
What I wish I knew before becoming a senior minister - with Jon Kwan and Dave Keun
07/16/24 • 33 min
What would Dave Keun and Jon Kwan like to tell their younger selves if they could travel back in time before they took on the position of senior minister?
How has their sense of ownership changed?
What has been most difficult about the transition to the role? What mistakes have they made?
Dave Keun has been senior minister of Kellyville Anglican Church in Sydney’s North West since March 2022.
Jon Kwan has been lead pastor of St David’s Forestville (on Sydney’s Northern Beaches) since May 2022.
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What would Dave Keun and Jon Kwan like to tell their younger selves if they could travel back in time before they took on the position of senior minister?
How has their sense of ownership changed?
What has been most difficult about the transition to the role? What mistakes have they made?
Dave Keun has been senior minister of Kellyville Anglican Church in Sydney’s North West since March 2022.
Jon Kwan has been lead pastor of St David’s Forestville (on Sydney’s Northern Beaches) since May 2022.
The Church Co
http://www.thechurchco.com is a website and app platform built specifically for churches.
Gavin and Paul from ChurchSuite are at Reach Australia and at a special Melbourne taster day on 26 May 2025.
Reach Australia National Conference
Reach Australia’s National Conference is from 19 to 22 May 2025 on the Central Coast of NSW. This year’s theme is URGENT: The Necessary Task of Mission Before Christ Returns. For more info.
Anglican Aid
Anglican Aid - To find out more about how to support Anglican Aid.
Dominic Steele's preaching at Village
Subscribe to Dominic Steele's weekly sermons from the Village Church website.
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Become a regular financial supporter of The Pastor's Heart via Patreon.
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The chair of Gafcon Laurent Mbunda and chair of Global South Justin Badi Arama are to meet to work out a roadmap for the resetting of the Anglican Communion.
Global South Anglicans have endorsed the Former Sydney Archbishop Glenn Davies call for the communion to be reset on biblical foundations. The Global South have called on their Primates to work with the GAFCON Primates Council and other Orthodox leaders to reset the communion on its biblical foundations as a matter of urgency.
In other Anglican news.
- The Church of England General Synod is meeting in York. They are considering whether to press go to move towards the next stage of endorsing their bishops’ proposals for same sex blessing. Orthodox Anglicans united under a banner called The Alliance are calling for structural differentiation in England (essentially a new province). The Bishop of Oxford has hit back telling The Alliance to take a running jump.
- Orthodox Anglicans from across Australasia gathered in Brisbane last week. New daughter churches are being planted within the fledging diocese of the Southern Cross.
- A new Archbishop appointed to lead the Anglican Church of North America. Steve Wood will replace Foley Beach.
- A collective meeting of orthodox leaders in Cairo has met for a week on ways that faithful christians might be able to reset the Communion. The Global South Anglicans met in Cairo the week before that and voted to call for the chair of the Global South Justin Badi Arama to work with the chair of Gafcon to reset the communion.
Our guests are new General Secretary of Gafcon Paul Donison and new Bishop of the Diocese of the Southern Cross (and former Archbishop of Sydney) Glenn Davies.
The Church Co
http://www.thechurchco.com is a website and app platform built specifically for churches.
Gavin and Paul from ChurchSuite are at Reach Australia and at a special Melbourne taster day on 26 May 2025.
Reach Australia National Conference
Reach Australia’s National Conference is from 19 to 22 May 2025 on the Central Coast of NSW. This year’s theme is URGENT: The Necessary Task of Mission Before Christ Returns. For more info.
Anglican Aid
Anglican Aid - To find out more about how to support Anglican Aid.
Dominic Steele's preaching at Village
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We unpack how ministry challenges can lead to a sense of disillusionment, especially among millennials, plus a way back.
The Church Co
http://www.thechurchco.com is a website and app platform built specifically for churches.
Gavin and Paul from ChurchSuite are at Reach Australia and at a special Melbourne taster day on 26 May 2025.
Reach Australia National Conference
Reach Australia’s National Conference is from 19 to 22 May 2025 on the Central Coast of NSW. This year’s theme is URGENT: The Necessary Task of Mission Before Christ Returns. For more info.
Anglican Aid
Anglican Aid - To find out more about how to support Anglican Aid.
Dominic Steele's preaching at Village
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The Pastor's Heart with Dominic Steele - What I wish I knew before becoming a senior minister - with Jon Kwan and Dave Keun
Transcript
It is the pastor's heart and Dominic Steele , and today , what . I wish I knew before I took on the role of senior minister . John Kwan and David Kuhn are our guests . What if you are new in the role of senior minister at a church or you're putting your hand up for such a role ? What would Dave Kuhn and John Kwan like to tell their younger selves if they could travel back
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