Practicing Standardized Flexibility with featured guest Cliff Johnson

Co-Hosts Mateo Bradford and John Stokinger get real with Cliff Johnson VP of New Homes at Reatlor.com.

Most of you know Cliff's story... Vacasa Co-Founder to Rented Chief Commercial Officer to now the VP of New Homes at Realtor.com.

Although Cliff has left the vacation rental space in which he has solidified himself as a first-ballot shoo-in in the Short-term Rental Hall of Fame, he wants you to know that he is not dead and no need to send flowers.

We talk about his current role, future ambitions, regrets, humble beginnings, and his feelings on the news that Vacasa will be publically listed with a 4.5 Billion dollar evaluation.

An amazing conversation with one of the brightest and most thoughtful minds in our industry.

The No BS Short Term Rental Podcast brings the right people to the table at the right time giving their audience an inside view and real take on the industry like no other.

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