has a PhD in Organizational Psychology and is on a mission to help pastors make churches incredible places to work. He and his wife have 2 kids and while not pastoring, Michael enjoys encouraging church leaders through his TikTok channel @drmichaelsteiner.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com, and a pastor from Central Texas is out on sabbatical.
Notable Quotable:
- "The New Testament does not prescribe any particular structure of Church governance. What it describes is a set of gifts that the Holy Spirit has moved upon the Church and has anointed people to do certain works at specific times. It describes what they could do, but it doesn't prescribe." (15:01)
- A Church Government Revolution - Peter Haas (17:22)
- "Every organization on the planet is trying to manufacture purpose. (Businesses) are spending millions of dollars per year in their HR department to manipulate and convince their employees that they are working on a cause greater than themselves. You as the Church already have that naturally; you don't need to make that up. Think about how radical that is. You are a part of growing and building and being an essential worker in the Kingdom of God." (19:33)
- The Living Reminder - Henri Nouwen (23:40)
- "The ultimate move of the Enemy is not to get you to hate God or hate the faith... the move of the Enemy is to get you to forget why you started in the first place." (23:45)
- "The word decide means to "cut away". So when you decide on a strategy that means you are cutting away a bunch of things that you could do, so that you can do the one thing that you were called to do. That is where you have to get as a Church." (28:28)
- Measure What Matters - John Doerr (30:33)
- OKR System - Objective and Key Results
- Neurobiology of Leadership: "Making decisions is the number one calorie activity in your body. There is nothing that burns calories more than making decisions. The prefrontal cortex accounts for 20% of all calories burned in a day. Making decisions takes a ton of power. Your brain will do whatever it can to avoid making a decision. That is why we created leaders." (35:14)
- How does a new person become adjusted into an organization? (42:11)
- Role Clarity - Does a person understand what they are doing and why they are doing it?
- Self-Efficacy - Do they have the confidence they can accomplish the thing they are supposed to be doing?
- Acceptance - Are they a part of a web where they feel valued and they value that web in return?
Websites and Other Links
Dr. Michael Steiner TikTok @drmichaelsteiner
Daily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church Services
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#butGod | Pastor Jeremy Freeman and Caleb Freeman
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor Jeremy Freeman, and his son Caleb, on finding hope during catastrophe.
Jeremy Freeman is the Pastor of First Baptist Church Newcastle. Jeremy and his wife Emily have 7 children, including Trey who went home to be with the Lord as a 7 year old in September 2013. Jeremy completed his undergraduate at the Oklahoma Baptist University and received his Master of Divinity degree from Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in 2008. Outside of pastoring and spending time with his family, Jeremy enjoys reading, watching sports, and studying God’s Word. Jeremy Freeman is the author of the new book which releases on October 18th, entitled #butGod: The Power of Hope When Catastrophe Crashes In.
Websites and Other Links
Order #butGod Book by Jeremy FreemanFBC Newcastle
Daily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church Services
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