
Rootstock | Bringing the Ethereum Virtual Machine to Bitcoin
04/12/24 • 45 min
Rootstock Chief Scientist, Sergio Demian Lerner, regards the upcoming Bitcoin halving is a moment of celebration for the community and highlights the importance of transaction fees for the sustainability of the network.
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In this installment of "The Protocol," hosts Brad Keoun, the founding editor of The Protocol Newsletter, and tech journalists Sam Kessler and Margaux Nijkerk, dive into
are joined by Sergio Demian Lerner, Chief Scientist at Rootstock, to discuss his research on the Patoshi pattern and the early mining of Bitcoin. He explains how he identified that Satoshi Nakamoto had mined approximately 1.1 million Bitcoins and had never spent them, which built trust in the system. Sergio also shares his insights on the upcoming Bitcoin halving and the importance of transaction fees for the sustainability of the network.
Takeaways
- Sergio Demian Lerner identified the Patoshi pattern, which revealed that Satoshi Nakamoto had mined approximately 1.1 million Bitcoins and had never spent them, building trust in the system.
- The upcoming Bitcoin halving is a moment of celebration for the community and highlights the importance of transaction fees for the sustainability of the network.
- Rootstock aims to bring the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) to Bitcoin and focuses on financial inclusion and the use of Bitcoin collateralized stablecoins.
- The cultures of Ethereum and Bitcoin differ in terms of complexity, centralization, and fragmentation, with Ethereum being more open and welcoming to developers.
- The introduction of BitBM and the development of bridges on Bitcoin may lead to changes in the Bitcoin ecosystem, such as the addition of new opcodes for more efficient operations.
Chapters
00:00 Uncovering the Patoshi Pattern
13:51 Rootstock: Bringing the EVM to Bitcoin
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Rootstock Chief Scientist, Sergio Demian Lerner, regards the upcoming Bitcoin halving is a moment of celebration for the community and highlights the importance of transaction fees for the sustainability of the network.
This episode is sponsored by the Stellar Community Fund
Follow the show here for more.
In this installment of "The Protocol," hosts Brad Keoun, the founding editor of The Protocol Newsletter, and tech journalists Sam Kessler and Margaux Nijkerk, dive into
are joined by Sergio Demian Lerner, Chief Scientist at Rootstock, to discuss his research on the Patoshi pattern and the early mining of Bitcoin. He explains how he identified that Satoshi Nakamoto had mined approximately 1.1 million Bitcoins and had never spent them, which built trust in the system. Sergio also shares his insights on the upcoming Bitcoin halving and the importance of transaction fees for the sustainability of the network.
Takeaways
- Sergio Demian Lerner identified the Patoshi pattern, which revealed that Satoshi Nakamoto had mined approximately 1.1 million Bitcoins and had never spent them, building trust in the system.
- The upcoming Bitcoin halving is a moment of celebration for the community and highlights the importance of transaction fees for the sustainability of the network.
- Rootstock aims to bring the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) to Bitcoin and focuses on financial inclusion and the use of Bitcoin collateralized stablecoins.
- The cultures of Ethereum and Bitcoin differ in terms of complexity, centralization, and fragmentation, with Ethereum being more open and welcoming to developers.
- The introduction of BitBM and the development of bridges on Bitcoin may lead to changes in the Bitcoin ecosystem, such as the addition of new opcodes for more efficient operations.
Chapters
00:00 Uncovering the Patoshi Pattern
13:51 Rootstock: Bringing the EVM to Bitcoin
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Polygon Acquires Ethereum Scaling Startup Mir for $400M
Polygon Plans 'AggLayer,' in Bid to Synthesize Modular, Monolithic Blockchains
Polygon Releases 'Type 1 Prover,' Claiming Milestone Set by Ethereum's Vitalik Buterin
Polygon, StarkWare Tout New 'Circle STARKs' as Breakthrough for Zero-Knowledge Proofs
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From Our Sponsor:
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Polygon | Building a Unified Environment for Value and Liquidity
Brendan Farmer, Co-Founder of Polygon, gives an overview of Polygon's Ecosystem and its adoption and benefits of the Ag Layer.
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In this installment of "The Protocol," hosts Brad Keoun, the founding editor of The Protocol Newsletter, and tech journalists Sam Kessler and Margaux Nijkerk, dive into
the strategy and vision behind the Ag layer, which aims to solve the problem of L2 fragmentation on Ethereum with Brendan Farmer Co-Founder of Polygon.
Polygon is focused on building a unified environment for value, liquidity, and state in the Ethereum ecosystem. The Ag layer connects different mini-ecosystems within Polygon and allows chains to plug into the liquidity and value that already exists.
Takeaways
- Polygon's strategy is to build a unified environment for value, liquidity, and state in the Ethereum ecosystem.
- The Ag layer connects different mini-ecosystems within Polygon and allows chains to plug into existing liquidity and value.
- The Ag layer includes a builder marketplace where builders can simultaneously build blocks across multiple chains, providing users with a seamless experience.
- The goal is to create a positive-sum outcome for all chains involved and avoid fragmentation in the ecosystem.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
01:19 Polygon's Strategy and Tech Shift
06:50 Analogies for Understanding the Ag Layer
07:26 Adoption and Benefits of the Ag Layer
09:36 Overview of Polygon's Ecosystem
10:54 Polygon Today: POS Chain and ZKVM Chain
12:28 Polygon's Technological Innovations
14:35 POS Chain and the Future of Polygon
19:42 The Ag Layer as a Connector
22:02 Competition and Collaboration in the Industry
23:36 Avoiding Fragmentation and Rent-Seeking
25:23 The Challenge of Monetizing Users in Crypto
27:44 The Builder Marketplace and Block Building
28:16 MEV and the Ag Layer
32:16 Addressing Outages and Ensuring Stability
34:44 Precautions and Warnings for Users
38:27 The Eigen Layer and L2 Vision
40:17 The Den Koon Upgrade and the Blob Market
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Polygon Plans 'AggLayer,' in Bid to Synthesize Modular, Monolithic Blockchains
Polygon Releases 'Type 1 Prover,' Claiming Milestone Set by Ethereum's Vitalik Buterin
Polygon, StarkWare Tout New 'Circle STARKs' as Breakthrough for Zero-Knowledge Proofs
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Runes | A Degenerate Casino on the Bitcoin Blockchain Creative
Runes and Ordinals ‘Artist’ Creator, Casey Rodarmor has just invented two of the most dramatically impactful protocols in the blockchain industry's history and embraces cryptocurrency's speculative and gambling nature.
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In this installment of "The Protocol," hosts Brad Keoun, the founding editor of The Protocol Newsletter, and tech journalists Sam Kessler and Margaux Nijkerk,
are joined by Casey Rodarmor to discuss the launch of Runes, a protocol on the Bitcoin blockchain that allows users to create and trade meme coins. Casey expresses skepticism about the usability of layer two solutions and the potential for stablecoins on Bitcoin.
Takeaways |
- Casey Rotemar believes that many projects in the crypto space make false claims about utility and are ultimately worthless.
- Runes embraces the speculative and gambling nature of cryptocurrency, positioning itself as a degenerate casino.
- Casey discusses the potential regulatory concerns and the ability of Bitcoin to withstand a nation-state attack. Bugs were found before the launch of Runes and Ordinals, including a divide-by-zero bug and issues with high-fee transactions and the mint logic.
- Getting Bitcoin soft forks adopted can be challenging, but there are new BIP editors who are helping to merge proposals and improve the process.
- Casey is skeptical about the usability of layer two solutions and believes that developing on top of Bitcoin without modifying the base layer is often the best approach.
- There is potential for stablecoins on Bitcoin, but Casey is unsure if there is enough market demand for them.
- The names of some of the runes created by the community can be offensive, but there are also creative and funny names emerging.
- Casey is interested in developing a file-sharing protocol unrelated to blockchain or cryptocurrency, with a focus on improving the user experience.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
05:58 Runes: A Degenerate Casino on the Bitcoin Blockchain
13:58 Bitcoin's Strengths and Ethereum's Weaknesses
27:58 Bugs and Challenges Before the Launch
35:26 The Potential for Stablecoins on Bitcoin
41:59 Creative and Offensive Rune Names
49:57 Developing a User-Friendly File-Sharing Protocol
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