
#254 - Bo Seo on GOOD ARGUMENTS
06/07/22 • 58 min
Former world champion debater Bo Seo chats with Trey Elling about GOOD ARGUMENTS: HOW DEBATE TEACHES US TO LISTEN AND BE HEARD. Topics include:
- Bo's goal with the book (0:27)
- Why disagreement is valuable in human interaction (2:30)
- Bo's outright avoidance of conflict changing in 2005 (4:52)
- The importance of topic analysis for debate (10:38)
- Why 'truth' and 'importance' are debate's two burdens of proof to convince a listener (15:49)
- Counterclaims as an embodiment for justifiable hope, according to Aristotle (28:14)
- Why rhetoric has such a negative connotation, and what good rhetoric looks like (32:02)
- Four qualifications that determine whether an argument is worth pursuing (37:02)
- How to disarm a name-calling bully in a debate (44:46)
- The greatest lesson he learned while coaching debate (48:10)
- Side-switching as another tool to prepare for debate (54:42)
Former world champion debater Bo Seo chats with Trey Elling about GOOD ARGUMENTS: HOW DEBATE TEACHES US TO LISTEN AND BE HEARD. Topics include:
- Bo's goal with the book (0:27)
- Why disagreement is valuable in human interaction (2:30)
- Bo's outright avoidance of conflict changing in 2005 (4:52)
- The importance of topic analysis for debate (10:38)
- Why 'truth' and 'importance' are debate's two burdens of proof to convince a listener (15:49)
- Counterclaims as an embodiment for justifiable hope, according to Aristotle (28:14)
- Why rhetoric has such a negative connotation, and what good rhetoric looks like (32:02)
- Four qualifications that determine whether an argument is worth pursuing (37:02)
- How to disarm a name-calling bully in a debate (44:46)
- The greatest lesson he learned while coaching debate (48:10)
- Side-switching as another tool to prepare for debate (54:42)
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- An mistake that derailed his life as a junior in high school (15:29)
- How his mom and dad reacted to that mistake (19:37)
- Ending up at Pasadena City College in California (27:02)
- Getting that full ride to play at San Diego State (30:10)
- Swallowing his pride in making a name for himself on special teams (33:03)
- The terrifying details of his first experience with Multiple Sclerosis (35:03)
- Continuing to play football through this debilitating condition (41:08)
- Becoming an ambassador for MS and a highly sought-after public speaker (46:48)
- Inheriting Earl's skill as a public speaker (50:18)
- The key to a good story (52:14)
- What his mom means to him (54:51)
- What his dad means to him (55:44)
- What his wife means to him (56:37)
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