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The Office Chronicles

The Office Chronicles

Kursty Groves

THE OFFICE CHRONICLES is a podcast that charts the impact of the Coronavirus pandemic on workplaces. Author, professor and workplace consultant Kursty Groves goes behind the scenes to hear the stories and learning of influential organisations as they tackle the question: will the office ever be the same again?
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How Does Your Office Space Manifest Your Culture? With David McKay

How do spaces change the way we talk to each other? The way we feel about work? And the way we behave at work? David McKay from Innocent Drinks joins Kursty to discuss how their spaces manifest their company culture. They explore how spaces can bring people in, why they invested in a sustainable factory that’s filled with plants, how they experimented space configurations that work best for their teams, and why you’d want to be copyable.

David Mckay is the Head of Culture and Workspace at Innocent Drinks. Innocent Drinks is a B-Corp-certified company. They started the first carbon-neutral drinks factory.
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[00:29] Episode Overview: Who is David Mckay?

[03:59] How spaces express company culture

[09:56] What if any member of the public could visit your facilities?

[12:42] Why limiting choices at work is effective (and other lessons from Covid-19)

[20:53] Experimenting with different space configurations

[28:06] What’s the point of the office?

[35:06] The blender: the first carbon neutral drinks factory

3 Key Takeaways:

  • It’s human nature to want to slip back to what’s comfortable. Within this context, it can be helpful to take away choices from people or limit choices.
  • To make it evident that you are listening to your teams, you have to be flexible with making changes. This is especially the case when you’re experimenting with new things and introducing new ideas that are meant to be tested and evaluated together.
  • You do not necessarily need a prescribed purpose for what offices are for. It can be that you allow each team member to develop their own perspective and purpose for the role the office plays in their lives.

Links

Connect with David McKay: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-mckay-8579aa75

Innocent Drinks: https://www.innocentdrinks.co.uk/

B-Corp Certification: https://www.bcorporation.net/en-us/find-a-b-corp/company/innocent-drinks

Connect with Kursty Groves: LinkedIn | Twitter | Ask a question or pitch an idea: [email protected]
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Solving hybrid work challenges requires us to talk less about desks and more about how we work. Emma Morley and Kursty discuss what it’s like to solve hybrid work, all the things that get in the way, and how to be more intentional in solving for it. Different stakeholders around the office often have conflicting and ever-changing requirements for what the office should be like and what it should be for. Tune in for insights about how to decide what problems are worth figuring out and what problems are unnecessary distractions.
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[00:29] Episode Overview: Who is Emma Morley?

[03:15] Should you give your employees what they ask for?

[10:17] Is it possible to future-proof office spaces?

[13:02] Does balance really exist?

[16:34] Working in silos vs. working together to design office space

[23:28] Designing for Monday morning meetings vs. designing for energy

[27:40] What’s missing from online conferences?

[32:01] What remote work problems should we solve? (and which are not worth it)

3 Key Takeaways:

  • Sometimes, when companies attempt to have adult-adult relationships with their employees and try to be employee-centric, things start becoming rather individualistic. People start making demands that pertain to them without considering the larger group's needs.
  • There isn’t a perfect static balance. Balance is always moving and shifting. It is dynamic. If things feel balanced, you must also keep in mind that it might not stay that way long.
  • Conferences are re-energizing. They remind everyone of their purpose and renew their commitment to the company and its mission. But, it’s not the same in virtual conferences. It is hard to replicate the energetic experience of face-to-face conferences. It’s critical not to compromise such high-value face-to-face interactions.

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Connect with Emma Morley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-morley-b9664b21/

Trifle* Creative: https://www.triflecreative.com/

Connect with Kursty Groves: LinkedIn | Twitter | Ask a question or pitch an idea: [email protected]

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Sonya Simmonds joins Kursty to discuss how to meaningfully bring out your brand through workplace and office design. They explore how office design impacts employee morale, productivity, and work ethic, why the ‘wow factor’ of designing office spaces shouldn’t stop at gimmicks and fragmented Instagramable spots, and Spotify’s Work From Anywhere program that allows staff to choose between a ‘home mix’ and an ‘office mix’ work experience.

Sonya Simmonds is an interior architect with 20 years of experience and the Head of Workplace Innovation & Design at Spotify.

“It’s also really strange to me that people say 'I don’t care what it’s like. I really don’t care what the office is like or this building is like' and I’m thinking, well you’re going to spend a lot of time in it.”
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[00:25] Episode overview: designing spaces, designing for brand cultures, co-creation, working from anywhere, and more...
[01:46] Who is Sonya Simmonds?
[03:33] Visiting the Nike store in New York and Working at Bloomberg in London (experiential design).
[10:51] How big is Spotify? How many offices does Spotify have?
[12:24] How do you choose an office building and how do you use co-creation to localize it?
[15:55] Flexibility, wellbeing, and working from anywhere - how they affect workplace design
[22:24] Home mix vs. office mix: planning based on people’s preferences
[24:19] Storytelling and communicating design updates with the whole team (how and why to make people care about design decisions).
[29:38] How office design brings out the brand (and a deep dive into Spotify’s Heart and Soul room)
[40:09] Instagrammable office spaces and office spaces that employees actually love being in

4 Key Takeaways

  1. One way to localise an office building is to invite local artists and local staff to co-create the look and feel of it with you. You should also ask members of the local office what they want to define what they wanted to express with the office.
  2. Explaining your design choices to the wider body of employees can help the whole team understand why design decisions are made the way they’re made. For example, if you chose not to occupy a building in an area that displaces the local population - this strengthens your brand values and shows staff that you are serious about your convictions. It also helps the team become more proud of the offices they inhabit.
  3. The migration back to the office is intimidating and stressful. Your workplace design can help people ease that stress.
  4. Bringing your brand out in the design of your workplace isn't about purely aesthetic elements or fun gimmicks, the brand has to be deeply embedded in the functionality of the space as well.

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Connect with Sonya Simmonds: LinkedIn

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Trend forecaster Li Edelkoort joins Kursty to discuss the anatomy of trends, the ecology of fashion, and the post-pandemic workplace. Reflecting on the state of the world, Li discusses how to redesign the modern workplace to respond to new and upcoming trends. She explores how the pandemic has made us more in tune with nature and the good things that have come of it. Throughout the discussion, Li shares nuggets of wisdom, showing us how trends that haven’t yet reached the main stage are currently being formed.

Li Edelkoort is a globally renowned trend forecaster and activist for fair, sustainable, and thoughtful fashion. She is the author of the Anti-Fashion Manifesto and a co-author of A Labour of Love. Recently, she founded the World Hope Forum.
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[00:49] Who is Li Edelkoort?
[01:43] The Workplace Geeks Podcast
[02:28] More about Li’s impact on eco and fashion issues.
[04:22] Where do your clothes come from?
[07:40] The energy of immobile items and all the ideas that have shaped Li’s career.
[12:05] Getting clients that align with your values.
[14:28] Fashion has become old-fashioned - what does that mean?
[20:01] The disappearing joy of finding a new fashion piece.
[22:39] Would slavery have existed if cotton and sugar didn’t exist?
[25:57] How to predict trends before they happen.
[30:52] How the pandemic pushed us to live in a more seasonal way (winter hibernation).
[34:05] How organizations can adapt to post-pandemic realities.
[37:50] Why it’s profitable to be in smaller cities.
[39:39] A simpler way to think about money and managing resources.

4 Key Takeaways

  1. We are rooted in the earth. Our clothes are made from plants that grow in the ground. Fashion grows from the earth. We must ignite our consciousness of the connection between fashion and the environment.
  2. Society has been overloaded with shopping. There is too much choice, and that choice is overwhelming. The joy of finding a new fashion piece and celebrating when you purchase it and then go home with it is no longer as prevalent as it used to be. As mass production increases, editing and curating will become more important parts of fashion.
  3. The 'Great Resignation' movement amplified what was already in the air. This new trend may indicate that urban environments will become less populous as people move into rural areas. This may lead to the urbanisation of rural areas.
  4. The pandemic has forced us to live more in tune with the seasons. Winter is for introspection, solitude, and hibernation. Summer and spring are for blooming into the world, exploration, and togetherness.

Links

Listen to Workplace Geeks: Podcast Web Page | Kursty’s Episode on Workplace Geeks

Books by William Morris: Amazon | Thrift Books

World Hope Forum: Website

Connect with Li Edelkoort: Website |
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The Office Chronicles - Kursty featured on Workplace Geeks podcast
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04/13/22 • 51 min

Interview with Ian Ellison and Chris Moriarty, two brilliant workplace thinkers 'on a mission to find and celebrate the most exciting and inspiring workplace research in the world'.
A fascinating geek-out into Kursty's second book, Spaces for Innovation, which dives into the science and design of inspiring environments that support creativity and collaboration.
Some of the topics covered include:
📖 How the book itself is designed with the user in mind
💡 The core themes for defining spaces that support creativity and innovation
📏 Metrics, how they need to accommodate new ways of working and the spaces that support
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The Office Chronicles - Kursty featured on The Workplace Leader podcast
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02/16/22 • 40 min

Interview with Sabine Ehm of Locatee, and host of The Workplace Leader.
We dig into what makes inspiring work environments and touch upon some of the misconceptions around creativity and collaboration:
❗Collaboration does not equal everybody together all the time.
❗Creativity does not equal bright colours and post its everywhere.
A thing will not make you or your people creative. So, for instance you cannot install a foosball table and then expect creativity to happen.
It is much more important to understand the fundamental human elements that support creativity like
☀️ natural light,
🌳 exposure to nature and
🏃 movement.

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Timothy Ahrensbach and Anne Sofie Fedders from LEGO join Kursty to share insights from the hybrid work model they are currently implementing. Since the pandemic, the future of work has been one big experiment. Our perspective about work from home and hybrid work life has changed month by month since the beginning of COVID-19 lockdowns.

Tune in to hear Tim and Anne Sofie’s insights into how they created principles and guidelines to facilitate an effective and happy hybrid working environment. They discuss, among other things, what it’s like to build community and run meetings in a hybrid working world.

Timothy Ahrensbach is the Head of Workplace Experience at LEGO and Anne Sofie Fedders is the Head of LEGO Ways of Working.

“We’re still trying to figure out what the future of work is while we’re implementing it.” - Tim Ahrensbach
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Timestamps

[00:49] Episode overview: The best of both (LEGO)

[02:18] What’s been going on at LEGO Workplace Experience the past 9 months?

[03:35] What hybrid working at LEGO is like.

[07:11] Why is their hybrid working initiative called The Best of Both?

[07:55] Crafting and coordinating the LEGO hybrid working plan.

[12:23] Two-pronged approach to building a trust-based system.

[15:55] The main question to consider when rolling out a hybrid work programme.

[21:23] The practical side of rolling out a hybrid work programme (behaviour and mindset)

[23:32] How is the workspace changing to accommodate hybrid work?

[25:21] The necessary feedback loop between workspaces, individuals, and teams..

[28:00] The beauty of the LEGO Leadership Playground model.

[29:35] Co-creating unique shared experiences in the office to grow a strong culture.

[36:45] How do the different parts of the hybrid experience work together?

5 Key Highlights

  1. The LEGO hybrid work plan was tested with several stakeholders before it was presented to the executives. The plan had to comply with local legal requirements.
  2. People are now much more aware of what they want to get out of the office and more particular about their experience of it.
  3. Coming into the office is not merely a personal affair but a collective one. Structures and systems are needed to ensure a certain amount of time spent in the office, for the well-being and harmony of the whole team.
  4. Workplace culture should be co-created with staff, not imposed. It's influenced by the relationships formed between people; strengthening culture is about strengthening relationships.
  5. A principle that can streamline hybrid work is that if one is online, then everyone is online. This can eliminate the awkwardness of having part of the meeting cohort online and the other part offline.

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Connect with Tim Ahrensbach: LinkedIn | Twitter

Connect with Anne Sofie Fedders: LinkedIn

Connect with Kursty Groves: LinkedIn | Twitter
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After almost two years of working from home, companies are unsure about what to do with their office space—but Airbus has a plan. Rob Fretwell, Head of Space Management UK for Airbus, joins Kursty to discuss the Airbus Workplace of the Future initiative and tell all about what they are doing to transform the office space by incorporating agile and tailored ways of working.

The workplace tries to be one-size-fits-all, but Airbus knows this will no longer fly. The pandemic has made that all too clear.

“If we try to go back to how we were, then we’ve not learnt from the lesson...we shouldn’t forget this knowledge, we shouldn’t forget what it (the pandemic) taught us.” - Rob Fretwell, Airbus
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Timestamps

[00:16] Episode overview: Workplace of The Future Initiative

[01:15] Who is Rob Fretwell (and his role at Airbus)?

[06:16] How did Airbus manage operations and protect staff in the pandemic?

[11:31] How long did it take for Airbus to adapt to the pandemic?

[13:32] Dealing with technical difficulties while working from home for Airbus.

[16:36] What is the Workplace of the Future and how does Airbus create customized work environments?

[23:42] One amazing thing Rob Fretwell looks forward to going forward.

[26:15] How Airbus figured out how to transform their office space.

[28:35] Should companies go back to how they used to operate pre-pandemic?

4 Key Highlights

  1. The pandemic has helped companies introduce technological innovations much quicker than possible. It goes to show that many challenges we consider technological are just behavioural challenges. A mindset shift can be all it takes.
  2. The Workplace of the Future initiative aimed to create a new way of working for Airbus employees that allows them to work how, when, and where they want to maximize their productivity. It is based on three main pillars: people, behaviour, and policies; the office environment; and technology.
  3. Gen Z and Millennials are entering the workforce after graduating from very flexible, open, and collaborative university environments. The workplace (as it stands) doesn't match this energy; it stifles creativity and doesn't inspire young people.
  4. Returning to how things were before Covid-19 completely misses the point of our experience in the pandemic. We must value the ride we have been on since March 2020 by learning the lessons it taught us and staying agile.

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Connect with Rob Fretwell: LinkedIn | Twitter

Connect with Kursty Groves: LinkedIn | Twitter
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Head of Workplace Experience at LEGO Tim Ahrensbach joins Kursty to discuss how play can revolutionise the workplace. It is his job to make sure LEGO’s offices are as fun and as awesome as their LEGO sets and throughout the episode, he talks about how he does that.

Tune in to learn:

  • The six layers of workplace experience;
  • What it means to play at work;
  • Why being a fully remote workplace might stifle creativity.

“The aha moment for us was realising what our colleagues were missing was play” - Tim Ahrensbach
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Timestamps

[00:23] Episode overview and who is Timothy Ahrensbach?

[02:16] What was happening at LEGO before the pandemic?

[04:05] Adding a little bit of play to the interview! (walking the walk)

[07:29] How play helped keep people connected during the pandemic (does it matter if it’s forced?)

[08:16] What does unconventional productivity look like (much more than getting through a to-do list)?

[10:56] Why and how people have struggled to do strategic creative thinking remotely.

[14:45] How LEGO was prepared for the pandemic.

[16:46] The big aha moment for LEGO in the pandemic.

[24:54] The SIX layers of workplace experience.

[30:06] How play revolutionized the LEGO workplace in the pandemic (what is play in the workplace?)

[33:04] Examples of what play can look like in the workplace.

4 Key Highlights

  1. Activity-based working gives people a lot of variety in their work. However, activity based working is not very community centred.
  2. Our conventional measures of productivity can be completely misleading (eg: how many emails you send per day). For example, investing time in building relationships is not a conventional measure of productivity. That being said, it is through building relationships that you can get work done more quickly and in a fun way. Creative outcomes don’t just come from sitting at your desk for hours. They also come from having coffee with a colleague.
  3. Working remotely is much easier when you already have a strategic creative plan that you are following. It is much more challenging when you don’t have a plan and need to create one remotely. Collaborating creatively is easier face to face. One of the reasons for this is that it is much easier to pick up on body language face to face.
  4. The pandemic compelled people not only to be their best working selves but also their best working colleagues. The future of work post-pandemic needs to work for people personally but also for companies as a collective. This is why work cannot be fully remote nor fully in person.

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Connect with Tim Ahrensbach: LinkedIn | Twitter

Connect with Kursty Groves: LinkedIn | Twitter

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What if you could have a ‘destination office’ rather than a bland office that people dread coming into?
How do you create spaces at work that energize people?
How do you make people look forward to their days in the office?

It’s not just hitting KPIs that creates value at work. Connection, community, and collaboration create immeasurable value. Tom Kegode and Kursty discuss how to use office spaces to grow social capital and why social capital is a necessary form of productivity.
Tom Kegode is the Work:Lab Lead at Lloyd’s Banking Group where he is creating new imaginations and realities of work. He’s had a 13-year career at Lloyd’s so far.
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What we discussed:
(00:22) How did work at Lloyd Bank change over the years?

(09:09) Collaboration spaces are NOT enough

(15:10) What’s hard to replicate virtually?

(17:29) Transactional work vs. joyful work

(23:11) Having a floor dedicated to testing workspace configurations

(30:33) Building critical mass for rich work experiences

(33:32) The new way to feel belonging at work

(41:11) Getting in touch with Tom Kegode

4 things to remember:

  1. Collaboration is the byproduct of connection and community. Collaboration can happen anywhere as long as you have community and connection.
  2. Productivity isn’t just progressing on your KPI, forming social connections and increasing your social capital are their own forms of productivity.
  3. When work gets reduced to a transactional task, rather than a joyful and energetic experience it becomes easy to quit.
  4. It’s really important for everyone to feel like they’re part of something when they enter their office building. There has to be something meaningful and fulfilling they’re getting by being present there at the office.

Links

Connect with Tom Kegode: LinkedIn

Connect with Kursty Groves: LinkedIn | Twitter | Ask a question or pitch an idea: [email protected]

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How many episodes does The Office Chronicles have?

The Office Chronicles currently has 32 episodes available.

What topics does The Office Chronicles cover?

The podcast is about Culture, Future Of Work, Work, Office, Podcasts and Business.

What is the most popular episode on The Office Chronicles?

The episode title 'How to create a ‘destination office’? with Tom Kegode, Lloyds Banking Group' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on The Office Chronicles?

The average episode length on The Office Chronicles is 39 minutes.

How often are episodes of The Office Chronicles released?

Episodes of The Office Chronicles are typically released every 14 days, 1 hour.

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The first episode of The Office Chronicles was released on Dec 31, 2020.

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