
Ep. 123 - Reframe Your Decisions with Dr Eva Krackow
11/23/19 • 40 min
On this episode of The Social-Engineer Podcast, host Chris sits down with Dr. Eva Krackow to discuss decision-making. Eva is an assistant professor in psychology at the University of Leicester, and focuses her research on judgement and decision-making, as well as how people can improve their daily choices for the better. Similarly, The Social-Engineer focuses on the end user, and how their decisions affect their online security. Eva talks about a game that was developed to research the difference in an individual’s behavior based on the motive of the game, being teamwork, or a competition, and how subtle framing can influence an individual’s behavior. Framing is a way to present an idea or concept to an individual to achieve desired results.
Chris and Eva discuss the parallels between online security, The Social-Engineer’s line of business, and an individual’s choice to lean towards a way of “framing” that appeals to them. In terms of phishing scams, where once there were emails riddled with errors, scams have become more intelligent, getting email correspondence to appear more legitimate. Framing of the message has become more professional and sophisticated. The framing of the emails has changed in a way to adapt to the individual reading the scam, allowing the scammer to continue to be successful in stealing identities and information.
Eva discusses issues that come along with our current age of social media, and how individuals are less likely to explore unfamiliar information because of the algorithms that these popular networking sites use to appease each individual user. Social media websites aren’t necessarily our friend when it comes to actual facts and accurate information, but it is coincidentally where most people are finding their news sources. She suggests we need to consistently look outside of our usual media sources, outside of our current friends list, and be aware of the information we’re absorbing. When we don’t take these initiatives on our own, we can find ourselves taking in a never ending supply of information that appeals specifically to us, making it easier to believe the news we take in to be fact, when many times, it’s not. Reframing our communication allows us to be more open to new information that we may not have been before, it can open doors we weren’t aware existed when we’re able to step outside of our comfort zone.
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Links:
Find more of Dr. Eva Krackow’s articles at https://www.psychologytoday.com/us
Find more information about The Social-Engineer at: https://www.social-engineer.org/
Follow The Social-Engineer Podcast on Twitter (@humanhacker), YouTube, and LinkedIn
Eva's Book Recommendations:
On this episode of The Social-Engineer Podcast, host Chris sits down with Dr. Eva Krackow to discuss decision-making. Eva is an assistant professor in psychology at the University of Leicester, and focuses her research on judgement and decision-making, as well as how people can improve their daily choices for the better. Similarly, The Social-Engineer focuses on the end user, and how their decisions affect their online security. Eva talks about a game that was developed to research the difference in an individual’s behavior based on the motive of the game, being teamwork, or a competition, and how subtle framing can influence an individual’s behavior. Framing is a way to present an idea or concept to an individual to achieve desired results.
Chris and Eva discuss the parallels between online security, The Social-Engineer’s line of business, and an individual’s choice to lean towards a way of “framing” that appeals to them. In terms of phishing scams, where once there were emails riddled with errors, scams have become more intelligent, getting email correspondence to appear more legitimate. Framing of the message has become more professional and sophisticated. The framing of the emails has changed in a way to adapt to the individual reading the scam, allowing the scammer to continue to be successful in stealing identities and information.
Eva discusses issues that come along with our current age of social media, and how individuals are less likely to explore unfamiliar information because of the algorithms that these popular networking sites use to appease each individual user. Social media websites aren’t necessarily our friend when it comes to actual facts and accurate information, but it is coincidentally where most people are finding their news sources. She suggests we need to consistently look outside of our usual media sources, outside of our current friends list, and be aware of the information we’re absorbing. When we don’t take these initiatives on our own, we can find ourselves taking in a never ending supply of information that appeals specifically to us, making it easier to believe the news we take in to be fact, when many times, it’s not. Reframing our communication allows us to be more open to new information that we may not have been before, it can open doors we weren’t aware existed when we’re able to step outside of our comfort zone.
Listen to more episodes and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts!
Links:
Find more of Dr. Eva Krackow’s articles at https://www.psychologytoday.com/us
Find more information about The Social-Engineer at: https://www.social-engineer.org/
Follow The Social-Engineer Podcast on Twitter (@humanhacker), YouTube, and LinkedIn
Eva's Book Recommendations:
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Ep. 122 - Can’t We All Just Get Along with Anne-Maartje Oud
Chris Hadnagy interviews Anne-Maartje Oud, chairperson and owner of The Behaviour Company, about how she found the inspiration and drive to kick start her own company dedicated to research about human behavior, how she deals with common behavioral problems, some insights on her cultural background and its impact on her career and the people around her.
On This Episode We Discuss:- 00:00 - 122nd Episode of the Social-Engineer Podcast!
- 03:50 - Quick recap about Anne-Maartje Oud
- 04:30 - Anne talks about the early years of her career, how she found the inspiration and drive to start her own company focused on research into human behavior
- 08:33 - Anne talks about her study and research on human behavior, how she teach people
- 10:16 - How she help people become aware of their bad behavior
- 13:59 - Anne talks about the common problems she usually encounter
- 19:25 - Her advice on meeting new people, going through job interviews and how to behave right in these situations
- 21:45 - Her cultural background and its impact on her career and the people around her; and how to fit in with people from various cultures
- 45:33 - Closing remarks for Anne (links to her company website, social media accounts, books she recommends)
- 46:16 - Desmon Morris’ book “People Watching”
- 48:58 - A brief interview with Dov Baron
- 49-57 - Who is Dov Baron?
- 51:26 - Dov shares what he’ll talk about in the coming 2020 Social-Engineer conference
- 55:00 - Dov talks about leadership
- 57:56 - Closing remarks for Dov (Links to his company website, his social media accounts)
Books to Read:
What Every Body is Saying - Joe Navarro
Featured Links:
- https://www.behaviourcompany.eu
- https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-behaviour-company/
- https://twitter.com/annemaartjeoud
- https://fullmontyleadership.com/
- https://www.sevillage.org/
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Ep. 124 - Cognitive Energy and Critical Thinking with Dr. Christopher Dwyer
Welcome to another episode of The Social-Engineer Podcast! Host, Christopher Hadnagy, interviews Christopher Dwyer, on this 124th episode. Dr. Dwyer is a psychologist who has been researching critical thinking and cognitive energy throughout his career, including what it means to be a critical thinker. He started his PhD by researching argument mapping, focusing on the structure of arguments and the effect of it on memory performance.
Chris asks Dr. Dwyer how he would define critical thinking. For Dr. Dwyer, the term refers to purposeful, self-regulatory reflective judgment reliant on a number of skills in order to produce a valid conclusion to an argument or a solution to a problem. Dr. Dwyer explains how the term has come to have different meanings across the industry - but the main idea has been that core skills and core dispositions make up critical thinking. Dr. Dwyer is interested in how to enhance people’s critical thinking skills; however, he has found that it is very dependent on context and circumstances. He shares an example of this, comparing findings about critical thinking of traditional students and adult-learning course students. The mature students had worse critical thinking at the beginning of a class yet they improved more than traditional students over time.
Towards the end of the episode, Chris and Dr. Dwyer discuss how humans hate to be wrong, but love to be right. Dr. Dwyer says that this is due to risk aversion - we do not enjoy the things that are detrimental to us and we fear being found wanting. However, it is important to not let our fear stop us from critically thinking well.
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