
Diana Pasulka on Religion, Atheism, Heidegger, Jung, and the Dark Night of the Soul #DisTOEsure
05/19/22 • 199 min
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Professor of Religion Diana Pasulka discusses Jung, Heidegger, and the recent UFO hearings
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-Dark Night of the Soul podcast (with Chloe Valdary interviewing Curt): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfJ20TNpNU
-Karl Friston podcast (most important TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M
-Thomas Campbell on TOE: https://youtu.be/kko-hVA-8IU is part 1 and part 2 is also on the channel.
-Tupacabra Twitter: https://twitter.com/TUPACABRA2
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:24 Diana's journey from "atheist" ⇒ "agnostic" (with respect to the phenomenon)
00:07:17 Nuns who saw orbs, every night, then prayed...
00:11:45 What are "beliefs"?
00:12:27 Atheists who believe in God
00:19:50 Spiritual vs Religious (and the Secularization thesis)
00:22:58 UFOs (or the belief in) are like a religion
00:29:37 Psychedelics and religion
00:37:01 Getting flack because of covering the phenomenon
00:39:42 To the skeptics: it's rational to believe in UFOs
00:47:38 Atheism is NOT like a religion, though it can be dogmatic
00:49:18 It's false to say "religions tell you what to think"
00:55:03 The case for dogma
01:01:06 Heidegger on technology not being just another tool
01:06:04 Heidegger and Jacques Vallée
01:10:03 Why do those who study the phenomenon tend to be Catholic?
01:13:49 How the Vatican views UFOs
01:15:12 Are religious stories interpreting UFOs, or are we interpreting UFOs materialistically?
01:20:05 Near Death Experiences, UFOs, and Dean Radin
01:22:35 How the CIA / DOD / etc. work (the nefarious strategies)
01:26:57 What Diana uncovered, that she shouldn't have
01:29:45 Roswell and the Promethean myth
01:31:10 The dangers (and reality) of CE5
01:33:48 Bob Lazar is considered credible by many, behind the scenes
01:36:02 Protecting yourself against disinformation
01:38:08 Academic Openness vs. Governmental Closedness
01:42:39 SpaceX, and writing in Latin for "them"
01:48:18 The president is a "short timer" (this is why he / she isn't told the truth)
01:49:02 Who is Tyler? Why is he significant?
01:50:48 Does the gov't believe they understand what's behind UFOs?
01:52:01 We're dealing with MULTIPLE phenomenon, not just one
01:52:51 Biblically accurate angels
01:55:26 Physical evidence pertaining to purgatory
01:57:36 What's the point in collocating UFOs with religion?
02:02:10 Who is the modern Heidegger?
02:05:21 Jung and UFOs
02:08:00 Plato's Cave and the view that certain people have shackled us
02:12:54 Sangha as The Answer to deception
02:18:46 Rediscovering meaning, Heidegger, Weinstein, and the TOE project
02:22:09 Experiential vs Analytical approach to understanding God
02:24:52 Lovecraft, and the perils of an "open mind"
02:27:14 Epistermic Shock vs Ontological Shock
02:38:10 The importance of Sangha
02:41:21 [Juliano Vargas] Reconciling religion with ET (and does ET believe in a Supreme Creator?)
02:42:15 [Numb Her Two] How has Diana's faith been affected?
02:44:27 Why does the Hitchhiker effect occur?
02:45:32 Angels... Demons... What is the THIRD (religiously interpreted) option?
02:46:45 Rosicrucianism and Gnosticism
02:50:52 Kurzweil's Singularity / Omega Point / UAPs
02:55:14 Jung and the UFO archetype (continued)
02:56:10 UFO hearings (May 2022)
03:00:23 [Tupacabra] Catholic Church, Remote Viewing, Thomas Campbell, and Jacques Vallée
03:05:54 Podcasts being sanctioned behind the scenes for disclosure #DisTOEsure
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YouTube link: https://youtu.be/E5MuTHUbMUs
Professor of Religion Diana Pasulka discusses Jung, Heidegger, and the recent UFO hearings
Sponsors
-Brilliant: https://brilliant.org/TOE for 20% off
Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal
Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs
iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802
Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything
Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch
LINKS MENTIONED:
-American Cosmic (Diana's book): https://amzn.to/3MsaOmI
-American Cosmic (Diana's book): https://amzn.to/3FWYCaW
-Fatima Trilogy (a book Diana references): https://amzn.to/3wDGoao
-Dark Night of the Soul podcast (with Chloe Valdary interviewing Curt): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfJ20TNpNU
-Karl Friston podcast (most important TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M
-Thomas Campbell on TOE: https://youtu.be/kko-hVA-8IU is part 1 and part 2 is also on the channel.
-Tupacabra Twitter: https://twitter.com/TUPACABRA2
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:24 Diana's journey from "atheist" ⇒ "agnostic" (with respect to the phenomenon)
00:07:17 Nuns who saw orbs, every night, then prayed...
00:11:45 What are "beliefs"?
00:12:27 Atheists who believe in God
00:19:50 Spiritual vs Religious (and the Secularization thesis)
00:22:58 UFOs (or the belief in) are like a religion
00:29:37 Psychedelics and religion
00:37:01 Getting flack because of covering the phenomenon
00:39:42 To the skeptics: it's rational to believe in UFOs
00:47:38 Atheism is NOT like a religion, though it can be dogmatic
00:49:18 It's false to say "religions tell you what to think"
00:55:03 The case for dogma
01:01:06 Heidegger on technology not being just another tool
01:06:04 Heidegger and Jacques Vallée
01:10:03 Why do those who study the phenomenon tend to be Catholic?
01:13:49 How the Vatican views UFOs
01:15:12 Are religious stories interpreting UFOs, or are we interpreting UFOs materialistically?
01:20:05 Near Death Experiences, UFOs, and Dean Radin
01:22:35 How the CIA / DOD / etc. work (the nefarious strategies)
01:26:57 What Diana uncovered, that she shouldn't have
01:29:45 Roswell and the Promethean myth
01:31:10 The dangers (and reality) of CE5
01:33:48 Bob Lazar is considered credible by many, behind the scenes
01:36:02 Protecting yourself against disinformation
01:38:08 Academic Openness vs. Governmental Closedness
01:42:39 SpaceX, and writing in Latin for "them"
01:48:18 The president is a "short timer" (this is why he / she isn't told the truth)
01:49:02 Who is Tyler? Why is he significant?
01:50:48 Does the gov't believe they understand what's behind UFOs?
01:52:01 We're dealing with MULTIPLE phenomenon, not just one
01:52:51 Biblically accurate angels
01:55:26 Physical evidence pertaining to purgatory
01:57:36 What's the point in collocating UFOs with religion?
02:02:10 Who is the modern Heidegger?
02:05:21 Jung and UFOs
02:08:00 Plato's Cave and the view that certain people have shackled us
02:12:54 Sangha as The Answer to deception
02:18:46 Rediscovering meaning, Heidegger, Weinstein, and the TOE project
02:22:09 Experiential vs Analytical approach to understanding God
02:24:52 Lovecraft, and the perils of an "open mind"
02:27:14 Epistermic Shock vs Ontological Shock
02:38:10 The importance of Sangha
02:41:21 [Juliano Vargas] Reconciling religion with ET (and does ET believe in a Supreme Creator?)
02:42:15 [Numb Her Two] How has Diana's faith been affected?
02:44:27 Why does the Hitchhiker effect occur?
02:45:32 Angels... Demons... What is the THIRD (religiously interpreted) option?
02:46:45 Rosicrucianism and Gnosticism
02:50:52 Kurzweil's Singularity / Omega Point / UAPs
02:55:14 Jung and the UFO archetype (continued)
02:56:10 UFO hearings (May 2022)
03:00:23 [Tupacabra] Catholic Church, Remote Viewing, Thomas Campbell, and Jacques Vallée
03:05:54 Podcasts being sanctioned behind the scenes for disclosure #DisTOEsure
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LINKS MENTIONED:
Sabine Hossenfelder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP5G20ImveU
Andrew Dotson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5NKHsOzvAc
Pretty Much Physics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cQqRYVA3Ms
Nima's Lecture: https://youtu.be/nVO4I3D38O0
Richard Borcherds' YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIyDqfi_cbkp-RU20aBF-MQ
Norman Wildberger's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/njwildberger
Conversion Chart #1: http://www.phys.ufl.edu/~korytov/phz4390/note_01_NaturalUnits_SMsummary.pdf
Conversion Chart #2: http://www.saha.ac.in/theory/palashbaran.pal/conv.html
Quantum Gravity podcast (Salvatore Pais): https://youtu.be/5E6QyAhTB3o?t=3057
On Enthymemes (Lue Elizondo): https://youtu.be/wULw64ZL1Bg?t=6971
Carlo Rovelli podcast: https://youtu.be/r_fUPbBNmBw
Stephen Wolfram's TOE: https://youtu.be/1sXrRc3Bhrs
Eric Weinstein podcast: https://youtu.be/KElq_MLO1kw
String Theory podcast (Stephon Alexander): https://youtu.be/VETxb96a3qk
QFT and Knot Theory podcast (Dror Bar Natan): https://youtu.be/rJz_Badd43c
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00:02:07 The What: What to expect to learn in this video
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00:26:09 Conversion equations
00:40:09 Newton's constant / Entropy / Why speed is "dimensionless"
00:47:56 A Neutron star's pressure
00:49:16 Proportionate strengths of forces / "Wave function" is not a function
00:54:41 Knots / Extra dimensions
01:02:41 Inside Microtubules / Consciousness / Penrose's theory
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01:14:01 Calculating with the Schwinger Limit / Superforce
01:21:41 Annihilating electron - positron pairs / Quantum gravity / Black holes
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01:41:12 Cutting a solid / How "special relativity" challenges what it means to "exist"
01:42:25 Laconically deriving the Casimir Pressure falloff / Rigor in math and physics
01:44:35 Analyzing the Sun
01:36:31 The size of Earth (derivation from fundamental constants)
01:46:16 Intuiting the radius of an electron / Classical Mechanics break down
01:31:51 On why we use X Rays to probe solid matter
01:51:33 Scales of the LHC / God particle
01:53:18 Summary
01:54:21 What's next?
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