
A Spooky & Gay Crossover! Part 1: Hereditary
10/31/22 • 53 min
It's a two-part Halloween crossover event! Carver Casey of the Spooky & Gay with Carver & Jay podcast joins me to talk personal histories of horror and whether the films of A24 auteur darling Ari Aster are all they're cracked up to be. In this episode, we turn our queer lens on Hereditary - Transmasculine allegory or transphobic trash? Listen to find out where we land, and join us next week for Part 2, when we tackle his follow-up folk horror classic Midsommar!
Article discussed: Trans Horror Stories and Society's Fear of the Transmasculine Body - Sasha Geffen (Them.)
Women-Directed Horror Recs:
- Raw (2016) dir. Julia Ducournau
- Good Manners/As Boas Maneiras (2017) dir. Juliana Rojas & Marco Dutra
- A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night (2014) dir. Ana Lily Amirpour
- Carmilla (2019) dir. Emily Harris
- Fear Street trilogy (2021) dir. Leigh Janiak [ Netflix]
- The Haunting of Bly Manor (2020) [Netflix]
- Lovecraft Country (2020) [HBO Max]
- Brand New Cherry Flavor (2021) [Netflix]
- Evil (2019 - ) [Paramount+]
Follow Carver on Twitter and TikTok.
Spooky synth outro music by Ross Bugden.
Follow Popculty on Tumblr, Twitter and Instagram, and watch video episodes on our brand-new Youtube channel!
It's a two-part Halloween crossover event! Carver Casey of the Spooky & Gay with Carver & Jay podcast joins me to talk personal histories of horror and whether the films of A24 auteur darling Ari Aster are all they're cracked up to be. In this episode, we turn our queer lens on Hereditary - Transmasculine allegory or transphobic trash? Listen to find out where we land, and join us next week for Part 2, when we tackle his follow-up folk horror classic Midsommar!
Article discussed: Trans Horror Stories and Society's Fear of the Transmasculine Body - Sasha Geffen (Them.)
Women-Directed Horror Recs:
- Raw (2016) dir. Julia Ducournau
- Good Manners/As Boas Maneiras (2017) dir. Juliana Rojas & Marco Dutra
- A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night (2014) dir. Ana Lily Amirpour
- Carmilla (2019) dir. Emily Harris
- Fear Street trilogy (2021) dir. Leigh Janiak [ Netflix]
- The Haunting of Bly Manor (2020) [Netflix]
- Lovecraft Country (2020) [HBO Max]
- Brand New Cherry Flavor (2021) [Netflix]
- Evil (2019 - ) [Paramount+]
Follow Carver on Twitter and TikTok.
Spooky synth outro music by Ross Bugden.
Follow Popculty on Tumblr, Twitter and Instagram, and watch video episodes on our brand-new Youtube channel!
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Villanelle Lives: 'Killing Eve' Fans Fight to Bury a Deadly Trope
When the critically-acclaimed TV series Killing Eve shocked viewers by ending with the oldest homophobic trope known as Bury Your Gays, it re-opened old wounds for the LGBTQ+ community. But fans are turning their betrayal into action, to ensure the next generation of queer viewers get to see happy endings for the characters they love - and themselves.
Take action:
- Donate: Help the Killing Eve Billboard Project reach their goal
- View: The Killing Eve Open Letter Project
- Email: AMC+ and BBC America - Cancel your subscriptions and tell them why
References:
- The Harmful Trope That's Still Haunting Queer TV - AJ Willingham (CNN)
- Killing Eve Chose Cruelty - Angelica Jade Bastien (Vulture)
- Villanelle's Real Killer? Miserable British Puritanism - Adi Tantimedh (Bleeding Cool)
- The Killing Eve Finale Was Violent in the Worst Way - Jocelyn (Writing Through the Night)
- The Psychological Impact of the Killing Eve Series Finale - Jan E. Estrellado, PhD. (Psychology Today)
- The Trevor Project memorial fund
Thank you:
Viktorija (@anevolutionarynecessity)
@loving-villanelle
@alicia_desousa
@bertimic
@bigswisses
@ke_sufferer
@fkacernes
anon and @horde-princess
@killingeveeditx
@doks-aux
Intro music by Gossip. Outro music by Chvrches.
Logo by Max Badger.
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A Spooky & Gay Crossover! Part 2: Midsommar
After a little unplanned hiatus, Popculty is BACK with Part 2 of our Halloween crossover event! Friend of the pod and Spooky & Gay co-host Carver Casey joins me once again to slice and dice Ari Aster's second film, Midsommar-- the one we actually liked (mostly)! Is it a 'good for her' movie? Cult propaganda? A surprisingly cathartic exploration of grief? We've got thoughts! Plus, side-trips into final girls, the dark history of dance marathons, and of course, Florence Pugh supremacy.
Carver's horror recs:
Next of Kin (1982) dir. Tony Williams
12-Hour Shift (2020) dir. Brea Grant
Pet (2016) dir. Carles Torrens [TW: Not for the squeamish!]
SJ's horror recs:
Evil (4 seasons, Paramount+)
Dead Ringers (1 season, Amazon Prime)
The Last of Us (1 season, HBO/Max)
Bodies Bodies Bodies (2022) dir. Halina Reijn
Fear Street trilogy (2021) dir. Leigh Janiak
References:
- Midsommar, except it's just Dani looking at Christian like he's the shittiest boyfriend ever, set to Wii music
- Florence Pugh on the Off Menu podcast
- The Grim, Depression-Era Origins of Dance Marathons - Atlas Obscura
- Atlas Obscura podcast: Hargaberget
Follow Carver on TikTok.
Follow Popculty on Tumblr, Twitter and Instagram, and watch video episodes on our brand-new Youtube channel!
The Popculty Podcast - A Spooky & Gay Crossover! Part 1: Hereditary
Transcript
[sings] Spooky and gay, spooky and gay, spooky and gay, with Carver and SJ! [normal voice] Hey, Carver!
Carver Casey[laughs] Hi! How are you, SJ?
SJI'm super excited to do this crossover episode. I don't think either of us have done one on our respective shows, right?
Carver CaseyAbsolutely, this is our first crossover.<
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