Black Widow vs. Marvel
09/30/21 • 59 min
From director Cate Shortland's gritty cinematic style to stars Florence Pugh and Scarlett Johansson calling B.S. on sexist jokes, how the women behind this summer's Black Widow salvaged Natasha Romanoff from the male gaze of the MCU and made an intimate family drama/comedy/tragedy under the guise of a superhero movie. Plus, the Scar-Jo v. Disney lawsuit that may have inspired the IATSE strike threatening to shut down Hollywood. Oh, and how is everyone's movie theater anxiety these days?
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Leave the show a review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes and I'll send you this book with my chapter on chosen family as a thank-you!
TRIGGER WARNING: Some discussion of child trafficking (14:25 - 15:36) and forced hysterectomies (24:56 - 25:23).
References:
- Lucrecia Martel Turned Down Black Widow After Marvel Told Her 'Don't Worry' About Action Scenes - IndieWire
- Scarlett Johansson and Florence Pugh on Finding Sisterhood on Black Widow (video) - Variety
- Scarlett Johansson on Woody Allen - The Hollywood Reporter
- Cate Shortland Turned Down Directing Black Widow. So Scarlett Johansson Called Her on Zoom - Variety
- The Sexist Black Widow Joke Salvaged by Nicole Holofcener - Little White Lies
- Florence Pugh Pushed for Black Widow's 'Involuntary Hysterectomy' Clapback after Reading the Original Script - Polygon
- Scarlett Johansson and Florence Pugh on Black Widow Fighting Poses - The Hollywood Reporter
- Hair Ties and No Heels: The Evolution of the Female Superhero Costume is Finally Here - Entertainment Weekly
- Dear Carolyn: What Should Adults Do When They Don't Like Their Parents? - The Washington Post
- TimesUp Condemns Disney for "Gendered Character Attack" on Scarlett Johansson in her Disney Lawsuit - Deadline
- When it Comes to Paying Comic Book Writers, Marvel is the Real Vil
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From director Cate Shortland's gritty cinematic style to stars Florence Pugh and Scarlett Johansson calling B.S. on sexist jokes, how the women behind this summer's Black Widow salvaged Natasha Romanoff from the male gaze of the MCU and made an intimate family drama/comedy/tragedy under the guise of a superhero movie. Plus, the Scar-Jo v. Disney lawsuit that may have inspired the IATSE strike threatening to shut down Hollywood. Oh, and how is everyone's movie theater anxiety these days?
Videos for this episode are coming soon!! Keep an eye out for them on Instagram and our brand new Youtube channel!
Leave the show a review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes and I'll send you this book with my chapter on chosen family as a thank-you!
TRIGGER WARNING: Some discussion of child trafficking (14:25 - 15:36) and forced hysterectomies (24:56 - 25:23).
References:
- Lucrecia Martel Turned Down Black Widow After Marvel Told Her 'Don't Worry' About Action Scenes - IndieWire
- Scarlett Johansson and Florence Pugh on Finding Sisterhood on Black Widow (video) - Variety
- Scarlett Johansson on Woody Allen - The Hollywood Reporter
- Cate Shortland Turned Down Directing Black Widow. So Scarlett Johansson Called Her on Zoom - Variety
- The Sexist Black Widow Joke Salvaged by Nicole Holofcener - Little White Lies
- Florence Pugh Pushed for Black Widow's 'Involuntary Hysterectomy' Clapback after Reading the Original Script - Polygon
- Scarlett Johansson and Florence Pugh on Black Widow Fighting Poses - The Hollywood Reporter
- Hair Ties and No Heels: The Evolution of the Female Superhero Costume is Finally Here - Entertainment Weekly
- Dear Carolyn: What Should Adults Do When They Don't Like Their Parents? - The Washington Post
- TimesUp Condemns Disney for "Gendered Character Attack" on Scarlett Johansson in her Disney Lawsuit - Deadline
- When it Comes to Paying Comic Book Writers, Marvel is the Real Vil
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Mental Health in TV & Film: Yikes! From 'Psycho' to '13 Reasons Why'
With the pandemic wreaking havoc on our collective sanity, what better time to talk about mental health representation in media! Licensed Social Worker and friend of the show Megan Wykhuis is back to lay out the Seven Big Bad Mental Illness Tropes that movies/TV just can't get enough of. Then we go hard on some classic but problematic faves, Hollywood's misguided obsession with "crazy"/violent white men, and the most irresponsible show ever to air (can you guess?)!
Next time, for contrast, we'll rave about our favorite *positive* portrayals of mental illness (Crazy Ex-Girlfriend! The Magicians! My Mad Fat Diary!) and debate a few that are...er, complicated.
What are some of your favorite shows/movies/characters dealing with mental illness or addiction? Let me know and we might share your thoughts in the next episode! Tweet @popculty, or send a voice memo/email to [email protected].
CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of mental illness throughout, some discussion of addiction (~00:40:30 - 00:46:30), brief mentions of sexual assault, brief mentions of mass/school shootings, moderate-heavy discussion of suicide/self-harm (~00:57:30 - 01:10:00).
If you are in crisis, please reach out to one of the support organizations below:
- NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) helpline: 800-950-NAMI
- RAINN (Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network) Sexual Assault Hotline: 800-656-HOPE
- SAMHSA (Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) National Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP
References:
- From 'Split' to 'Psycho': Why Cinema Fails Dissociative Identity Disorder - The Guardian
- Mind Over Pop Culture: 'Fatal Attraction' - Mental Health America
- Glenn Close Regrets How 'Fatal Attraction' Portrayed Mental Illness - The Mercury News
- Release of '13 Reasons Why' Associated with Increase in Youth Suicide Rates - NIH (National Institutes of Health)
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Villanelle Lives: 'Killing Eve' Fans Fight to Bury a Deadly Trope
When the critically-acclaimed TV series Killing Eve shocked viewers by ending with the oldest homophobic trope known as Bury Your Gays, it re-opened old wounds for the LGBTQ+ community. But fans are turning their betrayal into action, to ensure the next generation of queer viewers get to see happy endings for the characters they love - and themselves.
Take action:
- Donate: Help the Killing Eve Billboard Project reach their goal
- View: The Killing Eve Open Letter Project
- Email: AMC+ and BBC America - Cancel your subscriptions and tell them why
References:
- The Harmful Trope That's Still Haunting Queer TV - AJ Willingham (CNN)
- Killing Eve Chose Cruelty - Angelica Jade Bastien (Vulture)
- Villanelle's Real Killer? Miserable British Puritanism - Adi Tantimedh (Bleeding Cool)
- The Killing Eve Finale Was Violent in the Worst Way - Jocelyn (Writing Through the Night)
- The Psychological Impact of the Killing Eve Series Finale - Jan E. Estrellado, PhD. (Psychology Today)
- The Trevor Project memorial fund
Thank you:
Viktorija (@anevolutionarynecessity)
@loving-villanelle
@alicia_desousa
@bertimic
@bigswisses
@ke_sufferer
@fkacernes
anon and @horde-princess
@killingeveeditx
@doks-aux
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The Popculty Podcast - Black Widow vs. Marvel
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[intense trailer music] You don't know everything about me. I've lived a lot of lives... [music fades to background]
SJAfter a year hiatus, the summer blockbuster season returned - Or at least as much as it could, while a pandemic still rages. Sequels and reboots abound, but if you're looking for a kick-ass almost entirely female action/superhero movie, Marvel's Black Widow is where it's at. Delayed a fu
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