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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

Harry Stebbings

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) interviews the world's greatest venture capitalists with prior guests including Sequoia's Doug Leone and Benchmark's Bill Gurley. Once per week, 20VC Host, Harry Stebbings is also joined by one of the great founders of our time with prior founder episodes from Spotify's Daniel Ek, Linkedin's Reid Hoffman, and Snowflake's Frank Slootman. If you would like to see more of The Twenty Minute VC (20VC), head to www.20vc.com for more information on the podcast, show notes, resources and more.
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David Friedberg is Founder and CEO of The Production Board (TPB), a holding company established to solve the most fundamental problems that affect our planet, by reimagining global systems of production. Prior to founding The Production Board, David founded The Climate Corporation, a 10-year journey that culminated in their $930M acquisition by Monsanto. If that was not enough, David is the Founder and Chairman at Metromile and also sits on the board of Soylent, Clara Foods, Tillable, Cana Technologies and more.

In Today’s Episode with David Friedberg You Will Learn:

1.) Origins:

  • How David made his way into the world of startups and technology from academia and physics?
  • What were David's biggest takeaways from scaling The Climate Corp to $930M exit to Monsanto?
  • How did the exit put pressure on David for all future companies he builds? How does he manage that?

2.) The Macro: Venture + The Economy

  • How does David foresee the impending rate hikes? What impact will this have on venture and the economy?
  • What segment of the market will be first to be hit? Why is growth investing last to be hit? How does early stage play out in this very new environment?
  • How will we see the velocity of capital deployment change in this new period? What does David believe are some of the crucial flaws of the venture model?
  • How does David reflect on his own price sensitivity? What lessons has he learned from deals he has done or missed that have changed his perspective?

3.) David Frankel: The Business Builder

  • What is David's rubrik for business value creation? How has this changed with time?
  • How mentally plastic does one have to be around the time it takes to see margins, unit economics etc change from negative to positive?
  • How does David and the team approach building new companies at TPB? Where do they find the founding teams? How do they incentivise them?
  • How does TPB approach continuous funding for the companies they create? What milestones need to be hit? How do they assess them?
  • How does David approach liquidity with regards to exits for the companies they create? Why does their holding company structure mean they have different incentives to VCs?

4.) David Friedberg: Father and Husband

  • How does David reflect on his own relationship to money today? How has it changed over time?
  • What have been David's biggest realisations on what provides him true happiness?
  • How did having children change his operating mentality? What does being a great father mean to David?
Item’s Mentioned In Today’s Episode with David Friedberg

David’s Favourite Book: Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind

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Sahil Bloom is the Founding Partner @ SRB Ventures, a $10M fund that leverages the 500K followers Sahil has amassed to invest at the intersection of venture and media. Previously, Sahil spent 7 years at a large investment fund managing >$3.5 billion in capital and serves on the board of 4 companies. He has also been an active angel investor in over 30 companies.

In Today’s Episode with Sahil Bloom You Will Learn:

1.) How Sahil made his way from a career in traditional finance to building a media company and leveraging that to raise the latest SRB fund? How does Sahil advise others is the best way to "find their zone of genius"?

2.) How To Build a Media Engine:

  • What have been some of Sahil's biggest lessons on what works on Twiter and what does not work?
  • What is the golden rule for Twitter?
  • How does Sahil plan and come up with ideas for his Twitter threads? What tools and software does he use? How long does each thread take?

3.) The End of the Road for Traditional Venture:

  • Why does Sahil think traditional venture is dying?
  • What newcomers will take the place of the existing incumbents?
  • Why does he think they are weak? What do new players provide that they do not?
  • Which existing players will remain and be strong? Which will fade out?
  • Does Sahil believe that VCs really provide any value?

4.) SRB Ventures:

  • Why did Sahil decide to raise the new fund?
  • How did he decide on size of the fund? What is the strategy? What is the portfolio construction?
  • How does SRB provide media services others do not?
  • How did Sahil meet Tim Cook and get him to invest in the fund?
  • What is the biggest thing Sahil believes most people misunderstand about luck?
Item’s Mentioned In Today’s Episode with Sahil Bloom

Sahil’s Favourite Book: When Breath Becomes Air: Kalanithi Paul

Sahil’s Most Recent Investment: Wander

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20VC: Bill Gurley and Howard Marks: What Happened In 2020? What Can We Expect Looking Forward to 2021?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

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01/04/21 • 41 min

Howard Marks is co-chairman and co-founder of Oaktree Capital Management, a leading investment firm with more than $120 billion in assets. Prior to founding Oaktree, Howard spent 10 years at The TCW Group, where he was responsible for investments in distressed debt, high yield bonds, and convertible securities. Howard has also written two books, most recently Mastering the Market Cycle: Getting the Odds on Your Side, and it was Warren Buffet who said, “When I see memos from Howard Marks in my mail, they’re the first thing I open and read. I always learn something.”

Bill Gurley is a General Partner @ Benchmark Capital, one of the most successful funds of the last decade with a portfolio including the likes of Uber, Twitter, Dropbox, WeWork, Snapchat, StitchFix, eBay and many many more. As for Bill, widely recognised as one of the greats of our time having worked with the likes of GrubHub, NextDoor, Uber, OpenTable, Stitch Fix and Zillow. Prior to Benchmark, Bill was a partner with Hummer Winblad Venture Partners. Before entering venture, Bill spent four years on Wall Street as a top-ranked research analyst, including three years at CS First Boston.

In Today’s Episode You Will Learn:

1.) In March Ray Dalio stated we would be entering a "global recession", how do Howard and Bill feel about this statement? How does today's environment remind Howard and Bill of 2010/11? What is similar? What is different? How does Bill think about investing through cycles?

2.) How does Bill think about investing through cycles? What have Bill's lessons been from seeing many venture vintages on LP performance across cycles? How does Howard think about investing through cycles from a distressed debt perspective? What have his lessons been from Oaktree's performance over the years?

3.) Do Howard and Bill agree we will not see interest rates go anywhere for the next 3-5 years? What is the impact of this sustained low-interest rate environment? What could be done that would see interest rates increase in the future? How does Bill believe this will impact the supply of LP dollars in venture?

4.) How do Bill and Howard evaluate the state of the public markets today? Why does Howard believe that FOMO has really taken effect? How does Bill think about network effects and the laws of compounding with regards to public companies?

5.) Do Howard and Bill agree we are seeing a retreat from globalisation? What are the core impacts of this retreat? Why is Bill so concerned about "regulatory capture"? Why does Bill fear that today, "Washington is for sale"? What would he like to see change?

Item’s Mentioned In Today’s Episode

Howard’s Favourite Book: Across That Bridge: A Vision for Change and the Future of America

Bill’s Favourite Book: How Innovation Works

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Oliver Jay (OJ) is one of the most successful sales leaders of the last decade. Most recently, OJ spent 6 years at Asana where he was hired as the company's first revenue leader. As CRO, OJ was responsible for product-led and sales-led revenue and grew the team from less than 20 to over 450. Before Asana, OJ spent 4 years at Dropbox in a period of hyper-scaling for the business where OJ was Head of APAC and LATAM. At Dropbox, OJ scaled the sales team from 0 to 50 while tripling ARR. If that was not enough, OJ is also an independent board member at Grab, the leading Super app in Southeast Asia.

In Today’s Episode with Oliver Jay You Will Learn:

1.) Entry into Sales:

  • How did OJ make his way into sales with Dropbox?
  • If OJ were to choose 1-2 lessons from his time at Dropbox and Asana that have stayed with him, what would they be? How did they impact his mindset?
  • What were some of the non-obvious but crucial things Asana and Dropbox did in sales that led to success?

2.) The Playbook:

  • Why does OG disagree with so many definitions of "the sales playbook"? What is the sales playbook to OJ? What are the different chapters?
  • Should the founder be the one to create the sales playbook?
  • What are the signs that the founder has a repeatable and scalable playbook?
  • When is the right time to hire the first sales rep? Should it be a Head of Sales or Sales Rep?
  • How does the first hire depend on whether you are PLG or enterprise sales led?

3.) The Hiring Process:

  • How does OJ structure the hiring process?
  • How does OJ know the qualities that he wants to uncover in each candidate?
  • What questions does OJ ask to unpack whether the candidate has those qualities?
  • How does this differ when hiring sales reps vs sales leaders?
  • How does OJ use the sales demo to test the quality of a candidate? What does he want to see?
  • Who does OJ bring into the interview process? When do they get involved?
  • What are two questions that will immediately tell whether someone is a good manager?

4.) Sales Onboarding:

  • How does OJ segment sales onboarding into 3 crucial steps?
  • Chapter 1: Support: Why does OJ believe it is so important for reps to spend their first week with support? What should they look to learn? What questions should they be asking?
  • Chapter 2: Market Knowledge: How can sales leaders teach and educate new reps on market landscape, dynamics and competition? Why does this have to come before sales training?
  • Chapter 3: Sales Training: In the final step, what does the sales training process? What does OJ look for in the final sales demo? When does OJ let reps speak to customers? How does this differ when comparing enterprise to PLG?
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Kayvon Beykpour is one of the most prominent product leaders of the last decade. For the last 7 years, Kayvon has been at Twitter where he led all of the teams across Product, Engineering, Design, Research and Customer Service & Operations. Kayvon came to Twitter through Periscope, the live broadcasting app that raised from GV, Bessemer, Scott Belsky and was ultimately acquired by Twitter in 2015. If that was not enough, Kayvon is also an active angel investor today.

In Today's Episode with Kayvon Beykpour You Will Learn:

1.) Entry into Product:

  • How did Kayvon make his way into the world of tech and come to be Head of Consumer Product @ Twitter?
  • What were some of Kayvon's biggest lessons from the journey with Periscope?
  • What were some of Kayvon's biggest takeaways from working closely with Scott Belsky?

2.) Building Your Product Team:

  • How does Kayvon advise on your first product hires? Should it be Head of Product or more junior product team members?
  • When is the right time for the founder to hand off some core product decisions to these hires?
  • What are the core traits and characteristics of some of the best first product hires?

3.) Perfecting the Hiring Process for Product Teams:

  • How does Kayvon approach the hiring process for all new product team members?
  • What are the stages? What does he look to learn at each stage?
  • What questions reveal the most in product candidates? How do the best respond?
  • How does Kayvon use case studies and product demos in the process?

4.) Building Product: 101:

  • How does Kayvon approach product reviews? Who is invited? Who sets the agenda? How often?
  • What have been Kayvon's biggest lessons about what leaders need to do to get the most from their product teams? How do they communicate?
  • What has been one of Kayvon's biggest product mistakes? What did he learn?
  • How does Kayvon advise founders on when to give up on a new product vs when to iterate and persist?
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Kyle Parrish is VP Sales @ Figma, the company that connects everyone in the design process so teams can deliver better products, faster. At Figma, Kyle built the sales engine from scratch to today, with over 100 incredible people in sales. Before Figma, Kyle spent over 5 years at Dropbox in numerous different roles including Head of Sales, where he scaled the Austin, Texas office from 3 to over 80 people to Global Partnerships lead, where he was responsible for growing Dropbox’s partner ecosystem.

In Today’s Episode with Kyle Parrish You Will Learn:

1.) How Kyle first made his way into the world of sales and came to be one of the 3 performing sales reps in a 300+ sales team? How that led to his joining the hypergrowth journey of Dropbox? What led Kyle to make the move from Dropbox to the rocketship that is Figma?

2.) When and Who: Does the founder need to be the person to create the sales playbook? How can a founder know whether it is right to hire sales reps or a Head of Sales first? In terms of ARR, is there a time when you have to have a Head of Sales? Does Kyle agree with Jason Lemkin in terms of bringing in reps, two at a time? Where do founders make the biggest mistakes when it comes to the timing of these hires?

3.) How To Know and Test: What non-obvious characteristics do 10x sales hires have? What questions or case studies does Kyle find to be most revealing in identifying these non-obvious traits? How should founders structure the process for new reps and a Head of Sales? Meeting by meeting, what should we look to achieve?

4.) Setting Up for Success: What does the ideal onboarding process look like for new sales reps? What tasks and processes would Kyle expect new reps to complete within the first month or two on the job? What are the clearest signs of a new rep hire not working out? How should founders approach 1-1 and 360 reviews with their new reps?

5.) Working Together: What is the ideal relationship between the founder and the new Head of Sales? How often should they meet? What should the founder expect from the new Head of Sales? How should the Head of Sales work with the Head of Marketing most efficiently?

Item’s Mentioned In Today’s Episode with Kyle Parrish

Kyle's Favourite Sales Blog Post: The Sales Learning Curve

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Eric Liaw is a General Partner @ IVP, one of the leading later-stage venture capital and growth equity firms of the last decade with $8.7 billion of committed capital and a 40-year IRR of 43.1%. At IVP eric has led investments in Datadog, Github, Klarna, Robinhood and UiPath to name a few. Prior to joining IVP, Eric was with Technology Crossover Ventures (TCV) and was actively involved in originating, executing and managing investments, including Netflix, Zillow and eHarmony. As a result of his investing success, Eric was recognized by GrowthCap as one of the Top 25 Software Investors of 2021 and 2020.

In Today’s Episode with Eric Liaw You Will Learn:

1.) Origins into Venture:

  • How did Eric make his way into the world of venture way back over 20 years ago?
  • What were some of Eric's biggest lessons from his early years at TCV?
  • What are the most significant changes in venture over the last decade?

2.) Eric Liaw: The Investor:

  • How has Eric changed as an investor over the last decade? What caused those changes?
  • How does Eric reflect on his own relationship to price? How does he determine when to pay up vs when to remain disciplined?
  • What has been Eric's biggest miss? How did it alter his style of investing?
  • From UiPath to Supercell, what has been Eric's favourite story of travelling around the world to win a deal?

3.) The Market: Venture

  • How does Eric expect IPO markets to behave as we move further in 2022?
  • How does Eric expect large M&A to play out for the rest of the year?
  • With the public markets crashing; how does this impact the large growth rounds of 2021?
  • What does Eric expect to happen to early stage pricing with the crash at late stage?
  • How does Eric expect crossover funds to behave in this new environment?

4.) Eric Liaw: The Person

  • How does Eric think about being an awesome Dad and also not losing an inch on being a world class investor?
  • How does Eric reflect on his own ego when having such large investing wins? Where does he feel he is most insecure?
  • How did having children really impact his mindset towards investing and working with founders?
Item’s Mentioned In Today’s Episode with Eric Liaw

Eric’s Favourite Book: No Rules Rules: Netflix and the Culture of Reinvention

Eric’s Most Recent Investment: Aiven

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Mark Cuban is a serial entrepreneur, investor, and owner of the Dallas Mavericks. Today we are focused on Mark's latest entrepreneurial endeavor, starting Mark Cuban's Cost Plus Drug Company, the online pharmacy taking out the middlemen, meaning no price games and huge drug savings. As mentioned, Mark is also the proud owner of Dallas Mavericks, since his taking over they have competed in the NBA Finals for the first time in franchise history in 2006 – and became NBA World Champions in 2011. Before Dallas Mavericks, Mark co-founded Broadcast.com – streaming audio over the internet. In just four short years, Broadcast.com (then Audionet) was sold to Yahoo for $5.6 billion dollars. If that was not enough, Mark is also one of ABC’s “Sharks” on the hit show Shark Tank.

In Today’s Episode with Mark Cuban You Will Learn:

1.) Cost Plus Drugs: Origin

  • Why Mark decided to build Cost Plus Drugs?
  • Why has no one done it before?
  • How does Mark think about resource and time allocation with Cost Plus?

2.) Building the Team: Hiring

  • How does mark analyze his approach to hiring? Where is he weak? Where is he strong?
  • What one motto does Mark always use when it comes to hiring?
  • What is the most common mistake Mark sees founders make when it comes to team build?
  • How does Mark identify stress removers? What are the core signals?

3.) Brand + Capital + Business Strategy:

  • Why is the current cost structure of healthcare so damaged in the US? How does Cost Plus change this?
  • How does Mark think about what it takes to build great brand today? Why will Cost Plus not be doing big TV and traditional media advertising?
  • What types of guerilla marketing is Mark most excited by? Why will Mark never have a billboard in Times Square?

4.) AMA with Mark Cuban:

  • What 3 traits does Mark most want his children to adopt?
  • What worries Mark most today?
  • What are Mark's biggest strengths? What are his biggest weaknesses?
  • What single purchase has brought Mark the greatest joy?
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Aparna Chennapragada is Chief Product Officer @ Robinhood, the company revolutionizing consumer finance with commission-free investing, and tools to help shape your financial future. As for Aparna, prior to Robinhood, she spent an incredible 12 years at Google, most recently as VP and GM for Consumer Shopping and also as the lead AR and Visual Search products. Aparna is also an active angel investor with a portfolio including Khatabook, Statsig and On Deck to name a few. If that was not enough, Aparna is also a board member at Capital One.

In Today’s Episode with Aparna Chennapragada You Will Learn:

1.) Origins in Product:

  • How Aparna made her way into the world of product and product management?
  • What were Aparna's biggest takeaways from her 12 years at Google?
  • What does product management mean to Arpana today?

2.) Customer Discovery: 101

  • What are the 3 different stages of product management?
  • What does great customer discovery look like?
  • What are the best questions to ask? How should one dig deeper?
  • Where do so many make mistakes in customer discovery?
  • What should product people take from the answers? What should they disregard?

3.) The Hiring Process:

  • How should founders breakdown the process of hiring for their first in product?
  • What does the interview process look like? How should founders structure it?
  • What core questions should teams ask of prospective candidates?
  • What are red flags when interviewing potential product hires?
  • What literal tests and case studies can founders do to test the quality of candidates?

4.) The Onboarding Process:

  • How should founders structure the onboarding process for new product hires?
  • What can founders do to make PMs successful in their first 30 days?
  • Where do many product hires make the biggest mistakes in the first 30 days?
  • What can product hires do to build trust with their new team?

Items Mentioned in Today's Episode with Aparna Chennapragada

Aparna's Fave Resource: Shishir's Executive Onboarding

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Thomas Tull is a leading entrepreneur and investor as the Founder, Chairman and CEO of Tulco, LLC. he has made notable investments in the likes of FIGS, Colossal, IL MAKIAGE, Pinterest, Zoox and Oculus Rift. Previously, Tull was the founder, CEO and Chairman of Legendary Entertainment, the film company that produced blockbusters including The Dark Knight trilogy, 300 and The Hangover franchise. Outside of his investment work, Thomas is a trustee of Carnegie Mellon University, Yellowstone Forever, the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum, and the Smithsonian Institution. If that was not enough, Tull is also part of the ownership group of the Pittsburgh Steelers, the six-time Super Bowl champions.

In Today’s Episode with Thomas Tull You Will Learn:

1.) From Laundromats to Legendary Entertainment:

  • How did Thomas first make his way into the world of business starting with laundromats?
  • How did growing up without money impact Thomas' early mindset?
  • What advice does Thomas give to young people today on starting their own business?

2.) Thomas Tull: The Investor:

  • How does Thomas approach risk today? Where is the boundary of acceptable vs unacceptable risk?
  • How does Thomas assess his own relationship to money? How has it changed over time?
  • How does Thomas protect himself from people and occasions where one is being used for their money or status?
  • To what extent does Thomas believe success is luck vs skill?

3.) Legendary Entertainment:

  • How did Thomas make his way into the movie business with the founding of Legendary Entertainment?
  • How did Thomas first meet Chris Nolan? What did the early days of making Batman Begins look like?
  • What were some of the most memorable times from making 300 with Gerard Butler?
  • What were some of the most challenging elements of scaling Legendary? With the benefit of hindsight, is there anything that Thomas would do differently?

4.) The Macro:

  • Why does Thomas believe public markets are the least rational they have ever been?
  • From geo politics to climate change, what is Thomas most worried about today in the world?
  • What does Thomas believe we should focus on as positives moving forward? What should we be excited about?
Item’s Mentioned In Today’s Episode with Thomas Tull

Thomas' Favourite Book: Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind

Thomas' Most Recent Investment: Colossal

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Interesting interviews with some world class VCs and entrepreneurs. Some of the quick editing cuts are a bit jarring so I wish it was edited a little bit better. But still, an overall strong podcast.

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