The Mushroom Show

If you wanted to do clinical trials for psilocybin, you generally have two options: synthetic psilocybin (which has it's downsides) or whole dried mushrooms (also, has downsides). But what if there was a third option that took the best attributes of both? In this episode of The Mushroom Show, we are touring a facility in Vancouver that is developing a standardized version of psilocybin from whole mushrooms which contains all of the secondary metabolites. Is this the future of psilocybin therapy?
We're also digging into a weird viral video that shows a "moving mushroom" and going down the rabbit hole of the best posts on r/mycology.
Enjoy!
0:00 Intro
1:29 A New Frontier In Psilocybin?
13:19 Get Mushroom Powered
14:05 Best of Reddit Mycology
26:26 Outro

This week's guest on the Mushroom Show is Jeff Chilton, who is a veteran of the mushroom industry. He has been enamored by mushrooms since the psychedelic era of the 60's, and has since become a leading expert in medicinal mushrooms, grown culinary mushrooms on massive commercial scales and he has a deep understanding of psychoactive mushrooms. After 10 years of commercial growing experience, he co-authored the best-selling Mushroom Grower's Guide with Paul Stamets in 1983. Jeff has an absolute wealth of mushroom knowledge and experience and in this interview we covered his experience travelling in search of mushroom knowledge from Mexico to China, the policies of psilocybin in the future, the differences between mycelium on grain and mushroom fruiting body, and so much more!
Thank you for watching, let us know in the comments what you liked about this interview and let us know who you want to see on the Mushroom Show in future episodes.
0:00 Updates to the Mushroom Show
0:30 Framing the Conversation with Jeff
5:10 (Conversation Start) Jeff Chilton's Mushroom History
8:20 Entering the Commercial Mushroom Industry
10:55 Psilocybe Mushrooms in the Pacific Northwest
13:56 Pre-Internet Mushroom Knowledge
17:30 Writing The Mushroom Cultivator with Paul Stamets
21:10 Flocking to Oaxaca in the 60's
24:30 The Changing Narrative on Psychoactive Substances
31:45 What About Microdosing?
34:45 Restrictions of Era and Country
42:05 Jeff's Take on Fantastic Fungi
47:54 The Nammex Story
51:30 Grow Where it Makes Sense
53:51 Mycelium on Grain Explained
59:55 The Beneficial Compounds in Mushrooms and How We Test for Them
1:10:56 What is the Future of Medicinal Mushrooms?
1:22:04 Closing Remarks About the Mushroom World
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The world is slowly realizing that everyone has the power to take their health back into their own hands. This is the vision that the founders of Umbo Mushrooms have, and on today’s episode of the Mushroom Show, we dive deep into how and why mushrooms of all kinds are the way of the future. We chat with Rashad and Del about the problems with psilocybin legalization, their respective journeys into the mushroom space, mushrooms for athletic recovery and performance, mycophobia, and so much more. This was a super interesting conversation and we’re grateful to be running alongside such high-integrity players in the mushroom space!
Tell us what you loved and what we missed in the comments below. Thanks for listening.
0:00 - Framing the Conversation
1:38 - Rashad's Journey Into Mushrooms (Brain Injuries, Life After a Fighting Career, Psychological Wellbeing)
6:43 - Tony's Experience with Lions Mane
8:01 - Del's Journey Into Mushrooms (Advocating for Plant Medicine, Law Reformation, Informing Top-Tier Researchers about Psilocybin)
13:26 - Are Many Athletes Using Psilocybin?
16:47 - Psilocybin Testing in Athletes (Getting Back What You Already Have)
19:40 - Issues with the Road to Psilocybin Legalization (The Opportunity to do Psychedelics Right)
29:10 - Mushrooms for Body, Mind, and Environment (Taking Health Back into Your Own Hands)
37:05 - Eradicating Mycophobia (UMBO's Vision)
44:23 - Final Remarks on the Mushroom Space
Bios:
Rashad Evans
UFC Champion. A former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion, Rashad knows a thing or two about the connection between mind and body, and the importance of having both in sync. He credits mushrooms for that one-two punch of focus + energy in training and competition, and then easing the transition from fighter to “just getting back to being me.” Rashad is passionate about transforming sports nutrition and transforming access to education so that others can have the same opportunities that he did.
Del Jolly
Advocate & Educator. Focused on shifting the cultural narrative, Del worked as part of Decriminalize Denver and Charlotte’s Web CBD before co-founding Unlimited Sciences, a psychedelic research nonprofit partnered with the likes of Johns Hopkins University. He believes functional mushrooms have just as much, if not more, potential than psychedelics and is committed to exploring and unearthing everything we can.
Find out more about Rashad and Del using the links below:
UMBO Mushrooms: https://getumbo.com/
Unlimited Sciences: https://unlimitedsciences.org/
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Alan Rockefeller is a renowned citizen mycologist, and has contributed an enormous amount of information and insight into the world of mushrooms. In this interview, we cover everything from Alan's discoveries in Mexico to the future of psilocybin to the importance of reconnecting with nature.
0:00 Framing the Conversation
2:12 Alan's Laboratory
3:30 The Drive to Study Mycology
4:44 Mexican Mushrooms
8:10 Citizen Science & Mycological Exploration
10:22 DNA Barcoding & Sequencing
18:58 Mushroom Type Distribution
20:00 Why Plants are Deadlier Than Mushrooms
22:20 Tips for Identifying Mushrooms
28:25 Tips for Photographing Mushrooms
30:05 Psilocybin Research
38:15 Amanita vs Psilocybe
40:35 The Future of Psilocybin
43:24 Mushrooms for Connection
47:20 Mushrooms Growing Near Humans
48:40 Exciting Things in the Mushroom Space
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https://mushroomobserver.org/
https://mimosatherapeutics.com/

Mushrooms are taking over the world! Not literally of course, but with their rising popularity in cooking, functional nutrition, technology and culture, you may think that they can do no wrong these days. Which is why it seems
crazy to see a group of restaurants actually banishing them from the menu!
In this episode of The Mushroom Show, we take a look at the reason why a popular way to grow certain mushrooms leaves some to think that mushrooms are "bad for the planet" and what that might mean for mushroom cultivation in the future.
We are also digging into the debate between whole mushroom extract and synthetic psilocybin in the context of psilocybin therapy and clinical research- with a new study suggesting one might have more impact than the other.
Enjoy the show!