
There is No Wave Function | Jacob Barandes
11/13/24 • 135 min
In today’s episode, Jacob, a physicist specializing in quantum mechanics, explores groundbreaking ideas on measurement, the role of probabilistic laws, and the foundational principles of quantum theory. With a focus on interdisciplinary approaches, Jacob offers unique insights into the nature of particles, fields, and the evolution of quantum mechanics.
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LINKS MENTIONED:
Wigner’s paper ‘Remarks on the Mind-Body Question’: https://www.informationphilosopher.com/solutions/scientists/wigner/Wigner_Remarks.pdf
Jacob’s lecture on Hilbert Spaces: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmaSAG4J6nw&ab_channel=OxfordPhilosophyofPhysics
John von Neumann’s book on ‘Mathematical Foundations of Quantum Mechanics’: https://amzn.to/48OkeVj
The 1905 Papers (Albert Einstein): https://guides.loc.gov/einstein-annus-mirabilis/1905-papers
Dividing Quantum Channels (paper): https://arxiv.org/pdf/math-ph/0611057
Sean Carroll on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AoRxtYZrZo
Scott Aaronson and Leonard Susskind’s paper on ‘Quantum Necromancy’: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2009.07450
Scott Aaronson on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpGCQoL2Rk
Leonard Susskind on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p_Hlm6aCok
Ekkolapto’s website: https://www.ekkolapto.org/
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Introduction
01:26 - Jacob's Background
07:32 - Pursuing Theoretical Physics
10:28 - Is Consciousness Linked to Quantum Mechanics?
16:07 - Why the Wave Function Might Not Be Real
20:12 - The Schrödinger Equation Explained
23:04 - Higher Dimensions in Quantum Physics
30:11 - Heisenberg’s Matrix Mechanics
35:08 - Schrödinger’s Wave Function and Its Implications
39:57 - Dirac and von Neumann's Quantum Axioms
45:09 - The Problem with Hilbert Spaces
50:02 - Wigner's Friend Paradox
55:06 - Challenges in Defining Measurement in Quantum Mechanics
01:00:17 - Trying to Simplify Quantum for Students
01:03:35 - Bridging Quantum Mechanics with Stochastic Processes
01:05:05 - Discovering Indivisible Stochastic Processes
01:12:03 - Interference and Coherence Explained
01:16:06 - Redefining Measurement and Decoherence
01:18:01 - The Future of Quantum Theory
1:24:09 - Foundationalism and Quantum Theory
1:25:04 - Why Use Indivisible Stochastic Laws?
1:26:10 - The Quantum-Classical Transition
1:27:30 - Classical vs Quantum Probabilities
1:28:36 - Hilbert Space and the Convenience of Amplitudes
1:30:01 - No Special Role for Observers
1:33:40 - Emergence of the Wave Function
1:38:27 - Physicists' Reluctance to Change Foundations
1:43:04 - Resolving Quantum Mechanics' Inconsistencies
1:50:46 - Practical Applications of Indivisible Stochastic Processes
1:57:53 - Understanding Particles in the Indivisible Stochastic Model
2:00:48 - Is There a Fundamental Ontology?
2:07:02 - Advice for Students Entering Physics
2:09:32 - Encouragement for Interdisciplinary Research
2:12:22 - Outro
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In today’s episode, Jacob, a physicist specializing in quantum mechanics, explores groundbreaking ideas on measurement, the role of probabilistic laws, and the foundational principles of quantum theory. With a focus on interdisciplinary approaches, Jacob offers unique insights into the nature of particles, fields, and the evolution of quantum mechanics.
New Substack! Follow my personal writings and EARLY ACCESS episodes here: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com
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LINKS MENTIONED:
Wigner’s paper ‘Remarks on the Mind-Body Question’: https://www.informationphilosopher.com/solutions/scientists/wigner/Wigner_Remarks.pdf
Jacob’s lecture on Hilbert Spaces: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmaSAG4J6nw&ab_channel=OxfordPhilosophyofPhysics
John von Neumann’s book on ‘Mathematical Foundations of Quantum Mechanics’: https://amzn.to/48OkeVj
The 1905 Papers (Albert Einstein): https://guides.loc.gov/einstein-annus-mirabilis/1905-papers
Dividing Quantum Channels (paper): https://arxiv.org/pdf/math-ph/0611057
Sean Carroll on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AoRxtYZrZo
Scott Aaronson and Leonard Susskind’s paper on ‘Quantum Necromancy’: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2009.07450
Scott Aaronson on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpGCQoL2Rk
Leonard Susskind on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p_Hlm6aCok
Ekkolapto’s website: https://www.ekkolapto.org/
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Introduction
01:26 - Jacob's Background
07:32 - Pursuing Theoretical Physics
10:28 - Is Consciousness Linked to Quantum Mechanics?
16:07 - Why the Wave Function Might Not Be Real
20:12 - The Schrödinger Equation Explained
23:04 - Higher Dimensions in Quantum Physics
30:11 - Heisenberg’s Matrix Mechanics
35:08 - Schrödinger’s Wave Function and Its Implications
39:57 - Dirac and von Neumann's Quantum Axioms
45:09 - The Problem with Hilbert Spaces
50:02 - Wigner's Friend Paradox
55:06 - Challenges in Defining Measurement in Quantum Mechanics
01:00:17 - Trying to Simplify Quantum for Students
01:03:35 - Bridging Quantum Mechanics with Stochastic Processes
01:05:05 - Discovering Indivisible Stochastic Processes
01:12:03 - Interference and Coherence Explained
01:16:06 - Redefining Measurement and Decoherence
01:18:01 - The Future of Quantum Theory
1:24:09 - Foundationalism and Quantum Theory
1:25:04 - Why Use Indivisible Stochastic Laws?
1:26:10 - The Quantum-Classical Transition
1:27:30 - Classical vs Quantum Probabilities
1:28:36 - Hilbert Space and the Convenience of Amplitudes
1:30:01 - No Special Role for Observers
1:33:40 - Emergence of the Wave Function
1:38:27 - Physicists' Reluctance to Change Foundations
1:43:04 - Resolving Quantum Mechanics' Inconsistencies
1:50:46 - Practical Applications of Indivisible Stochastic Processes
1:57:53 - Understanding Particles in the Indivisible Stochastic Model
2:00:48 - Is There a Fundamental Ontology?
2:07:02 - Advice for Students Entering Physics
2:09:32 - Encouragement for Interdisciplinary Research
2:12:22 - Outro
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MIT Scientist on Unifying Cognition and Biology | Manolis Kellis
In today’s episode, MIT computational biologist Manolis Kellis dive into the hidden patterns linking DNA, evolution, and cognition, exploring a potential unifying theory that bridges biology, AI, and the essence of life.
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LINKS MENTIONED:
Manolis Kellis’s Lab (website): https://compbio.mit.edu/
Manolis Kellis’s profile: https://web.mit.edu/manoli/
Curt’s article on language: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/language-isnt-just-low-resolution
Chiara Marletto on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uey_mUy1vN0
Roger Penrose on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGm505TFMbU
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Introduction
02:05 - The Scope of Biological Unification
06:02 - Biology vs. Physics
09:31 - DNA as Life’s Language
13:45 - The Universal Compatibility of DNA
16:55 - Evolutionary Trade-Offs and Isolation
20:17 - Layers of Abstraction in Biology
24:51 - Beyond DNA: The Role of Histones
30:30 - Protein Folding and Function
35:26 - How Cells Interpret DNA Signals
40:24 - The Creativity of Language and Miscommunication
44:55 - Teaching and Simplification
51:09 - Evolution of Cognition and Centralized Decision-Making
57:35 - Vertical vs. Horizontal Evolution
1:04:20 - Specialization and Society’s Role in Evolution
1:08:50 - The Future of Biological Understanding
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Julian Barbour: The Physicist Who Says Time Doesn't Exist
In today's episode of Theories of Everything, Curt Jaimungal and Julian Barbour challenge conventional physics by exploring Barbour's revolutionary ideas on time as an emergent property of change, the universe's increasing order contrary to entropy, and the foundational nature of shape dynamics.
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LINKED MENTIONED:
The Janus Point (Julian Barbour’s book): https://www.amazon.com/Janus-Point-New-Theory-Time/dp/0465095461
‘Relational Concepts of Space and Time’ (Julian Barbour’s 1982 paper): https://www.jstor.org/stable/687224
‘The Theory of Gravitation’ (Paul Dirac’s 1958 paper): https://www.jstor.org/stable/100497
Carlo Rovelli on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF4SAketEHY
‘On the Nature of Things’ (book): https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674992009
Leibniz: Philosophical Writings (book): https://www.amazon.com/Leibniz-Philosophical-Writings-Everymans-University/dp/0460119052
Elementary Principles of Statistical Mechanics (book): https://www.amazon.com/Elementary-Principles-Statistical-Mechanics-Physics/dp/0486789950
The interpretations of quantum mechanics in 5 minutes (article): https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/the-interpretations-of-quantum-mechanics
Sean Carroll on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AoRxtYZrZo
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
02:12 - Working Outside of Academia
03:53 - Space, Time, Dimension
10:40 - Mach’s Principle
21:33 - Mach Confused Einstein
24:22 - Two Particle Universe
31:46 - Carlo Rovelli
35:02 - Julian’s Ontology
43:37 - Julian’s Theory ‘Shape Statistics’
51:11 - Leinbiz’s Philosophical Writings
56:14 - Expansion of the Universe (Scale Invariance)
01:05:02 - Cosmological Principle
01:15:34 - Thermodynamics
01:17:15 - Entropy and Complexity
01:30:40 - Wave Function / Double Slit Experiment
01:39:21 - God
01:44:48 - The Role of Instruments
01:47:44 - Etymology of Pattern and Matter
01:51:25 - Join My Substack!
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