The St.Emlyn’s Podcast

The round up of the St Emlyn's blog posts in August 2021, featuring discussion about therapeutic anticoagulation in hospitalised COVID-19 patients, non invasive ventilation vs usual care for critically hypoxic COVID-19 patients and the recent EMTA (Emergency Medicine Trainees Association) survey. Oh, and Simon's mid-life crisis.

Welcome to our second webinar on recent research about COVID-19, hosted by the University of Manchester, Manchester Royal Infirmary and Royal College of Emergency Medicine in collaboration with St Emlyn’s.

The panel was hosted by Rick Body. The panel includes Prof Paul Klapper (Professor of Clinical Virology), Dr Charlie Reynard (NIHR Clinical Research Fellow), Prof Pam Vallely (Professor of Medical Virology), Dr Anisa Jafar (Academic Clinical Lecturer), Dr Casey Parker and Prof Simon Carley (you know him...) to discuss six papers about COVID-19 infection.

The live event took place on Tuesday 21st April 2020

References:

Paper 1 (00:00) Tang W, Cao Z, Han M, et al. Hydroxychloroquine in patients with COVID-19: an open-label, randomized, controlled trial. April 2020. doi:10.1101/2020.04.10.20060558

Recorded at Tactical Trauma 2024, in this episode of the St. Emlyn’s podcast, Iain Beardsell and Liz Crowe sit down with Kevin Cyr, commander of a SWAT-like unit in the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, to discuss leadership, failure, and resilience in high-stakes environments. Kevin shares the powerful story of a tragic hostage situation that resulted in the unintended death of the hostage by the police, a failure of the highest order. Through this tragedy, Kevin highlights the importance of visible leadership, team resilience, and learning from failure in both law enforcement and healthcare settings.

Key Themes:

1. Handling Failure in High-Pressure Situations:
Kevin discusses a significant incident where a hostage was killed by his SWAT team during a rescue attempt, describing it as the “epitome of failure.” This tragic event not only made national news but left an indelible mark on the team. The podcast dives into the lessons learned from this event and how the team used it to drive growth and improvement. In healthcare, much like in policing, failure can feel devastating and highly public, but it’s also a critical aspect of development for teams and leaders.

2. Visible Leadership and Unwavering Support:
In the aftermath of a traumatic event, Kevin emphasizes the importance of leadership being present and supportive. He recounts how he and his commanding officer went to visit the officers involved in the shooting immediately after the event, providing what he calls “unwavering support.” In healthcare, leaders should adopt similar strategies, offering visible and sustained support to their teams in the immediate aftermath of difficult cases.

3. Sustained Support Over Time:
While initial support following a traumatic event is crucial, Kevin points out that it’s often after 48 hours, or even weeks later, that people start feeling isolated. Leaders must continue to check in with their teams weeks after the event, when the immediate crisis may have passed, but the emotional toll is still present. This ongoing visibility and emotional support are key to retaining staff and ensuring their well-being in both law enforcement and healthcare.

4. Debriefing to Learn, Not to Blame:
Kevin advocates for a debriefing process that focuses on learning from failure rather than assigning blame. After their tragic event, his team didn’t just move on; they dissected the event to understand what went wrong and how to prevent similar failures in the future. In healthcare, this process is equally valuable—debriefs should aim to identify learning opportunities and reinforce positive actions, not to point fingers.

5. The Role of Organizational Culture:
Kevin touches on how organizational apathy, or a lack of emotional and psychological support, can cause more damage than the actual traumatic event itself. He highlights the importance of developing a high-trust environment where team members feel safe to express vulnerability. In healthcare, fostering a culture of open communication and mutual support is essential to prevent burnout and moral injury.

6. The Value of Failure in Team Growth:
One of the most profound insights Kevin shares is the idea that failure is a necessary part of growth. Three years after their tragic hostage situation, his team was called to a similar event, but this time they were successful in rescuing both hostages. Kevin attributes this success directly to the lessons learned from their earlier failure, emphasizing that failure, when handled correctly, can lead to transformational change.

7. Selection and Resilience in High-Performance Teams:
Kevin discusses the importance of selecting team members with high emotional intelligence and the humility to ask for help when needed. He explains how his team differentiates between rank and role, giving autonomy to those with the most subject matter expertise, regardless of their rank. In healthcare, this is a critical point—leaders must recognize that true leadership isn’t just about authority, but about empowering others to take charge when appropriate.

8. Managing Expectations and Mental Health:
The episode also delves into how individuals in high-stakes roles, whether in policing or healthcare, cope with the psychological aftermath of traumatic events. Kevin explains how his team has shifted from the belief that emotional support is unnecessary to recognizing the value of helping team members process their experiences in a healthy way. This parallels the increasing focus in healthcare on preventing burnout and ensuring emotional well-being through proactive support...

This is the second in our series of talks recorded live in June 2023 at the PREMIER conference.

Looking after patients with non-epileptiform seizures are a challenging, and common, event in the Emergency Department. 10% of attendances at paediatric neurology clinics are thought to be 'functional' and a lot of these will also present to the ED. These problems can involve a wide range of physical or sensory manifestations, almost all of wide have significant differentials which we cannot miss.

A large number of these patients can end up with an incorrect diagnosis, some of this due to confirmation bias by clinicians, but also some with psychogenic non-epileptiform seizures may coexist with organic problems.

The history is key and can be helped significantly by watching videos of events. There may be other factors giving a clue to a non-epileptic cause. Sometimes this will only happen in one place, like school, and the history may be inconsistent. Awareness and generalised bilateral movements, with episodes that are different each time all point to a non epileptiform origin. And then there are symptoms just 'not fitting' with our knowledge of dermatomal distribution.

There are Red Flags - Events happening during exercise, neurological signs, unpredictability and patterns to the events all point to a more sinister diagnosis

Management is incredibly difficult, particularly in trhe ED. Don't suggest an organic diagnosis and leave some ambiguity. There is time to get more information and there are few definitive diagnostic tests. EEGs are notoriously unreliable. Self help groups can help.

Steve Warriner has worked as a paediatrician at the QA in Portsmouth for the last 16 years. He trained in various regions in the UK including the Midlands, Yorkshire and the North East of England before working in Somerset for a brief period. He has a particular interest in epilepsy and neurological conditions in children and lead the district epilepsy service in Portsmouth. He teaches on the British Paediatric Neurology Association epilepsy training courses both in the UK and across the world. He was part of the team who designed and implemented the training course (initially in Myanmar) and the method of cascade training has recently been recognised by the World Health Organisation and the course now runs in nearly 30 counties in 3 languages. Steve recently chaired a multidisciplinary working group to update the Advanced Life Support Group guideline for management of prolonged seizures. In his spare time, Steve is a triathlete who qualified for and competed in the World Ironman Championship race in Hawaii in 2022.