
The Making Of
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The Making Of features the origin stories of the most successful creators and entrepreneurs —breaking down the mindsets, decisions, and strategies that have made them who they are today. This show is produced and presented by Circle.
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11/13/24 • 60 min
In this episode, Bonnie Christine—self-taught artist, entrepreneur, and educator in surface pattern design—shares her journey from aspiring artist to successful fabric designer and mentor, building a seven-figure business and generating over $25 million in revenue in just seven years.
Bonnie discusses how her childhood influences, self-trust, and passion for teaching shaped her path. We dive into her strategies for managing overwhelm, embracing creative cycles, and insights into art licensing and sustainable business. Packed with actionable advice, this episode is a must-listen for artists, entrepreneurs, and educators looking to make a meaningful impact through creativity and knowledge-sharing.
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:12 Meet Bonnie Christine: Artist and Entrepreneur
03:13 Mindset Shifts for Scaling Success
06:55 Trusting Your Business and Team
09:49 The Influence of Childhood on Entrepreneurship
12:47 Overcoming Overwhelm and Taking Action
20:22 The Licensing Journey
26:27 Becoming an Educator
31:29 Signature Course Launch & Revenue Breakdown
37:38 Building a Supportive Community
Connect with Bonnie here!
This episode also features a member of Bonnie's community, Melissa Johnson. You can connect with her here.
This show is produced and presented by Circle, where creators turn pro.

The Making Of: Glo Atanmo
The Making Of
08/07/24 • 79 min
Glo Atanmo is a creative entrepreneur, digital marketer, and Founder of The Life Leap, a program that guides people in making big life transitions.
After venturing to almost 100 countries across 6 continents, her digital storytelling has landed her in Oprah Magazine and Forbes, while she’s partnered with brands like Google, Facebook, Instagram, Target, Delta Air Lines, GoPro, Adobe, and more, on marketing campaigns that went on to reach tens of millions of people through viral content.
In this conversation, we get real. Glo shares her childhood experiences of feeling misunderstood and isolated, which led her to turn to the internet as a way to connect with others. She discusses the pros and cons of her lifestyle as a travel blogger, including the lack of sleep and the strain on her health.
She also talks about the importance of using her voice and sharing her authentic experiences, even when it may be controversial and leads to threats to her personal safety.
Topics include:
- How being authentic and using your voice can lead to new opportunities and connections
- The importance of protecting your mental health as a content creator and entrepreneur
- How Glo diversifies her revenue streams to build a sustainable career and reduce reliance on a single source of income
- Owning who you are and living in alignment with your values
Episode Chapters:
00:00 Childhood Experiences and Turning to the Internet
02:42 Studying Abroad and Working at Harlaxton College
07:59 Embracing Experimentation and Trying New Things
25:54 Using Your Voice and Dealing with the Emotional Weight of it
32:01 Pros and Cons of the Travel Blogger Lifestyle
37:53 Protecting Your Mental Health and Finding Peace
47:00 The Process of Creating Content
52:08 Diversifying Revenue Streams
01:08:33 The Value of Mentors and Coaches
01:13:12 Building a Community of Growth and Vulnerability
You can connect with Glo here (https://www.thelifeleap.com/) and her IG here (https://www.instagram.com/glographics/)
This episode also featured Amy Palmer, podcast host of Blueprint Breakers and digital creator for midlife women who are living a non-traditional life. You can connect with her here: https://linktr.ee/amypalmer.today
This show is produced and presented by Circle, where creators turn pro.

The Making Of: Stephanie Cartin
The Making Of
09/04/24 • 72 min
Stephanie Cartin is the CEO of Entreprenista, 4 time co-founder, and angel investor for over 10 companies.
In this episode, Stephanie shares her early career in corporate hospitality and what inspired her to co-found her first business Socialfly, a socail media agency based in NYC. Socialfly went on to be named the fastest growing private companies for two years in a row by Inc. 5000.
Stephanie has a deep desire to help women founders get the support they need, which led to co-founding her second company, Entreprenista, home to Entrepreneista League, a membership community to support women founders at all stages of their business with over 2,000 members.
She’s a master networker, she’s resilient, and is one of those people who will do whatever it takes to build something meaningful.
Topics include:
- Becoming a co-founder and the responsibilities/expectations associated with co-founding a company
- In-the-weeds insights behind launching and scaling a community based business
- How to get started as an angel investor
- Why building a profitable, sellable business is important, even if you don't plan to sell it
Episode Chapters:
00:00 The Importance of Community in Business
01:05 Stephanie Carton's Childhood and Early Entrepreneurial Spirit
06:50 From Childhood Ventures to Corporate Career
10:34 The Birth of Socialfly
16:06 Transitioning from Employee to Founder
22:28 Building Entreprenista During the Pandemic
28:32 Learning and Growing as an Entrepreneur
31:13 Selling Socialfly: A New Chapter
35:04 Emotional Decision-Making in Business
39:43 Angel Investing Insights
44:39 Growth Strategies for Entrepreneista
53:12 Time Management and Self-Care
01:02:11 Interview with Jess Milanes
You can connect with Stephanie personally here and learn more about Entreprenista League here.
This episode also features a special story from a member of Entreprenista League, Jess Milanes. Jess is the founder of Smart Podcast Solutions, a podcast agency helping mission-driven entrepreneurs grow their visibility and attract the right people. She’ll share how Stephanie and her community have deeply impacted her business.
This show is produced and presented by Circle, where creators turn pro.

The Making Of: Pat Flynn
The Making Of
06/25/24 • 83 min
Back in 2008, Pat Flynn lost his dream job as an architect. Little did he know, it would lead him on an incredible journey into entrepreneurship. Today, he's not just a successful online business owner, best-selling author, and podcast host with over 80 million downloads—he’s also a dedicated family man who values impact over material success.
In this episode, Pat unpacks how his ethos of empathy and serving first shaped his business and parenting style. From battling bullies in his teens to finding himself in a college marching band, he shares how these experiences shaped his leadership skills and commitment to authenticity.
We also explore:
- Staying grounded amidst success, steering clear of ego and validation traps
- Lessons learned from writing his books 'Let Go,' 'Will It Fly?,' and 'Superfans'
- Managing his passion project, Deep Pocket Monster, alongside other ventures
- Unlocking YouTube success during the pandemic through storytelling and community
- The profound impact of community and the joy of embracing play in daily life
This conversation isn't just about business—it's about empathy, community, and finding joy in what you do.
Episode Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Pokemon Event Planning
03:42 Setting the Tone with Empathy
13:08 Raising Children with Empathy
16:37 Reflecting on Teenage Years and Bullying
23:20 Lessons in Leadership and Empathy
25:38 Rumble Strips: Creating Personal Checkpoints
29:18 Finding Fulfillment and Gratitude in 'Making It'
35:17 The Journey of Writing Books: Challenges and Lessons
47:04 Balancing Passion Projects with Other Business Ventures
53:53 YouTube Success
55:40 Profitability and Personal Experiences
59:01 Building a Story Bank
01:03:00 The Impact of Community
01:05:22 Rediscovering Play
01:09:26 Michal Szafranski's Story
This show is produced and presented by Circle, where creators turn pro.

12/11/24 • 70 min
Jasmine Star, a trailblazing entrepreneur with over 580K Instagram followers and host of The Jasmine Star Show, shares her inspiring journey from a beginner photographer to a seven-figure entrepreneur and tech founder. As the CEO of Social Curator, Jasmine is revolutionizing small business marketing with AI-powered tools.
In this episode, she discusses the power of ambition, lessons from her childhood, and the mindset shifts that helped her build a thriving career. Jasmine also shares insights on building a personal brand, the importance of consistency, and the future of influencer marketing.
Episode chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:46 Introducing Jasmine Starr: A Trailblazing Entrepreneur
01:38 Jasmine's Journey: From Photographer to Business Strategist
02:50 Early Entrepreneurial Lessons and Blogging Success
05:14 The Birth of a New Revenue Stream: Selling PDFs
08:48 Childhood Influences: Generosity and Hard Work
12:49 Ambition and the Path to Financial Security
17:41 Transitioning from Photography to Online Business
21:43 The Emotional Process of Letting Go and Moving Forward
26:13 Becoming a Tech Founder: Challenges and Growth
30:06 Future Vision for Social Curator
33:40 Developing a Unique Social Media Voice
35:06 Consistency: The Key to Finding Your Voice
35:42 The Instagram Growth Dilemma
37:17 Authenticity vs. Persona in Social Media
39:41 Navigating Criticism and Building a Personal Brand
45:30 Leveraging Social Media Trends
50:37 The Rise of Micro-Influencers
55:34 Jasmine's Personal Dream and Work Philosophy
58:49 Interview with Angie McPherson: A Success Story
To follow Jasmine’s journey, click here.
This episode also features Angie McPherson, a student and mentee of Jasmine’s whose business has transformed because of the lesson’s she’s implemented from Jasmine’s mastermind. Connect with Angie on Instagram here.
This show is produced and presented by Circle, where creators turn pro.

The Making Of: Amy Porterfield
The Making Of
08/21/24 • 84 min
Amy Porterfield is an former corporate marketing expert turned entrepreneur and CEO of a $100 million business.
Through her best-selling courses and top-ranked marketing podcast Online Marketing Made Easy, Amy has helped hundreds of thousands of entrepreneurs turn in their two weeks’ notice and trade burnout for freedom, income, and impact.
In this conversation, we dive into Amy’s early years as an entrepreneur. From failed course launches to her decision to take on a business partner and the eventual dissolution of that partnership. She discusses the challenges she faced, the lessons she learned, and the importance of finding your why and staying true to yourself.
Through it all, Amy's tenacity, determination, and authenticity shine through, leading to her continued success.
Topics include:
- Why humility and the willingness to learn from mistakes are essential traits for success as an entrepreneur
- How having a clear why and staying true to yourself can help you make decisions that align with your goals and values
- The behind the scenes of Amy’s different revenue streams, including her evergreen program, live launch program, membership, and affiliate deals
Episode Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
04:13 Amy's Origin Story: From Childhood to Entrepreneurship
28:04 Taking on a Business Partner
32:02 The Dissolution of the Partnership and Finding Confidence
33:52 Navigating Grief and Building a Supportive Community
37:20 Diversifying Revenue Streams: Evergreen Programs, Live Launches, and Memberships
44:09 Strategies for Helping Students Take Action in Online Courses
51:32 The Power of Consistency in Podcasting
57:39 Balancing Privacy and Authenticity in Personal Branding
You can connect with Amy here (https://www.amyporterfield.com/) and her IG here (https://www.instagram.com/amyporterfield)
Want to launch your own course? Check out Amy’s: Surprisingly Simple Ways To Turn Your Knowledge Into A Digital Course.
This episode also features two incredible entrepreneurs, Lisa Ramos and Nika Maples.
Lisa Ramos, the founder of Global Energy Method, she teaches energy healers how to build thriving 6-figure global businesses while gaining the skills, support, and qualifications to lead industry growth. You can connect with Lisa here: https://www.globalenergymethod.com
And Nika Maples, a writer who helps Christian coaches, speakers, and influencers write their books. You can connect with Nika here: https://nikamaples.com/
This show is produced and presented by Circle, where creators turn pro.

The Making Of: Justin Moore
The Making Of
07/10/24 • 80 min
Back in 2014, Justin Moore made the leap to become a full-time creator. Since then, Justin has evolved into a leading Sponsorship Coach and founder of Creator Wizard, a community that helps creators negotiate dream brand partnerships, ensuring they don't leave thousands on the table.
With over $4M earned working with brands and having run an influencer marketing agency for over seven years, Justin has not only built a successful career but helps other creators earn millions more.
In this episode, Justin unpacks his transition from medical device product management to entrepreneurship, the difficult decision to close a successful agency while being over $100k in debt, and the origin of his company, Creator Wizard. He delves into how personal branding influences business decisions and why creators must take ownership of their businesses.
We also explore:
- The creation of Creator Wizard and the intricacies of brand partnerships and sponsorships
- The importance of audience alignment and the shift from being an influencer to an educator
- The impact of sponsorship deals and the need for creators to take ownership of their business
- Emphasizing the journey over hitting milestones and the importance of serving others
On a deeper level, we uncover the tough decisions Justin has made to reach his current success. Not all paths to entrepreneurship are linear.
Episode Chapters
00:00 The Origin Story: Transition from Medical Device Product Management to Entrepreneurship
20:00 The Impact of Personal Branding: Lessons from Rebranding and Mistakes Made
38:28 The Dynamics of Brand Partnerships and Sponsorships: Navigating Audience Alignment and Strategy
40:23 Navigating Creator Sponsorships: Challenges and Opportunities
45:06 From Influencer to Educator: The Shift in Creator Strategy
55:22 The Impact of Sponsorship Deals: Taking Ownership of Your Business
01:13:15 Serving Others: The Journey Over Milestones
Connect with Justin here: https://www.creatorwizard.com/
This show also features a special guest, Paul Jamison, host of the Green Industry Podcast. You can connect with him here: https://www.thepauljamison.com/
This show is produced and presented by Circle, where creators turn pro.

The Making Of: Jo Franco
The Making Of
09/18/24 • 79 min
Jo is a multilingual content creator, entrepreneur, and TV host who’s spent a decade building a global community through powerful storytelling.
With 600+ videos and 1.3M+ YouTube subscribers, she speaks to the multicultural, multi-hyphenate generation. As CEO of JoClub, a journaling community, and host of Netflix’s World’s Most Amazing Vacation Rentals, Jo empowers others through curiosity, connection, and growth.
In this episode, Jo opens up about how childhood experiences shaped her empathy, navigating business challenges, and the importance of aligning your career with your values. Tune in for insights on scaling a business, creating spaces for vulnerability, and trusting your instincts.
Topics include:
- The impact of childhood experiences have on empathy and emotional intelligence
- Navigating the emotional challenges of parting ways with a business partner
- Insights on scaling a business and creating spaces for vulnerability and connection
- The importance of embracing fear, trusting your instincts, and personal growth through taking risks
Episode Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Childhood
07:16 Curiosity and Connection
17:35 Inception of the Damon and Jo Youtube Channel
27:01 Growth of Shut Up and Go
30:52 Dissolving a business and Mental Health
35:54 Transitioning to a New Career
37:43 Creating a Safe Space for Vulnerability
45:30 Scaling a Business and Delegating
52:24 The Power of In-Person Retreats
58:58 Trusting Your Instincts for Growth
01:03:11 Interview with Aurora Lucas
You can connect with Jo personally here (https://www.instagram.com/jo_franco/) and learn more about JoClub here (https://joclub.world/).
This episode also features a special story from a member of JoClub, Aurora Lucas. Aurora is an educator and advocate for marginalized communities, with a passion for healthcare equity shaped by her own journey as a lung cancer survivor. You can connect with Aurora here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/auroralucas/
This show is produced and presented by Circle, where creators turn pro.

The Making Of: Jay Clouse
The Making Of
10/02/24 • 84 min
Jay Clouse is the founder of Creator Science, a media company centered on helping professional creators grow their businesses. With a combined audience of 200,000+, Jay is a powerful voice and thought leader in the creator economy.
From his early love of video games to his time as a reporter shaping his storytelling skills, Jay shares how these experiences paved the way for his entrepreneurial ventures, the strategies he used to scale his business, and how to provide real value to your audience. He also opens up about balancing business and personal life, navigating the competitive world of content creation, and how fatherhood has reshaped his approach to time and priorities.
If you’re ready to grow your creative business while staying focused on what matters most, this conversation is for you!
Episode Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Young Jay
02:42 Influence of Video Games and Teaching
07:51 Lessons from Jay's Experience as a Reporter
13:23 Transitioning to Entrepreneurship
19:30 Building Unreal Collective and Joining SPI Pro
27:43 Navigating the Challenges of Leadership
36:26 Hiring and Balancing Business and Personal Life
38:21 Growing a Newsletter: Providing Value and Refining Content
43:56 Membership Communities: Recurring Value and Direct Communication
57:21 Content Creation as a Competitive Sport: Focus on Engagement and Uniqueness
01:02:15 The Role of AI in Content Creation
01:06:26 Efficiency and Removing Single Points of Failure for Business Success
01:11:26 Interview with Aurora Lucas
You can connect with Jay here (https://creatorscience.com/) and learn more about The Lab here (https://join.creatorscience.com/).
This episode also features a special story from a member of The Lab, Becky Pierson Davidson. Becky is a community driven product strategist helping brands and businesses leverage community to grow their impact. You can connect with Becky here: https://www.beckypierson.com/
This show is produced and presented by Circle, where creators turn pro.

The Making Of: Anne-Laure Le Cunff
The Making Of
06/25/24 • 60 min
Anne-Laure has always been been fascinated by human consciousness and the biology of the mind. A cognitive neuroscientist in training, she has a weekly newsletter on creativity, learning, and mindful productivity that reaches over 100,000 readers. She’s also the founder of Ness Labs, a learning community that helps people achieve more without sacrificing their mental health.
In this episode, Anne-Laure shares her journey from a bookworm teenager to community manager, Google employee, the creator of several failed start ups, and finally, the founder of Ness Labs. She always comes back to the importance of following your own path, and not getting caught up in external definitions of success.
We also dive into:
- Experimenting and learning without the pressure of a set destination
- The importance of understanding what truly fulfills you
- Lessons learned from launching and growing Ness Labs
- Building a successful newsletter through consistency and value
- Embracing curiosity to better understand yourself and serve your audience
Episode Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:00 Early Interests and Community Building
04:18 Internships at Google and Decision to Leave
09:01 Transition to Starting Own Ventures
15:24 The Importance of Freedom and Self-Reflection
26:49 Creating a Learning Community for Growth and Mental Health
28:06 Creating a Community Rooted in Connection and Learning
30:29 Finding Meaning and Financial Independence through Nest Labs
34:48 Balancing Community Management and Self-Care
38:39 Handling Negative Feedback with Grace and Action
43:54 Growing a Newsletter through Consistency and Value
52:34 The Power of Curiosity for Creators
This show is produced and presented by Circle, where creators turn pro.
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FAQ
How many episodes does The Making Of have?
The Making Of currently has 14 episodes available.
What topics does The Making Of cover?
The podcast is about Business Mindset, Marketing, Entrepreneurship, Online Business, Community, Personal Development, Podcasts, Self-Improvement, Education and Business.
What is the most popular episode on The Making Of?
The episode title 'The Making Of: Amy Porterfield' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on The Making Of?
The average episode length on The Making Of is 75 minutes.
How often are episodes of The Making Of released?
Episodes of The Making Of are typically released every 14 days.
When was the first episode of The Making Of?
The first episode of The Making Of was released on Jun 25, 2024.
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