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The Ripcord Moment

The Ripcord Moment

Joe Seetoo

Business owners are today’s American heroes. They innovate, they create jobs, they believe that they can CREATE a better future for their families and our country. So much attention is given the start of a business (the idea, the technology, and the fund raising). Yet much less to the exit – as if it will magically take care of itself. When they do exit the business, it’s a once in a lifetime event – there is no do over! Yet so many are ill-prepared to make the jump.The Ripcord Moment is a podcast focused on learning from those entrepreneurs and their team of advisors who have made the jump and sharing their best ideas with you. So when you are ready for your Ripcord Moment – you can execute and hit your perfect landing. Disclosure: Information presented herein is for discussion and illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the speakers are as of the date of the recording and are subject to change. These views are not intended as a recommendation to buy or sell any securities, and should not be relied on as financial, tax or legal advice. You should consult with your attorney, finance professional or accountant before implementing any transactions and/or strategies concerning your finances.‍
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The Ripcord Moment - You Might Be A Boss, But You're Not The Ultimate Boss
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05/05/21 • 25 min

“When you have your back against the wall, it’s amazing what strength you can come up with” - Brian Shafton, Founder and CEO of RBC records. Hear how Brian created RBC from scratch with just a computer and cell phone in his living room, grew the business and how he approached BMG which led to a strategic acquisition.

As the acquisition unfolded, Brian discusses some of the synergies between RBC Records and BMG. Specifically, he discusses how BMG’s International presence allowed him to expand his business from only U.S. based clientele to working with artists around the world.

Pay close attention to why an independent company was a non-negotiable must for Brian when negotiating his deal.

He shares his insights on the realities of the due diligence process - how arduous, stressful and time consuming it was. And, how by going through this process, it gave him a better appreciation for his business and how he learned from himself by retracing his steps. Ultimately, in retrospect, he now looks back at it with enjoyment.

Lastly, he shares his 2 action items for owners:

  1. Ask specific scenarios during the courting phase with your potential suitors. Get an understanding how the new buyer will treat your clients and your employees. Additionally, take the time to come away with a clear vision of how the buyer will integrate your systems into their systems.
  2. How to ensure your legacy is preserved when your company is acquired by a strategic buyer.
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“The three rules of ESOPs are cash flow, cash flow, cash flow.” – Sheryl Bayani-Alzona, attorney with the Employee Benefits Law Group, a Southern California-based practice that focuses on employee stock ownership plans. In this episode, Sheryl offers her expertise on the world of ESOPs and if this is the right exit strategy for you.
Sheryl starts off by explaining to us what an ESOP is. At a high level, an ESOP is an employee stock ownership plan. It is a retirement plan similar to your 401(k) profit sharing plan. However, it is the only retirement plan that is allowed to enter into a loan to purchase employer's stock from selling shareholders.
She dives into the main benefits of an ESOP to a selling shareholder, including the ability to defer payment of capital gains. She also discusses what types of companies usually use ESOPs as an exit strategy, with manufacturing, construction, and professional industries leading this list.
Sheryl also addresses common pitfalls that owners should be aware of when it comes to ESOPs, the biggest one being whether they can afford it. Companies need cash flow to function, and since the ESOP is funded by the company, it is important that the company's cash flow is healthy.
She also discusses the concept of a partial ESOP coupled with a later exit. She says this is an option because the ESOP is a ready buyer, and perhaps the only buyer who is willing to take a minority interest in a company.
Lastly, she shares two action items for owners:
1. Go through the ESOP suitability review process to make sure you know what you are getting yourself into before you establish an ESOP.
2. Call Sheryl. She works for the Employee Benefits Law Group, the largest ESOP consulting and legal practice in Southern California. Her direct line is 310-571-8896.
Disclosure: Information presented herein is for discussion and illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the speakers are as of the date of the recording and are subject to change. These views are not intended as a recommendation to buy or sell any securities, and should not be relied on as financial, tax or legal advice. You should consult with your attorney, finance professional or accountant before implementing any transactions and/or strategies concerning your finances.

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On this episode of The Ripcord Moment, host Joe Seetoo invites Regional Executive Vice President at American Business Bank, Jeff Munson, to discuss the recent bank crises and what business owners can do to protect themselves.
Jeff says Silicon Valley Bank collapsed due to their investments in longer bonds, so when depositors started to leave the bank, SVB did not have much liquidity because they could not sell those long-term bonds. This is a learning lesson for anyone who has money in a bank- it is imperative to ensure your bank prioritizes risk management. Jeff says while your banker should understand your balance sheet, you should also be asking questions about theirs. You should have conversations with your banker about their loan portfolio, bond strategy, and senior management.
Jeff also notes that American Business Bank evaluates their clients’ character, management, strategy during the pandemic, etc. Therefore, the clients they take on are generally quality companies who make money and preserve their assets. Your bank should be asking questions about how your business is run and how your organization has weathered storms in the past, as this may mean they are a bank that understands risk.
Jeff recommends business owners to analyze the cash flow and debt structure they need to transform their lifestyle business into an organization that is not entirely dependent on them. Your bank should be helping you understand how to get there. Furthermore, business owners should understand how FDIC Insurance works in order to understand what risk they are taking. Jeff is confident that while some banks have failed recently, reinforcing the importance of being with a bank that mitigates risk, the banking system is here to stay through good and bad times.
Disclosure: Information presented herein is for discussion and illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the speakers are as of the date of the recording and are subject to change or do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of Morton Wealth. These views are not intended as a recommendation to buy or sell any securities, and should not be relied on as financial, tax or legal advice. You should consult with your financial, legal, and tax professionals before implementing any transactions and/or strategies concerning your finances.

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On today’s episode of The Ripcord Moment, Joe welcomes sister-duo Lizzie Means Duplantis and Sarah Means, founders of Miron Crosby, a custom cowboy boot brand headquartered in Dallas, TX.
Sarah and Lizzie were raised on a ranch in Texas and were gifted cowboy boots on every important occasion: birthdays, graduations, and weddings. Their cousins also owned a cowboy boot factory and helped them make custom boots for their personal use. When they began wearing these boots around New York City later in life, strangers would stop and ask where they could get a pair. That’s when Sarah and Lizzie knew they had something special to introduce to the luxury fashion market.
Miron Crosby made over one million dollars in revenue during their first year. Sarah and Lizzie say they accomplished this by elevating the shopping experience through their brick-and-mortar store in Highland Park, TX, highlighting the uniqueness of their products and working with a PR firm to help get their boots featured in publications like Vogue and Elle. They have tied sentimental value with luxury by also offering the option to embroider handwritten words onto their boots. There is no one else in the fashion world who is offering such niche products.
As they grow even more this year, the sisters are putting more energy toward hiring new executives who will push their brand forward. They agree there are certain values and skills you cannot teach someone, like work ethic and kindness. Lizzie and Sarah are intentional about the tribe they keep at Miron Crosby to ensure their brand is propelled by the right people.
Lastly, they shared their two action items for business owners:
1. Work with people who are experienced and whose values align with yours.
2. Get comfortable with being uncomfortable. Be the first one to ask questions, don’t be afraid to seem “dumb,” and be open to feedback.

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The Ripcord Moment - Family Succession vs. Strategic Buyer - The Finer Points
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08/19/21 • 36 min

“If it’s going to be worth something to someone else, it has to create value for them” – Chris Yount, former CEO and 3rd generation business owner of Fortifiber.

Hear Chris’s story as he shares how he rescued the family business from bankruptcy during the Great Financial Crisis, revamped the company’s strategic initiatives and led the company to its highest level of profitability in its 80 year history. As Chris looked to the future, securing his family’s legacy and financial security was a top priority. He chose to sell the company to Henry Co., a strategic buyer backed by a Private Equity firm.

In this episode, Chris discusses some of the finer points between a family succession plan and a transaction with an external party. For example, with a family succession, Chris points out the importance of clearly defined leadership roles for the new management team so it’s clear to employees how they need to prioritize their work and responsibilities. One potential solution Chris suggests is to consider moving the former CEO to a more remote office away from the main office.

One of the beauties to family successions, if over multiple generations, is the cumulative lessons learned along the way which can be retained and passed from one generation to the next.

When it comes to an institutional buyer, Chris says cultural differences will shine through. For example, a Private Equity firm has a more formal structure and will look at the acquisition through the lens of risk management. This will cause the due diligence process to be more onerous than with a private non institutional buyer, who is likely looking to be more opportunistic. The process is much more formalized than with a family transfer.

Chris strongly encourages entrepreneurs to consider having a board of Strategic Advisors. These are non-fiduciary members who can push the owner to think about the company in a different manner than they are accustomed to. Additionally, these advisors can help professionalize the company which will enhance the enterprise value of the business and make it more attractive to a potential suitor.

Lastly, he shares his 2 action items for owners:

  1. Push to professionalize your business: Specifically, Chris encourages owners to ensure their financial record keeping is accurate and robust. Sloppy accounting and financial records will not stand up to the rigors of due diligence when dealing with a strategic institutional buyer or a Private Equity firm.
  2. Value Creation: Set the business up in a way that can create value for anyone not just you.

Chris now spends his time consulting with other businesses and writing for Forbes magazine. If you’d like to connect with Chris Yount, he can be reached via his website at https://www.christopheryount.com/contact.

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The Ripcord Moment - Get Comfortable With Being Uncomfortable
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07/15/21 • 23 min

"Get comfortable with being uncomfortable” –Alec Eickert, Owner and Managing Partner of BDV Inspections and BDV Capital Group. In this episode, Alec shares his story as a Generation 2 owner of a family business and how he navigated the challenges of losing his father unexpectedly who was the head of the family business.

Alec shares why contingency planning is so critical for all businesses, especially family-owned enterprises. Specifically, he suggests focusing on building transferable and repeatable systems and processes as part of the core operations. This will ensure the viability of the business. He also strongly believes its critical for any business that wants to thrive to attract and properly incentivize the best talent possible. Business systems can’t run on their own and by attracting the right team you can ensure the business continues to evolve over time to adapt to changing market conditions. This helps to mitigate the “tribal knowledge risk” which is so common in lower middle market family-owned businesses.

He also suggests owners take the time to play out various scenarios (i.e. if they are not around) and think through the ramifications to the business.

Alec shares his passion for ultra marathon events and how he plans to reach the highest peak in all 50 states. He applies this mindset of embracing discomfort to running his business.

Lastly, he shares his 2 action items for owners:

1. Develop the systems and processes early in the business and ensure the team is using the systems effectively. This action will help increase the enterprise value of the company.

2. Surround yourself with a personal board of advisors and mentors. This will help keep you accountable towards the success you desire.

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The Ripcord Moment - Create Flow Before Selling Your Business
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09/07/22 • 26 min

“Progress is in relationship with struggle.” — Chris M. King, CEO of Status Flow. In this episode, Chris explains what “flow” is and how to create momentum on your team and in your personal life with flow triggers. He also shares how embracing change and discomfort is pivotal to growth.

Chris discusses the law of accelerating returns, which signifies the exponential progress of technology and culture. In order to keep up with our ever-changing world, business owners must be open to pivoting their plans and products and constantly innovating.

Being immersed in a state of “flow” is necessary for creativity and momentum. Think about a time when you were effortlessly absorbed by the task at hand because your mind was in a state of inspiration. Certain triggers, like risk and novelty, contribute to the flow state.

When organizations learn to remove flow blockages and create an environment, routines, and culture that include flow triggers, innovation and motivation will come to employees naturally.

Lastly, he shares two action items for owners:

1. Figure out what to do when you reach your goal. Continue innovating and thinking about ways to spin your products and business, or what the next project should be. The dark side of flow is that when you obtain success, there now exists a large gap that must be filled with the next journey.

2. The brain and body require rest in order to bounce back to their most creative, inventive state. When you rest, let yourself completely relax and step away from work.
Disclosure: Information presented herein is for discussion and illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the speakers are as of the date of the recording and are subject to change. These views are not intended as a recommendation to buy or sell any securities, and should not be relied on as financial, tax or legal advice. You should consult with your attorney, finance professional or accountant before implementing any transactions and/or strategies concerning your finances.

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The Ripcord Moment - Series B Financing as a Partial Exit
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09/02/21 • 34 min

“It’s freaky—having people work for you that you never met” — Michael McCrary, founder and CEO of PureSpectrum, a complete end-to-end market research and insights survey platform with the mission of making researchers’ jobs easier. In just five years, the company has sourced over 32 million online interviews. Recently, the company was ranked #21 on Deloitte’s Technology Fast 500 list.

Michael shares his insights in procuring $17 million of Series B financing (growth stage capital). With this explosive growth, Michael used this opportunity to take some chips off the table. He surveyed a number of other entrepreneurs and it was unanimous that he should sell some shares in the process.

Some of the key benefits for Michael were “de-risking” his personal financial plan. From a psychological standpoint, he says it was nice to see some reward for the last five years of work and effort.

Additionally, it helps protect the value of the overall enterprise in case something unforeseen were to happen. He wouldn’t be forced to take a lowball offer due to a scarcity mindset. With personal security checked off the list, he can focus on taking the company to the next level. Michael says that the key is to strike the right balance in the deal structure so that an owner can’t ride off into the sunset. The owner should be incentivized to work.

Unlike many technology companies that partner with private equity firms based in major hubs like San Francisco or New York, Michael partnered with a Minneapolis-based firm. As he explains, there was a better cultural fit and he felt a better alignment of interests. He says it’s not just a quarterly board meeting. You are inviting these investors to be a “fiduciary” to your company. He thought of it like hiring another executive.

Lastly, he shares his two action items for owners:

  1. Tax planning – With tax rates likely to move higher in coming years, Michael strongly encourages owners to do their tax planning well ahead of the transaction. Specifically for lower middle market companies, he encourages them to research Section 1202 of the Internal Revenue Code, which outlines the benefits of a qualified small business stock sale and how to potentially eliminate federal capital gains taxes.
  2. Assemble your team – Michael stresses the importance of assembling your professional management team, specifically your wealth management advisor, estate planning attorney and CPA. These transactions are complicated and you need professional advice. He also says it is critical that they know each other and are able to communicate with one another openly.
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“Get your ducks in a row—NOW.” – Janice Miller, Managing Partner at Miller Haga Law Group, LLP, and author of Coopertition®.

In this episode, Janice offers her legal expertise on the world of exit planning and the common issues she sees owners deal with when going through an exit, specifically in today’s post-COVID environment.

Janice discusses how to best prepare for an upcoming exit, including the importance of knowing what you want to accomplish from the sale and assembling a team of professionals to help you achieve those goals early on.

She shares the significance of having a buy-sell agreement in place, comparing it to a pre-nuptial agreement in a marriage. She shares with us why she believes everyone should have one, detailing how they can strengthen a business relationship and set clear expectations and parameters for leaving a partnership.

Janice talks about the why behind her book, Coopertition®, including how it is the concept that “competitors can work cooperatively together to benefit all: benefit their clients, benefit themselves, benefit their competitors.” She says she lives and breathes this concept, which inspired her to trademark the phrase and write the book.

Lastly, she shares two action items for owners:

1. Give yourself the gift of time, and don’t expect to do a transaction now if you have not spent time getting everything in a row first.

2. Be true to yourself and have clear goals that you want to accomplish from the transaction. Don’t stray from these goals unless necessary.
Disclosure: Information presented herein is for discussion and illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the speakers are as of the date of the recording and are subject to change. These views are not intended as a recommendation to buy or sell any securities, and should not be relied on as financial, tax or legal advice. You should consult with your attorney, finance professional or accountant before implementing any transactions and/or strategies concerning your finances.

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On this episode of The Ripcord Moment, host Joe Seetoo welcomes Julia Schieffer, founder of DerivSource. DerivSource is an independent information source on derivatives, post-trade, fintech, risk management and technology that she sold to Markets Media in 2021.

Julia encourages owners and leaders to listen to their gut. If you feel passionate about an idea, be persistent with your vision even if other people shoot it down. If it does not work out, know that trial and error are integral to finding success and creating uniqueness. Julia reframes failures as “experiments” and knows that they are for her ultimate good.

She also urges owners to detach themselves from their business when it’s time to let go. Although the business might feel like it is a part of your identity, many owners ultimately suffocate their company because they do not allow themselves to trust another entity or owner to give it new life.

Finally, Julia urges owners to know their worth and what they truly want. Write down a couple of your own goals (not what you think people want from you), and never waver from these core aspirations. She also encourages owners to build a strong transition team and surround themselves with a reliable team of lawyers, advisors, and other professionals.

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The Ripcord Moment currently has 32 episodes available.

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The podcast is about Financial Planning, Management, Entrepreneur, Entrepreneurship, Business Strategy, Financial Advisor, Podcasts, Small Business and Business.

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The episode title 'Running a Business With Your Family: Generation Gaps & Compromise | The Ripcord Moment (Ep. 24)' is the most popular.

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The average episode length on The Ripcord Moment is 27 minutes.

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