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Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal - There is No Wave Function | Jacob Barandes

There is No Wave Function | Jacob Barandes

11/13/24 • 135 min

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

In today’s episode, Jacob, a physicist specializing in quantum mechanics, explores groundbreaking ideas on measurement, the role of probabilistic laws, and the foundational principles of quantum theory. With a focus on interdisciplinary approaches, Jacob offers unique insights into the nature of particles, fields, and the evolution of quantum mechanics.

New Substack! Follow my personal writings and EARLY ACCESS episodes here: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com

SPONSOR (THE ECONOMIST): As a listener of TOE you can get a special 20% off discount to The Economist and all it has to offer! Visit https://www.economist.com/toe

LINKS MENTIONED:

Wigner’s paper ‘Remarks on the Mind-Body Question’: https://www.informationphilosopher.com/solutions/scientists/wigner/Wigner_Remarks.pdf

Jacob’s lecture on Hilbert Spaces: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmaSAG4J6nw&ab_channel=OxfordPhilosophyofPhysics

John von Neumann’s book on ‘Mathematical Foundations of Quantum Mechanics’: https://amzn.to/48OkeVj

The 1905 Papers (Albert Einstein): https://guides.loc.gov/einstein-annus-mirabilis/1905-papers

Dividing Quantum Channels (paper): https://arxiv.org/pdf/math-ph/0611057

Sean Carroll on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AoRxtYZrZo

Scott Aaronson and Leonard Susskind’s paper on ‘Quantum Necromancy’: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2009.07450

Scott Aaronson on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpGCQoL2Rk

Leonard Susskind on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p_Hlm6aCok

Ekkolapto’s website: https://www.ekkolapto.org/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - Introduction

01:26 - Jacob's Background

07:32 - Pursuing Theoretical Physics

10:28 - Is Consciousness Linked to Quantum Mechanics?

16:07 - Why the Wave Function Might Not Be Real

20:12 - The Schrödinger Equation Explained

23:04 - Higher Dimensions in Quantum Physics

30:11 - Heisenberg’s Matrix Mechanics

35:08 - Schrödinger’s Wave Function and Its Implications

39:57 - Dirac and von Neumann's Quantum Axioms

45:09 - The Problem with Hilbert Spaces

50:02 - Wigner's Friend Paradox

55:06 - Challenges in Defining Measurement in Quantum Mechanics

01:00:17 - Trying to Simplify Quantum for Students

01:03:35 - Bridging Quantum Mechanics with Stochastic Processes

01:05:05 - Discovering Indivisible Stochastic Processes

01:12:03 - Interference and Coherence Explained

01:16:06 - Redefining Measurement and Decoherence

01:18:01 - The Future of Quantum Theory

1:24:09 - Foundationalism and Quantum Theory

1:25:04 - Why Use Indivisible Stochastic Laws?

1:26:10 - The Quantum-Classical Transition

1:27:30 - Classical vs Quantum Probabilities

1:28:36 - Hilbert Space and the Convenience of Amplitudes

1:30:01 - No Special Role for Observers

1:33:40 - Emergence of the Wave Function

1:38:27 - Physicists' Reluctance to Change Foundations

1:43:04 - Resolving Quantum Mechanics' Inconsistencies

1:50:46 - Practical Applications of Indivisible Stochastic Processes

1:57:53 - Understanding Particles in the Indivisible Stochastic Model

2:00:48 - Is There a Fundamental Ontology?

2:07:02 - Advice for Students Entering Physics

2:09:32 - Encouragement for Interdisciplinary Research

2:12:22 - Outro

TOE'S TOP LINKS:

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Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt

Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802

Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything

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In today’s episode, Jacob, a physicist specializing in quantum mechanics, explores groundbreaking ideas on measurement, the role of probabilistic laws, and the foundational principles of quantum theory. With a focus on interdisciplinary approaches, Jacob offers unique insights into the nature of particles, fields, and the evolution of quantum mechanics.

New Substack! Follow my personal writings and EARLY ACCESS episodes here: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com

SPONSOR (THE ECONOMIST): As a listener of TOE you can get a special 20% off discount to The Economist and all it has to offer! Visit https://www.economist.com/toe

LINKS MENTIONED:

Wigner’s paper ‘Remarks on the Mind-Body Question’: https://www.informationphilosopher.com/solutions/scientists/wigner/Wigner_Remarks.pdf

Jacob’s lecture on Hilbert Spaces: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmaSAG4J6nw&ab_channel=OxfordPhilosophyofPhysics

John von Neumann’s book on ‘Mathematical Foundations of Quantum Mechanics’: https://amzn.to/48OkeVj

The 1905 Papers (Albert Einstein): https://guides.loc.gov/einstein-annus-mirabilis/1905-papers

Dividing Quantum Channels (paper): https://arxiv.org/pdf/math-ph/0611057

Sean Carroll on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AoRxtYZrZo

Scott Aaronson and Leonard Susskind’s paper on ‘Quantum Necromancy’: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2009.07450

Scott Aaronson on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpGCQoL2Rk

Leonard Susskind on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p_Hlm6aCok

Ekkolapto’s website: https://www.ekkolapto.org/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - Introduction

01:26 - Jacob's Background

07:32 - Pursuing Theoretical Physics

10:28 - Is Consciousness Linked to Quantum Mechanics?

16:07 - Why the Wave Function Might Not Be Real

20:12 - The Schrödinger Equation Explained

23:04 - Higher Dimensions in Quantum Physics

30:11 - Heisenberg’s Matrix Mechanics

35:08 - Schrödinger’s Wave Function and Its Implications

39:57 - Dirac and von Neumann's Quantum Axioms

45:09 - The Problem with Hilbert Spaces

50:02 - Wigner's Friend Paradox

55:06 - Challenges in Defining Measurement in Quantum Mechanics

01:00:17 - Trying to Simplify Quantum for Students

01:03:35 - Bridging Quantum Mechanics with Stochastic Processes

01:05:05 - Discovering Indivisible Stochastic Processes

01:12:03 - Interference and Coherence Explained

01:16:06 - Redefining Measurement and Decoherence

01:18:01 - The Future of Quantum Theory

1:24:09 - Foundationalism and Quantum Theory

1:25:04 - Why Use Indivisible Stochastic Laws?

1:26:10 - The Quantum-Classical Transition

1:27:30 - Classical vs Quantum Probabilities

1:28:36 - Hilbert Space and the Convenience of Amplitudes

1:30:01 - No Special Role for Observers

1:33:40 - Emergence of the Wave Function

1:38:27 - Physicists' Reluctance to Change Foundations

1:43:04 - Resolving Quantum Mechanics' Inconsistencies

1:50:46 - Practical Applications of Indivisible Stochastic Processes

1:57:53 - Understanding Particles in the Indivisible Stochastic Model

2:00:48 - Is There a Fundamental Ontology?

2:07:02 - Advice for Students Entering Physics

2:09:32 - Encouragement for Interdisciplinary Research

2:12:22 - Outro

TOE'S TOP LINKS:

Support TOE on Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal (early access to ad-free audio episodes!)

Listen to TOE on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e

Become a YouTube Member Here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join

Join TOE's Newsletter 'TOEmail' at https://www.curtjaimungal.org

Other Links:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt

Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802

Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything

#science #sciencepodcast #physics

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MIT Scientist on Unifying Cognition and Biology | Manolis Kellis

In today’s episode, MIT computational biologist Manolis Kellis dive into the hidden patterns linking DNA, evolution, and cognition, exploring a potential unifying theory that bridges biology, AI, and the essence of life.

New Substack! Follow my personal writings and EARLY ACCESS episodes here: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com

SPONSOR (THE ECONOMIST): As a listener of TOE you can get a special 20% off discount to The Economist and all it has to offer! Visit https://www.economist.com/toe

LINKS MENTIONED:

Manolis Kellis’s Lab (website): https://compbio.mit.edu/

Manolis Kellis’s profile: https://web.mit.edu/manoli/

Curt’s article on language: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/language-isnt-just-low-resolution

Chiara Marletto on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uey_mUy1vN0

Roger Penrose on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGm505TFMbU

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - Introduction

02:05 - The Scope of Biological Unification

06:02 - Biology vs. Physics

09:31 - DNA as Life’s Language

13:45 - The Universal Compatibility of DNA

16:55 - Evolutionary Trade-Offs and Isolation

20:17 - Layers of Abstraction in Biology

24:51 - Beyond DNA: The Role of Histones

30:30 - Protein Folding and Function

35:26 - How Cells Interpret DNA Signals

40:24 - The Creativity of Language and Miscommunication

44:55 - Teaching and Simplification

51:09 - Evolution of Cognition and Centralized Decision-Making

57:35 - Vertical vs. Horizontal Evolution

1:04:20 - Specialization and Society’s Role in Evolution

1:08:50 - The Future of Biological Understanding

TOE'S TOP LINKS:

Support TOE on Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal (early access to ad-free audio episodes!)

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iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802

Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything

#science #sciencepodcast #physics #biology #consciousness

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Julian Barbour: The Physicist Who Says Time Doesn't Exist

In today's episode of Theories of Everything, Curt Jaimungal and Julian Barbour challenge conventional physics by exploring Barbour's revolutionary ideas on time as an emergent property of change, the universe's increasing order contrary to entropy, and the foundational nature of shape dynamics.

SPONSOR (THE ECONOMIST): As a listener of TOE you can get a special 20% off discount to The Economist and all it has to offer! Visit https://www.economist.com/toe

TOE'S TOP LINKS:

Support TOE on Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal (early access to ad-free audio episodes!)

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Become a YouTube Member Here:

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Join TOE's Newsletter 'TOEmail' at https://www.curtjaimungal.org

LINKED MENTIONED:

The Janus Point (Julian Barbour’s book): https://www.amazon.com/Janus-Point-New-Theory-Time/dp/0465095461

‘Relational Concepts of Space and Time’ (Julian Barbour’s 1982 paper): https://www.jstor.org/stable/687224

‘The Theory of Gravitation’ (Paul Dirac’s 1958 paper): https://www.jstor.org/stable/100497

Carlo Rovelli on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF4SAketEHY

‘On the Nature of Things’ (book): https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674992009

Leibniz: Philosophical Writings (book): https://www.amazon.com/Leibniz-Philosophical-Writings-Everymans-University/dp/0460119052

Elementary Principles of Statistical Mechanics (book): https://www.amazon.com/Elementary-Principles-Statistical-Mechanics-Physics/dp/0486789950

The interpretations of quantum mechanics in 5 minutes (article): https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/the-interpretations-of-quantum-mechanics

Sean Carroll on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AoRxtYZrZo

Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction

02:12 - Working Outside of Academia

03:53 - Space, Time, Dimension

10:40 - Mach’s Principle

21:33 - Mach Confused Einstein

24:22 - Two Particle Universe

31:46 - Carlo Rovelli

35:02 - Julian’s Ontology

43:37 - Julian’s Theory ‘Shape Statistics’

51:11 - Leinbiz’s Philosophical Writings

56:14 - Expansion of the Universe (Scale Invariance)

01:05:02 - Cosmological Principle

01:15:34 - Thermodynamics

01:17:15 - Entropy and Complexity

01:30:40 - Wave Function / Double Slit Experiment

01:39:21 - God

01:44:48 - The Role of Instruments

01:47:44 - Etymology of Pattern and Matter

01:51:25 - Join My Substack!

Other Links:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt

Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802

Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything

#science #sciencepodcast #physics #theoreticalphysics #time #space #dimensions

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