“How Xi Jinping’s New Era Should Have Ended U.S. Debate” With Peter Mattis

What kind of world does the Communist Party of China want? How can we know what they are thinking? These questions are the subject of "How Xi Jinping’s ‘New Era’ Should Have Ended U.S. Debate on Beijing’s Ambitions," a report by National Intelligence College professor Dan Tobin that was originally published as testimony to Congress. This episode uses Tobin's research as a starting point to discuss a web of issues at the core of Western attempts to understand the Chinese system. We talk about why Western analysts often struggle to understand the Communist Party, which parts of the "China watching" world are most successful doing this, and why any of this should matter to the "average" American citizen with no particular stake in China. Joining me (Tanner Greer) to discuss this report is Peter Mattis. Mattis is a Senior Fellow at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute and most recently was the Senate-appointed staff director at the Congressional-Executive Commission on China, where he was part of the legislative team that passed the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act, Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act, and the Tibetan Policy and Support Act. He is the coauthor of Chinese Communist Espionage: An Intelligence Primer and the author of Analyzing the Chinese Military: A Review Essay and Resource Guide on the People's Liberation Army (2015).