
Dave Burns - Psychedelics & Non-Duality: Understanding & Integrating Expanded States
10/31/22 • 44 min
In another great session from Third Wave's Virtual Summit, transformational coach Dave Burns explores psychedelics & non-dual experiences.
Dave Burns is a transformational coach, angel investor, and essayist. With a background in relational work, partnered meditation, mindful business training, and classical philosophy, his work today centers around the interplay between ancient wisdom and modern practicality. A very happy husband, he lives in Austin, Texas with his wife, where he practices tea ceremonies and classical cello.
Dave is a faculty member in Third Wave's Coaching Certification Program.
In this episode, Paul F. Austin joins Dave to discuss the four types of non-dual experiences, along with their unique qualities, benefits and risks. Drawing insights from the world's spiritual traditions, Dave offers a practical framework for safely integrating the expanded states one may experience through psychedelics or deep spiritual practice.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here.
Highlights:
- Dave Burns defines non-duality, and explains how it applies to psychedelic experiences
- The four types of non-dual experiences and their qualities, benefits, and pitfalls
- Object-object non-duality
- Subject-object non-duality
- Subject-subject non-duality
- Value non-duality
- Q&A
Episode Links:
- Dave's Website
- The Jhanas: Perfect States of Concentration
- Book: The Finders by Dr. Jeffery A. Martin
- Integral Theory by Ken Wilbur
- Brahman, ultimate reality in Vedic philosophy
- The Vedas
- Zen Buddhism
- Narayana
This episode is brought to you by MycroDropsTM Powerful Micro-Elixirs made from Adaptogen and nootropic herbs and mushrooms. Get MOTIVATED, FOCUSED & GROUNDED! Use code THIRDWAVE and take $10 off your first purchase of $30 or more.
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In another great session from Third Wave's Virtual Summit, transformational coach Dave Burns explores psychedelics & non-dual experiences.
Dave Burns is a transformational coach, angel investor, and essayist. With a background in relational work, partnered meditation, mindful business training, and classical philosophy, his work today centers around the interplay between ancient wisdom and modern practicality. A very happy husband, he lives in Austin, Texas with his wife, where he practices tea ceremonies and classical cello.
Dave is a faculty member in Third Wave's Coaching Certification Program.
In this episode, Paul F. Austin joins Dave to discuss the four types of non-dual experiences, along with their unique qualities, benefits and risks. Drawing insights from the world's spiritual traditions, Dave offers a practical framework for safely integrating the expanded states one may experience through psychedelics or deep spiritual practice.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here.
Highlights:
- Dave Burns defines non-duality, and explains how it applies to psychedelic experiences
- The four types of non-dual experiences and their qualities, benefits, and pitfalls
- Object-object non-duality
- Subject-object non-duality
- Subject-subject non-duality
- Value non-duality
- Q&A
Episode Links:
- Dave's Website
- The Jhanas: Perfect States of Concentration
- Book: The Finders by Dr. Jeffery A. Martin
- Integral Theory by Ken Wilbur
- Brahman, ultimate reality in Vedic philosophy
- The Vedas
- Zen Buddhism
- Narayana
This episode is brought to you by MycroDropsTM Powerful Micro-Elixirs made from Adaptogen and nootropic herbs and mushrooms. Get MOTIVATED, FOCUSED & GROUNDED! Use code THIRDWAVE and take $10 off your first purchase of $30 or more.
These show links may contain affiliate links. Third Wave receives a small percentage of the product price if you purchase through the above affiliate links.
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Amy Albright, DACM - Cultivating Intuition: Ways to Navigate Life, Business, & Healing
This episode is a replay from our 2022 Virtual Summit, where special guest Dr. Amy Albright shares about the interplay between psychedelics and intuition.
Dr. Amy Albright is a new sort of oracle. She stands rooted in logic-based, science-driven work and can also see into the worlds beyond. With offerings ranging from neurofeedback, intensive retreats to advanced coaching of visionaries and changemakers, to an upcoming launch of her mystery school, Dr. Amy Albright has worked for two decades with high caliber individuals to change lives and scale businesses in powerful and integrated ways. At the core of all of her offerings is her practical and science-based approach to intuition, which she both lives by and teaches.
Amy is a Core Faculty in Third Wave’s Coaching Certification Program.
In this episode, Dr. Albright leads a guided meditation to cultivate intuition, shares wisdom from her own practice with intuition and psychedelics, and finally, answers questions from the Virtual Summit audience.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here.
Highlights:
- Dr. Albright offers a guided meditation on the body, energy and breath
- Defining intuition—our “natural state”
- How intuition applies to a coaching practice
- Dr. Albright’s 4 key elements to increasing the skill of intuition
- How intuition can be woven into psychedelic journeys and integration
- How intuition plays into peak performance
- Dr. Albright’s practice using plant medicine to cultivate intuition. Lastly, her vision of the future of coaching and intuition
Episode Links:
- Dr. Albright’s Website
- Holon Experience by Dr. Albright & Dr. Drew Pierson
- Ben Greenfield (Episode 55)
These show links may contain affiliate links. Third Wave receives a small percentage of the product price if you purchase through the above affiliate links.
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Marcus Antonius Druen - The Psychedelic Map For Change: Transforming Systems from Within
Integration coach and change catalyst, Marcus Antonius Druen, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss the Psychedelic Map for Change.
Over the last 20 years, Marcus Druen optimized his career to play the ‘success game’ as a self-employed executive coach and organizational development consultant who worked for corporations such as Microsoft, Adobe, KPMG, Sanofi Biologics, EON Energy and Lidl, as well as European VCs and start-ups like Future Energy Ventures, Xempus, and Desolenator.
For the next 20 years, he endeavors to play the ‘impact game’. He is a bridge-builder between the existing system and the new one that clearly wants to emerge. Accelerated by the pandemic, Marcus is on an exciting yet daunting journey of stepping into his purpose with love and power.
Marcus is committed to elevating the consciousness of business people to co-create the regenerative renaissance. His current contribution to this movement is the Psychedelic Map For Change, which he uses as the basis for his practice as a psychedelic integration coach.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here.
Highlights:
- The impactful events in Marcus’s life that led him to coaching and consulting.
- How Marcus bridges his “two strengths in life,” psychedelics and business.
- The Psychedelic Map For Change: ‘Tool, Tribe, & Token’
- Marcus’s current projects, including his breathwork course.
Episode Links:
- Psychedelic Map For Change
- Marcus on LinkedIn
- Marcus on Twitter
- Marcus's 6-Week Transformational Breathwork Course
- Marcus’s Leading Audacious Change Podcast
- Brave Earth, Costa Rica
- Ken Wilber’s Integral theory
- Spiral Dynamics
- Teal Organizations
- Hawkins Scale of Consciousness
- Frédéric Laloux
- Book, Letting Go: The Pathway of Surrender, by Dr. David Hawkins
These show links may contain affiliate links. Third Wave receives a small percentage of the product price if you purchase through the above affiliate links.
This episode is brought to you by MycroDropsTM Powerful Micro-Elixirs made from Adaptogen and nootropic herbs and mushrooms. Get MOTIVATED, FOCUSED & GROUNDED! Use code THIRDWAVE and take $10 off your first purchase of $30 or more. Visit www.mycrodrops.com.
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