
Kyle Strobel and Jamin Goggin, Part 1: Why the Church’s Problem With Power Is Not ‘Over There’
02/14/24 • 33 min
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Dr. Kyle Strobel and Dr. Jamin Goggin join “The Stetzer ChurchLeaders Podcast” to discuss what God has taught them about his way to power and why every ministry leader must wrestle with what their view of power actually is.
Last week, Pushpay CEO Molly Matthews joined us to share the latest findings from Pushpay’s “State of Church Tech” report and what the research reveals about the technological opportunities available to churches. Check out our conversation with her here:
https://churchleaders.com/podcast/468289-pushpay-ceo-molly-matthews-state-church-tech.html
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“The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb: Searching for Jesus’ Path of Power in a Church That Has Abandoned It” by Dr. Kyle Strobel and Dr. Jamin Goggin
Center for Christian Formation
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Get notes on this podcast here:
https://churchleaders.com/podcast/469144-kyle-strobel-jamin-goggin-part-1-churchs-problem-power.html
Dr. Kyle Strobel and Dr. Jamin Goggin join “The Stetzer ChurchLeaders Podcast” to discuss what God has taught them about his way to power and why every ministry leader must wrestle with what their view of power actually is.
Last week, Pushpay CEO Molly Matthews joined us to share the latest findings from Pushpay’s “State of Church Tech” report and what the research reveals about the technological opportunities available to churches. Check out our conversation with her here:
https://churchleaders.com/podcast/468289-pushpay-ceo-molly-matthews-state-church-tech.html
► Listen on Apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-churchleaders-podcast/id988990685
Visit ChurchLeaders Website: https://churchleaders.com
Find ChurchLeaders on Facebook: https://facebook.com/churchleaders
Follow ChurchLeaders on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/ChurchLead
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“The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb: Searching for Jesus’ Path of Power in a Church That Has Abandoned It” by Dr. Kyle Strobel and Dr. Jamin Goggin
Center for Christian Formation
Follow Jamin on Facebook, Instagram, and X/Twitter Follow Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and X/Twitter
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Molly Matthews Shares Key Findings From the 'State of Church Tech' Report
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https://churchleaders.com/podcast/468289-pushpay-ceo-molly-matthews-state-church-tech.html
Pushpay CEO Molly Matthews joins “The Stetzer ChurchLeaders Podcast” to share the latest findings from Pushpay’s “State of Church Tech” report and what the research reveals about the technological opportunities available to churches.
Last week, Tim Chaddick joined us to share what he learned about engaging people in secular spaces as a result of his church planting experiences in Hollywood and London. Check out our conversation with him here:
https://churchleaders.com/podcast/467485-tim-chaddick-church-planting-hollywood-london.html
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"State of Church Technology" report from Pushpay
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Kyle Strobel and Jamin Goggin, Part 2: How To Embrace God’s Vision for Power in Ministry
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https://churchleaders.com/podcast/469972-kyle-strobel-jamin-goggin-part-2-gods-vision-power.html
Kyle Strobel and Jamin Goggin wrap up their conversation on “The Stetzer ChurchLeaders Podcast,” offering pastors ways to help guard against the misuse of power in ministry and encouraging them to persevere.
Last week, Kyle and Jamin shared how God taught them about his way to power and why all ministry leaders must wrestle with what their view of power actually is. Check out the first part of our conversation with them here:
https://churchleaders.com/podcast/469144-kyle-strobel-jamin-goggin-part-1-churchs-problem-power.html
► Listen on Apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-churchleaders-podcast/id988990685
Visit ChurchLeaders Website: https://churchleaders.com
Find ChurchLeaders on Facebook: https://facebook.com/churchleaders
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“The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb: Searching for Jesus’ Path of Power in a Church That Has Abandoned It” by Dr. Kyle Strobel and Dr. Jamin Goggin
Center for Christian Formation
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