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The Pastor's Heart with Dominic Steele - Gary Millar: Godliness vs Effectiveness - the Both/And Dilemma

Gary Millar: Godliness vs Effectiveness - the Both/And Dilemma

01/28/25 • 35 min

The Pastor's Heart with Dominic Steele

Godliness vs Effectiveness - the Both/And Ministry dilemma

  • Godliness vs Effectiveness
  • Theology vs Pragmatics
  • People centered vs Organisationally minded
  • Leading from the front vs Serving others
  • Courage to take a stand vs Quick to submit
  • Others know I am one of them vs I am set apart to lead
  • I lead patiently vs I lead with a sense of urgency

Most Christians at some point do start to wonder if they are the real deal. What God asks of us is so far reaching, so all encompassing, that when we come up short, we start to ask ourselves “Am I an imposter?” “Should I really be a leader?” and perhaps/Am even a Christian at all?’

Gary Millar is the Principal of Queensland’s Theological College and author of a new book ‘Both/And Ministry.’

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Godliness vs Effectiveness - the Both/And Ministry dilemma

  • Godliness vs Effectiveness
  • Theology vs Pragmatics
  • People centered vs Organisationally minded
  • Leading from the front vs Serving others
  • Courage to take a stand vs Quick to submit
  • Others know I am one of them vs I am set apart to lead
  • I lead patiently vs I lead with a sense of urgency

Most Christians at some point do start to wonder if they are the real deal. What God asks of us is so far reaching, so all encompassing, that when we come up short, we start to ask ourselves “Am I an imposter?” “Should I really be a leader?” and perhaps/Am even a Christian at all?’

Gary Millar is the Principal of Queensland’s Theological College and author of a new book ‘Both/And Ministry.’

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The Church Co
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The Pastor's Heart with Dominic Steele - Gary Millar: Godliness vs Effectiveness - the Both/And Dilemma

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Godliness versus effectiveness , the both and ministry dilemma , how to live and lead like Jesus . Gary Miller is our guest today on the Pastor's Heart . Dominic Steele is my name . Godliness versus effectiveness , theology versus pragmatics , People-centered or organizationally minded , Leading from the front versus serving others , Courage to take a stand versus quick to submit . Others k

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