Classical v Musical Theatre part 2 - Advice, techniques and a rant

03/13/23 • 45 min

Gillyanne & Jeremy answer more questions about classical vocal technique versus musical theatre vocal technique.
Which is best, should you teach either or both, what do you teach students at different ages?
Great questions submitted from our listeners too:
How can I make "So In Love" stop sounding like Puccini?
Do you teach a 16 year old classical AND musical theatre or choose one?
With a new young MT student do you focus on legit or belting?
Gillyanne talks about her PhD research into different genres, and Jeremy has a gentle rant about style, why the notes between F4 and F5 are vital, and vibrato.
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Vocal Process Teacher Accreditation interview playlist - see what our Accredited Teachers have to say about the Accreditation Programme https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYDwxiBt-MOXNxCmRALabELj1fJGtVD_P
Webinar 4 Finding the YOU in every song.
We analyse performances of So In Love sung by Elenor Steber (opera), KD Lang (CCM) and Rachel York (Musical Theater) PLUS we analyse the style differences between Evelyn Tubb (classical) and Sting (CCM) singing Come Again Sweet Love by John Dowland.
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The 12 Hours to Better Singing Teaching course online, with voice coaching techniques, vocal articulation exercises and a LOT more for the up-to-date singing teacher is here https://vocal-process-hub.teachable.com/p/12-hours-to-better-singing-teaching
For the best self-guided learning check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 16 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. Click and scroll down the page for the free previews
https://vocal-process-hub.teachable.com/p/the-vocal-technique-learning-lounge
For real 1-1 attention on your own voice, book a voice coaching session in the singing studio with Jeremy or Gillyanne
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Voice experts Dr Gillyanne Kayes and Jeremy Fisher share their thoughts about classical versus musical theatre.
Is there one technique that works for both?
Is one inherently healthier to sing than the other?
Should we be teaching different genres to young singers?
We have comments and questions sent in by our This Is A Voice podcast listeners too - there are some strong opinions!
We share our own backgrounds and talk about knowing yourself. And why recognising the "filters" through which you view the world is important.
We describe how the knowledge of vocal function might bypass musical taste and expectation, and why we prefer to talk about different balances for different contexts.
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Self-promotion can feel like a dirty word, but as a singing teacher, vocal coach, choir leader or vocal health worker positioned in the arts, how do you show up in the world?
How important is a website today? What should you have on it? How "big" should it be?
We've just updated and upgraded the https://vocalprocess.co.uk website (it's live today) and it's been a fascinating process.
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Because make no mistake, we're all in the business of business.
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Part 2 will be on your CV, your resumé, your Curriculum Vitae. How can you bring it up to date, who is it aimed at and what needs to be in it?
We've also got this! ↓
The 5 Days to Better Singing Teaching course online, with voice coaching techniques, vocal articulation exercises and a LOT more for the up-to-date singing teacher is here https://vocal-process-hub.teachable.com/p/5-days-to-better-singing-teaching
For the best self-guided learning check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 16 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson. Click and scroll down the page for the free previews
https://vocal-process-hub.teachable.com/p/the-vocal-technique-learning-lounge
For real 1-1 attention on your own voice, book a voice coaching session in the singing studio with Jeremy or Gillyanne
https://drgillyannekayesjeremyfisherinspirationsession.as.me/schedule.php
If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort23.
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This Is A Voice - Classical v Musical Theatre part 2 - Advice, techniques and a rant

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This is a voice, a podcast with Dr. Gillyanne Kayes and Jeremy Fisher.

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Hello and welcome to This Is A Voice, season seven, episode two, the podcast where we get Vocal about voice. I'm Jeremy Fisher. And I'm Dr. Gillyanne Kayes. And today we're doing classical versus musical theatre. The revenge part two. The revenge? I didn't agree to that title. I thought it was the return. Uh, we're feeling feisty today. Are we getting Vocal about voi