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Phocion
The Plutarch Podcast
11/11/22 • 64 min
Full Show Notes Available at https://plutarch.life/phocion
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Roman Parallel - Cato the Younger (95–46 BC)
Phocion was three years old when Socrates died in 399 and then lives through the reigns of Philip, Alexander, and dies under Cassander's takeover of Athens. Though less well-known than his contemporary, Demosthenes, Plutarch wants us to remember him as a political leader who did the best he could with a bad situation.
Key Vices and Virtues
- Bravery (ἀνδρεῖος) - Phocion tempers it with caution, but leads in person up to and past the age of 80!
- Justice (δικαιοσύνη) - Phocion's realism that Athens does not have the power to resist the Macedonians makes him a great, if still ignored, advocate for justice. He wants to preserve the peace and harmony of the city, while receiving as fair a deal as he can for Athens, which will be conquered by an army four times in his life.
- Moderation (σωφροσύνη) - Sometimes also translated as “prudence,” this is not only the virtue that keeps Phocion from accepting any bribes, but also the virtue he tries to give to the Athenian people in their erratic behavior to their Macedonian overlords. His wife also practices this virtue, but his son never learns it from either parent (cf. Plato's Meno which examines whether or not virtue can be taught and looks at famous leaders whose sons did not have the same virtues as their fathers).
- Austerity (αὐστηρόν) - Not one of Aristotle's virtues, but one Plutarch takes pains to highlight. Whether it's walking barefoot, wearing fewer clothes than necessary, or controlling even things like laughter and crying, Phocion struck everyone as toughest first on himself, and then only secondarily hard on others.
- Simplicity (ἀφελείᾳ) - While the ancient Greeks (and Romans) never considered poverty a virtue as the Christians later did, there was a respect for the simplicity of knowing your limits. This knowledge of what is necessary for life makes Phocion (and his wife, see section 19) reliable and incorruptible.
Timoleon
The Plutarch Podcast
07/11/22 • 45 min
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Important People
Timophanes - Timoleon’s brother and the first tyrant we meet in this story. His name, rather fittingly, means "seems honorable."
Dionysius II - The tyrant whom Dion overthrew, but did not execute. He returns to power after Dion’s death only to be replaced by Hicetas.
Hicetas - The tyrant who replaces Dionysius II, who had allied with the Carthaginians to gain power. Starting out allied with the Corinthians, he becomes Timoleon’s main enemy in the fight to free Syracuse.
Mago - Carthaginian general allied with Hicetas and leading a formidable navy. He’s the first Carthaginian general to “capture” Syracuse, though it’s Hicetas who hands the city over.
Plato - Though dead by the time Timoleon comes to power, he haunts this dialogue both in its analysis of tyranny and its understanding of justice.
Key Virtues and Vices
Justice (δίκη - dikē) - Plutarch argues (30.9) that Justice preserved Timoleon’s good fortune. With this in mind, it’s helpful to remember that Dion didn’t have the same good fortune, though he seems to have deserved it. Perhaps he stepped off the road of Justice and Plutarch allows us to decide where and when. Timoleon also puts justice and honor over convenience (5.1), his brother acts without justice (4.5) when he becomes tyrant, and Timoleon not only acts justly (5.1; 10.7; 29.6), but physically restores the courts of justice (22.3) to the democracy of Syracuse that before had to rely on the whims of the tyrant.
Gentleness (πραότης - praotēs) - Though not mentioned often, it's important for us to remember that this is a virtue listed explicitly in Aristotle's Ethics and one that Plutarch takes great interest in for his characters. Timoleon is introduced to us as gentle (3.4), but not with tyrants and base men. We're also told at the end that he dealt gently and justly with friends (37.5), but boldly and powerfully against barbarians (i.e. Carthaginians in this case). See Plutarch's "On the Moderation of Anger" or Aristotle's Ethics Book 4, Ch. 5 (1125b35) for a more thorough discussion of this virtue and its most obvious excess: anger.
Wisdom (φρονήσις - phronēsis) - Especially on the heels of Dion’s life, Timoleon just strikes us as lucky. Yet, Plutarch primes us in the preface (0.8) to read with an eye for his wise choices and not to judge every decision by its (usually positive) outcome. Plato's wisdom even helps men like Dionysius (15.4)
External Links
- Ambleside Online's Study Guide for Timoleon
- Herman Melville's Poem Timoleon, of which I read the eighth and final stanza in the podcast
- English Translation of Plutarch's Life of Timoleon
- Greek and English of Plutarch's Life of Timoleon (Perseus)
- Art of Manliness
Alcibiades
The Plutarch Podcast
09/11/21 • 48 min
Alcibiades fought and strategized for Athens, Sparta, Persia, Athens (again), and Thrace, proving that he fought the entire time only for himself. Was it vanity or pride? Enjoy the first truly negative portrayal Plutarch tries to give, though Plutarch in all his humanity can still defend Alcibiades from his most malicious detractors.
Parallel: Coriolanus
Important People
Spartans:
- Agis II - Spartan King at the time Alcibiades defects to the Spartans. Alcibiades advises Agis to occupy Deceleia, preventing the Athenians from accessing their farms for the remainder of the war.
- Timaea - Spartan Queen
- Leotychides - son of Timaea and Alcibiades, disinherited from the throne.
- Lysander - Wily Spartan naval commander who finally manages to defeat the Athenians decisively at sea. He then besieges Athens and sets up a government of thirty tyrannical oligarchs backed up by a Spartan bodyguard. Alcibiades wisely never engages directly with Lysander, though one of his lietuenant does in Alcibiades's absence.
Persians:
- Pharnabazus - One of two powerful Persian satraps in Western Asia Minor with which Alcibiades fights once while trying to keep access to the Black Sea open for Athens. The second time they meet, Alcibiades has abandoned Athens for the last time and seeks to become what Themistocles was, a resident and advisor of the Persian Empire.
- Tissaphernes - A scheming satrap with a great deal in common with Alcibiades. He does and says what he needs to to get his own way. We'll see him again in the Life of Agesilaus.
- Cyrus - Younger son of the Persian King Darius II, Cyrus comes out to Asia Minor to deal with squabbling satraps and to crush Athens for good. He allies himself with Lysander and funds the navy that ultimately destroys Athens.
Athenians:
- Nicias - Alcibiades's main political rival in Athens, famous for his superstition and his vacillation, Alcibiades's confidence and charisma attract a much larger following.
- Antiochus - A vice-commander left in charge while Alcibiades away. He ignore Alc's direct command. notto engage with Lysander and in the ensuing battle loses and dies.
Important Places
Deceleia (23.2) - A mountain citadel of Attica, about 14 miles from Athens towards Boeotia, commanding the Athenian plain and the shortest routes to Euboea and Boeotia, occupied by the Spartans in 413 B.C. at Alcibiades's advice!
Samos (25) - Island in the east-central Aegean originally conquered by Pericles but serving as a strategic base for the Athenian navy during the Peloponnesian Wars. When an oligarchic revolution occurs in Athens, Samos becomes the base-in-exile of the democratic faction, which Alcibiades leads triumphantly home.
Nicias
The Plutarch Podcast
08/12/21 • 54 min
Nicias helps us understand why losers are still worth studying. Like Cassandra, he prophesied for the Athenian people that they could not defeat Syracuse and then when selected as a leader for the expedition, he comes quite close to overturning his own prophecy.
See the full show notes here.
Parallel: Crassus
Important People
- Cleon - The first demagogue to exert influence after Pericles's death, he prosecuted the war against Sparta fairly succesfully, though at much greater loss of life than Pericles had, only to die about 10 years after the war had begun in a battle to regain a former Athenian conquest: Amphipolis.
- Alcibiades - Brazen and unpredictable, this student of Socrates will get his fair treatment in the life right after this one. He makes an appearance here as a pro-war demagogue, talented general, and traitor to the Athenians.
- Lamachus - One of the original three generals sent to Syracuse. He dies in a duel he initiated against a Syracusan commander.
- Demosthenes - Not the orator of a couple generations later. A talented general during the Peloponnesian War that is sent to replace Alcibiades and Lamachus and bring fresh perspective and troops.
- Gylippus - The Spartan general hired by the Syracusans to lead their troops and defeat Athens. With the help of the Corinthian naval commander Gongylus, he succeeds.
Important Places
Delos - An island in the middle of the Aegean Sea, sacred to Apollo, on which Nicias funds an elaborate choral festival. It used to be the site of the taxes collected for the Delian League, but under Pericles this money had been moved to Athens. Many historians take this move to signal the death of the League and the beginning of the Athenian Empire.
Syracuse - Largest and wealthiest polis on the island of Sicily, Syracuse had made enough enemies who sought the help of Athens in freeing them from Syracuse's oversight.
Egesta (Segesta) and Leontini - The smaller Sicilian poleis that ask Athens for help against Syracuse.
Plemmyrium (see map below) - The strategic promontory which Nicias controls for much of the battle against Syracuse. Control of this promontory allows him access to his supply lines back in Athens by means of the sea. When he loses access to this, his situation grows dire rather quickly as retreat is almost entirely cut off.
Epipolae (see map below) - A triangular plateau rising above the city of Syracuse allowing a view inside the city. Since it is surrounded on all sides by cliffs, it's also an easily defensible position. While Nicias captures this strategically important landmass, he also uses its position to oversee the siege of Syracuse as he orders his soldier to build a wall around the entire polis, about the same size, according to Plutarch, as the wall around Athens.
Thapsus - Nicias's chosen landing point, about 5 miles north of Syracuse (not on the map below). Fun fact: it happens to be the archaeological site in which archaeologists have found the oldest signs of an inhabited town on the island of Sicily.
Lessons from the Lawgivers
The Plutarch Podcast
04/29/21 • 23 min
We're wrapping season 2 with a bonus episode looking back at Plutarch's Parallels. We discuss the six biographies of the men who laids the foundations for Greek and Roman greatness. We'll also answer a couple questions that come up, like "Why are the comparison essays so much shorter than the biographies?" and "Why compare the Greek and Roman life at all?"
Romulus
The Plutarch Podcast
12/11/20 • 36 min
Parallel - Theseus
Origin Stories
- Rome: What's in a name?
- From Aeneas to Alba Longa
- Romulus and Remus: Childhood
- Left to die by a river
- Wolf and woodpecker
- Romulus and Remus: Off to Found a City
- Rome is for runaways! Open the gates and seize the...day?
- Location, location, location!
- Vultures? 6/12? First/Second?
- Walls and Ditches – death of Remus
- Plows the circumference: pomerium etym.
Rome's Birthday - April 21, 753 BC
Roman Customs: More Etymologies and etiologies
Sabine Women
- Not the Sobbin' Women...
- Did Romulus need women or want war?
- R. sets up a feast (finds an altar?)
- Conses < consilium
- On my signal...
- How many taken?
- 30, 527, or 683?
Origin of the Roman Triumph
- Acron v. Romulus: 1 v. 1
- R. wins and dedicates his armor to Jupiter
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780–1867), Romulus’ Victory over Acron (i.e. the first Roman Triumph), (1812), tempera on canvas, 276 x 530 cm, École des Beaux Arts, Paris. Wikimedia Commons.
Plutarch's Walking Tour of Rome
- Tarpeian Rock
- Lacus Curtius
- Jupiter Stator
- Etym. Quirites?
Civic Duties
- Three Tribes
- 100 more Senators
- Privileges for Women
- Feasts, old and new
- Vestals, sacred fire (more on this in the Life of Numa)
- Lituus and Augurs
- Laws
- Divorce
- Murder / Parricide
Romulus' End and Rome's Beginning
- Tatius, co-king, killed
- Haughty King
- Lictors – etym.
- Numitor dies; Romulus inherits Alba
- Romulus disappears
- Murdered?
- Taken up into heaven?
- Romulus' advice to the Romans:
- "Tell the Romans that if they practice self-restraint, and add to it valor, they will reach the utmost heights of human power."
Theseus
The Plutarch Podcast
11/11/20 • 34 min
Although Theseus never actually existed, Plutarch, in documenting his life, wants to cull important lessons for Greeks and Romans. Just as Theseus wrestles with villains threatening civilization, Plutarch forces his readers to grapple with the role of virtue in politics, or, less abstractly, the role the virtuous man has to play in his polis: i.e. how to be a citizen rather than a subject. This becomes explicit at the end of Theseus's life when he ceases to be a good king and becomes a tyrant, stripping citizenship from the Athenians by returning them to subjugation under a king.
Historical Context - Emergence from the Dark Ages
- Bronze-Age to Iron Age transition:
- Dark Ages:
- What were they?
- Bronze Age civilizations:
- Egypt
- Hittites
- Sumer/Akkad/Babylonians
- Minoans and Myceneans (Aegean)
- Middle Period:
- As most major civilizations in decline, the smaller civilizations seem to rise and fill in the gaps:
- Phoenicians
- Hebrews
- Arameans
- Philistines
- For the Greeks, though, they lose writing and reading and see a mass exodus from the old urban centers of Mycenean Greece.
- As most major civilizations in decline, the smaller civilizations seem to rise and fill in the gaps:
- Iron Age civilizations:
- Neo-Assyrians
- Neo-Babylonians
- Persians
- Greeks
- Romans
- Etc...
- Dark Ages:
Outline
- Parentage
- Comes of age
- Delphi
- Theseus’s haircut
- Sword and Sandals under a rock
- Sea = safe
- Land = dangerous
- Theseus personally cleans up the land around the Saronic Gulf
- @ Epidaurus (wins his club)
- On the isthmus of Corinth
- Crommyonian Sow
- Wrestles near Eleusis
- Procrustes
- Cf. Hercules and how he killed his monsters and fiends
- Theseus receives first real hospitality at the Cephisus River, just outside of Athens
- Arrival in Athens
- Medea!? Poison!?
- Recognition and Inheritance
- Revolt!
- First battle in Athens (neighborhoods named)
- Bull of Marathon
- Theseus and the Minotaur
- Plague and Expiation
- The most “likely” (common?) story
- Was Minos good/bad?
- Why does Plutarch have to defend Minos?
- Alternative stories
- Vary by geographic region
- Return: the sail!
- Philosophical Problems: The Ship of Theseus
- Theseus unites Athens and Attica
- Centralizes authority
- Institutes common feasts
- Oscophoria
- Panathenaic Festival
- Establishes three classes of citizen:
- Nobles
- Craftsmen
- Farmers
- Gives nobles most power over law and religion
- Opens Athens as a “commonwealth of all nations” (cf. Romulus welcoming refugees)
- The many other adventures of Theseus
- The Amazons
- Source for Shakespeare’s Hippolyta and Theseus in Midsummer Night’s Dream?
- Second battle in Athens, more neighborhoods named
- False marriages
- False adventures
- Theseus did NOT participate in
- Jason and the Argonauts
- Meleager and the Boar (cf. Iliad Book 9; Ovid Metamorphoses Bk. 7/8)
- Seven Against Thebes
- Theseus did NOT participate in
- His friendship with Perithous
- Did involve him in the battle of the Lapiths and Centaurs
- Seizure of Helen
- Ends up in prison to the King of Molossus
- Heracles frees him
- The Amazons
- Theseus returns to Athens
- Castor and Pollux
- brothers of Helen and mythical Spartans
- causing trouble in Athens
- Castor and Pollux
Cicero
The Plutarch Podcast
10/11/20 • 44 min
Parallel - Demosthenes
Cicero lived and died as a political failure. In what ways, then, is his failure worth studying. In what ways did he succeed? In many ways, he and Vergil become the teachers of Western Europe all the way down to the present day. Can we declare Cicero a victor in the long-run, or should we study only his failures as a warning?
Outline
- Cicero's Early Political Rise
- Military tribune under Sulla in Italy
- Pro Rosciō – defends a political enemy of Sulla’s
- Flees to Greece
- Delphic advice
- Fluent in Greek, studying Greek philosophy
- Quaestor in Sicily
- Fights corruption
- Breadbasket of Italy (before the Romans conquered Egypt)
- Praetor in Rome
- Consulship – height of Cicero's powers
- Conspiracy of Catiline
- Catiline not elected consul
- Turns to force and fire to overthrow the Senate and the city of Rome
- Trial before the Senate?
- Death Penalty?
- Caesar’s speech - clementia
- Cato’s speech – treason deserves death, always has.
- Vixerunt – they have lived! (i.e. they’re dead)
- Cato declares Cicero pater patriae “father of the fatherland”
- Cicero later reminisces about the event as “arma togae cedunt” (De Officiis I.77)
- Arms yield to the toga (On duties I.77)
- Conspiracy of Catiline
- Bona Dea Scandal and Exile
- Publius Clodius Pulcher changes from friend to enemy
- Cicero flees, then Clodius officially banishes him
- Depressed in Greece (cf. Demosthenes depressed in Troezen)
- Return from Exile and First Round of Civil War
- Returns like a hero
- Forgiven by Caesar (cf. Demosthenes forgiven by Alexander)
- Not included in Brutus and Cassius’ conspiracy
- see Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar Act II, scene i
- Brutus says “He will never follow any thing / That other men begin”
- Second Round of Civil War
- The Philippics – consciously comparing the tyranny of Philip with the tyranny of Antony
- Attacks Mark Antony explicitly
- Antony retaliates with proscription (etym.)
- Octavian not strong enough to save Cicero
- Act IV, scene I of Shakespeare’s “Julius Caesar”
- The Philippics – consciously comparing the tyranny of Philip with the tyranny of Antony
- History written by the victors?
- Augustus later sees his nephew reading a book of Cicero... how does he react?
- Octavian eventually removes statues and honors of Mark Antony, but Cicero’s writing is preserved.
- One of the best-preserved authors from pagan antiquity
- Thanks to Tiro and Atticus
- Influenced:
- St. Jerome
- St. Augustine
- Erasmus
- Luther
- Locke
- Hume
- Jefferson
- Adams
- Strongest influence in bringing together Latin and Greek thought
- Much like Plutarch
- Wanted to "teach philosophy to speak Latin" (Tusc. 2.5)
- philosophia nascatur Latinis quidem litteris ex his temp
- One of the best-preserved authors from pagan antiquity
Agis
The Plutarch Podcast
01/11/24 • 49 min
Important People
Lycurgus - ancient lawgiver, whose biography Plutarch also wrote, and to whom everyone refers constantly in this life as the original set of laws they are trying to hearken back to.
Leonidas - one of two kings of Sparta (along with Agis, the protagonist of this life) who first secretly and then openly resists and thwarts Agis’s reforms at every turn.
Lysander - Not the Lysander who was a contemporary of Agesilaus, but a new Lysander, elected as ephor and one of the main allies for Agis in his implementation of the new Spartan system.
Important Places
Sparta - This is the story of Sparta's last gasp attempt to become an important political and military influence in the Peloponnesus.
Virtues
Discretion (or piety?) - εὐλάβεια - Some interesting shades of meaning cover this one. The conventional Greek word for piety is εὐσέβεια (eusebeia), but this less common word can work like our English word pride. That is, it can be considered a vice or a virtue depending on the context. No one wants to be prideful, but we certainly allow and often even encourage people to be proud of the good things they've done for their communities.
Gentleness - πρᾶον - A common theme we've seen in lives as disparate as Pericles, Aristides, and Aemilius Paullus. Also a contrast to those who lack it like Coriolanus or Pelopidas. Ultimately, the gentle leaders are the greater ones.
Humane / Kindness - φιλάνθρωπον - Another virtue that shows up often among Plutarch's greatest heroes. This particular virtue seems to be part of Agis's downfall. In what way can our vices be our undoing? Is it like the life of Dion where tyrants feel challenged by virtuous living? Or was it something else?
Key Vices
- greed - πλεονεξία (cf. 10)
- parsimony - μικρολογία
- luxury - ἀπολαύσει
- softness - μαλακία (cf. 10)
- extravagance - πολυτέλεια
Captain Ideas
What is a citizen?
- A person born and raised in a certain place and manner?
- Someone who adopts the language, customs, and laws of the land in which they reside?
When and how should citizens fight for regime change?
When and how should citizens admit defeat and work within an unjust or imperfect system of government?
When in a leadership position, how does one know to instigate a change? Is every virtue to be insisted upon all the time by the laws?
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