
Part 2, Dr Len Necefer, 2025
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01/07/25 • 45 min
Dr Len Necefer opens up 2025 for The River Radius. Len is the mind and perspective I wanted to welcome me and you both into this 6th season of The River Radius. We talk through the relationship of rivers and elections, of books for this year, the work and impact of Secretary of the Interior Deb Haaland, and other river and life layers. Len is the founder of Natives Outdoors, the Sonoran Avalanche Center, runs rivers, is articulate and intelligently humorous. This is the 2nd episode with Dr Len Necefer and both are some of my favorites.
1ST EPISODE: Part 1, Dr Len Necefer, Living in the Soup
Apple Podcasts
Spotify
GUEST
Dr Len Necefer website
Natives Outdoors
Outside TV: Running Dry
Dr Len Necefer personal IG account
Sonoran Avalanche Center IG account
RELEVANT LINKS
Office of Indian Energy Policy and Programs
Honold Foundation
BOOKS
Surviving Autocracy by Masha Gessen
The NativesOutdoors reading list for the outdoor industry
SPONSORS
Denver Area Nissan Dealers
@nissanusa
River Management Society
2025 Symposium
@rivermgtsociety
FB River Management Society
THE RIVER RADIUS
Dr Len Necefer opens up 2025 for The River Radius. Len is the mind and perspective I wanted to welcome me and you both into this 6th season of The River Radius. We talk through the relationship of rivers and elections, of books for this year, the work and impact of Secretary of the Interior Deb Haaland, and other river and life layers. Len is the founder of Natives Outdoors, the Sonoran Avalanche Center, runs rivers, is articulate and intelligently humorous. This is the 2nd episode with Dr Len Necefer and both are some of my favorites.
1ST EPISODE: Part 1, Dr Len Necefer, Living in the Soup
Apple Podcasts
Spotify
GUEST
Dr Len Necefer website
Natives Outdoors
Outside TV: Running Dry
Dr Len Necefer personal IG account
Sonoran Avalanche Center IG account
RELEVANT LINKS
Office of Indian Energy Policy and Programs
Honold Foundation
BOOKS
Surviving Autocracy by Masha Gessen
The NativesOutdoors reading list for the outdoor industry
SPONSORS
Denver Area Nissan Dealers
@nissanusa
River Management Society
2025 Symposium
@rivermgtsociety
FB River Management Society
THE RIVER RADIUS
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Part 1, Dr Len Necefer, Living in the Soup
To move from 2024 into 2025, we have one guest in two episodes for you. Our guest is Dr Len Necefer. This is the first episode. We talk through life wrapped in intellect and self facing humor, 6th grade reading levels, native art and the modern retail market, an upriver bike ride, and river runs at the northern most reaches of the North American continent. Len is the “star” of his Outside TV show where he is riding his bike up the Colorado River from Mexico to Colorado. He is the founder of Natives Outdoors. He served the Obama Administration in the Dept of Energy. And Len is part of the founding crew of the Sonoran Avalanche Center. Len and I sat on top of a small mountain, on a park bench looking down on the deep desert river and ski town of Tucson, Arizona on a Sunday morning in the end of November to laugh and learn, and talk life and rivers.
GUEST
Dr Len Necefer website
Natives Outdoors
Outside TV: Running Dry
Dr Len Necefer personal IG account
Sonoran Avalanche Center IG account
RELEVANT LINKS
Bogs in collaboration with Natives Outdoors
Honold Foundation
Returning Rapids
Returning Rapids of Cataract 2021
Autopsy of a Post Reservoir River
SPONSORS
Denver Area Nissan Dealers
@nissanusa
Over It Raft Covers
@overitraftcovers
THE RIVER RADIUS
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Part 1, Hurricane Helene in Appalachia, The Science
In September of 2024 when Hurricane Helene arrived in the mountains of North Carolina, Tennessee and South Carolina, it landed where the ground and rivers were already saturated and swollen with rain. The result was “the storm of record” taking out thousands of bridges, sending thousands of landslides down the mountains and taking human life. This episode hosts the National Weather Service and the Lower Mississippi River Forecast Center to explore the storm and the river reaction, and then Dr Phillip Prince goes deep in describing landslides and debris flows and their impact.
GUESTS
Trisha Palmer
National Weather Service
Greenville Spartanburg, South Carolina
Matt Wilson
Lower Mississippi River Forecast Center
Slidell, Louisiana
Dr Phillip Prince
Geo Models You Tube Channel
RELEVANT LINKS AND CONTENT
Video: French Broad River Flooding 2024 - Hurricane Helene in Woodfin, NC
Article: Helene deals billions in damage to infrastructure
Article: Reflections on loss and opportunity in flood ravaged Western North Carolina
SPONSORS
Denver Area Nissan Dealers
@nissanusa
River Management Society
2025 Symposium
@rivermgtsociety
FB River Management Society
THE RIVER RADIUS
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