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The Long View

The Long View

Morningstar

Expand your investing horizons and look to the long term. Join hosts Christine Benz and Team as they talk to influential leaders in investing, advice, and personal finance about a wide-range of topics, such as asset allocation and balancing risk and return.
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The Long View - John Lynch: Rethinking Financial Education
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12/11/19 • 44 min

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John Lynch bio

John Lynch research

Center for Research on Consumer Financial Decision Making

Academic Research Council, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

Financial Education

Fernandes, Lynch, J.G., & Netemeyer, R.G. 2013. “Financial Literacy, Financial Education, and Downstream Financial Behaviors.” forthcoming in Management Science.

Examining Financial Education: How Literacy and Interventions Affect Financial Behaviors,” National Endowment for Financial Education, 2014.

Financial Literacy: Just-in-Time Is the Ticket,” Christine Benz and John Lynch, Morningstar.com, March 12, 2016.

Thaler, R. 2013. “Financial Literacy: Beyond the Classroom.” The New York Times, Oct. 5, 2013.

Kitces, M. 2016. “Financial Literacy Effectiveness and Providing Just-in-Time Training by Financial Advisors.” Nerd’s Eye View, Sept. 21, 2016.

Ward, A.F. & Lynch, J.G. 2019. “On a Need-to-Know Basis: How the Distribution of Responsibility Between Couples Shapes Financial Literacy and Financial Outcomes.” Journal of Consumer Research, Vol. 45, No. 5, P. 1013.

Retirement Planning and Financial Outcomes

Sammer, J. “Retirement Plans Are Leaking Money. Here’s Why Employers Should Care.” Society of Human Resources Management, Oct. 17, 2017.

Nudge theory definition

Thaler, R. & Sunstein C. 2008. “Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness" (New Haven: Yale University Press).

Wright, O. 2013. “How Organ Donation Is Getting Nudge in the Right Direction.” The Independent, Dec. 24, 2013.

How America Saves,” Vanguard, 2019.

Financial Decision-Making and Well-Being

Four-Year Myth,” Lumina Foundation.

Hunter, W.G., Zhang, C.Z., Hesson, A., et al. 2016. “What Strategies Do Physicians and Patients Discuss to Reduce Out-of-Pocket Costs? Analysis of Cost-Saving Strategies in 1,755 Outpatient Clinic Visits.” Society for Medical Decision Making, Vol. 36, No. 7, P. 900.

Netemeyer, R., Warmath, D., Fernandes, D. & Lynch. J. 2017. “How Am I Doing? Financial Well-Being, Its Potential Antecedents, and Its Relation to Psychological/Emotional Well-Being.” Advances in Consumer Research, Vol. 45, P. 780.

Complaint Snapshot: Debt Collection,” Consumer Financial Protection Bur...

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On today’s episode of The Long View podcast, we welcome back William Bernstein. This is Bill’s third appearance on the podcast. In fact, he was our very first guest back when we started The Long View in 2019. Bill is a neurologist turned investment advisor. He is also the author of several books, including The Intelligent Asset Allocator, The Four Pillars of Investing, If You Can: How Millennials Can Get Rich Slowly, and The Delusion of Crowds. Bill has just come out with a new edition of The Four Pillars of Investing. So, we wanted to have him on to discuss the new book and what’s changed since that book’s original publication more than 20 years ago.

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Bio

The Four Pillars of Investing, Second Edition

The Intelligent Asset Allocator: How to Build Your Portfolio to Maximize Returns and Minimize Risk

If You Can: How Millennials Can Get Rich Slowly

The Delusion of Crowds: Why People Go Mad in Groups

Bernstein: ‘I Don’t Think the System Needs Nudges. I Think the System Needs Dynamite,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, May 7, 2019.

Bill Bernstein: We’re Starting to See all of the Signs of a Bubble,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, March 10, 2021.

The Four Pillars of Investing

Robert Kaplan

Who Is Charlie Munger?

Antti Ilmanen

Expected Returns: An Investor’s Guide to Harvesting Market Rewards, by Antti Ilmanen

Bernstein’s ‘4 Pillars of Investing’ & How They Work To Boost Returns,” by Anupam Nagar, economictimes.indiatimes.com, July 31, 2021.

Are You Leaving Money on the Table From Your Funds’ Returns?” by Amy Arnott, Morningstar.com, July 12, 2022.

William Bernstein on Deep Risk, Shallow Risk, and Investing for the Long-Term,” by Larry Frank, Sr., betterfinancialeducation.com, Aug. 24, 2022.

Where Are the Customers’ Yachts? Or a Good Hard Look at Wall Street, by Fred Schwed

Retirement

Playing Inflation Russian Roulette in Retirement,” by William Bernstein, advisorperspectives.com, Nov. 29, 2022.

Riskless at Age 104,” by William Bernstein, advisorperspectives.com, March 20, 2023.

William Bernstein on Holding Both Treasury Bonds and TIPS (or Savings I Bonds),” by Jonathan Ping, mymoneyblog.com, April 16, 2023.

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The Long View - Joel Tillinghast:  The Art of Investing
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05/30/23 • 51 min

Our guest this week is Joel Tillinghast, portfolio manager at Fidelity. Joel manages a number of equity funds focused on intrinsic value and mostly small-cap stocks—perhaps most notably, the Low-Priced Stock Fund, which he has managed since 1989. Joel originally joined Fidelity as an equities analyst in 1986 after famously cold-calling Peter Lynch to secure a job interview. He earned his bachelor’s in economics from Wesleyan University and MBA from the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern and is a CFA charter holder. Joel’s track record is simply impressive. Morningstar recognized him in 2021 as Outstanding Portfolio Manager and in 2002, as Domestic Stock Fund Manager of the Year. After more than 40 years in investing, Joel is slated to retire as a full-time portfolio manager at the end of 2023. We’re so excited to host him on the podcast today to discuss his career and his insights.

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Bio

Fidelity Low-Priced Stock

Fidelity Global Growth and Value Class

Fidelity Global Intrinsic Value Class

Fidelity NorthStar® Fund

Big Money Thinks Small: Biases, Blind Spots, and Smarter Investing, by Joel Tillinghast

Value and Small-Cap Investing

Don’t Judge a Stock by Its Price! That’s one of Tillinghast’s Stock-Picking Secrets,” by Anupam Nagar, economictimes.indiantimes.com, April 17, 2021.

Happy Results Turned Up Everywhere You Looked,” by Tim Gray, nytimes.com, Jan. 17, 2020.

Peter Lynch Protégé Joel Tillinghast: How to Avoid Value Traps,” by Johnny Hopkins, aquirersmultiple.com, June 25, 2018.

Investment Industry

Fidelity’s Joel Tillinghast Was Out of Favor. Then the Meme-Stock Craze Happened,” by Justin Baer, wsj.com, Aug. 4, 2021.

5 Traits of Successful Investors,” by Joel Tillinghast, oprah.com.

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Our guest on the podcast today is Andrew Blake. Andrew is associate director of wealth management for Cerulli Associates. He is a member of Cerulli’s Wealth Management practice, leading coverage of asset manager distribution strategy for products sold through financial advisors. With a focus on the wealth management landscape, Andrew assesses trends related to advisor use of investment products as well as their relationships with clients and varying practice types. Prior to joining Cerulli, Andrew worked at John Hancock Investment Management and a Boston-area RIA. He has a BBA in marketing as well as management and strategic leadership from Ohio University.

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Bio

The Cerulli Report: US Intermediary Distribution 2023

The Cerulli Report: US Advisor Metrics 2023

Research

US Broker/Dealer Marketplace 2023

US RIA Marketplace 2023

US High-Net-Worth and Ultra-High-Net-Worth Markets 2023

US Retirement Markets 2023

State of US Wealth Management Technology 2024

Advisors

The Cerulli Edge: US Advisor

More Advisors Are Making the Move to RIA, Independent Models,” by Josh Welsh, investmentnews.com, Oct. 31, 2023.

The Role of the Retail-Direct Channel in a Growing Financial Planning Profession,” cfp.net, March 28, 2023.

Financial Adviser Shortage Looms, Cerulli Reports,” by Natalie Lin, planadviser.com, Jan. 16, 2024.

Asset Managers Embrace a Technology Arms Race,” cerulli.com, Oct. 27, 2022.

As Retirement Exodus Looms, Rookie Advisor Failure Rate at 72%, Study Finds,” by Ayo Mseka, insurancenewsnet.com, Feb. 12, 2024.

Other

Creative Planning

Peter Mallouk: The Financial Advice Industry Is ‘Still Very Messy,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, March 26, 2024.

Vanguard Personal Advisor Select

Schwab Intelligent Portfolios

iCapital

Case IQ

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Hi, and welcome to The Long View. I’m Christine Benz, director of personal finance and retirement planning for Morningstar. On this week’s episode, we’ll feature some of our favorite clips from interviews we’ve done with financial planners, advisors, and retirement researchers over the past year. It’s a counterpart to a previously released “best of” episode that was all about investing.

Daniel Crosby: Can Money Really Buy Happiness?The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Dec. 17, 2024.

Scott Rick: Are You a Tightwad or a Spendthrift?The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, June 18, 2024.

Anne Lester: You’re Bad at Savings and It’s Not Your Fault,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, March 12, 2024.

Mark Berg: How to Help Kids Financially Without Ruining Them,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Nov. 19, 2024.

Marc Freedman: The Case for Encore Careers,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Feb. 20, 2024.

Howard Gleckman: We Pretend This Isn’t a Problem,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Jan. 16, 2024.

Roger Young: Visualizing Retirement Is So Important,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Feb. 13, 2024.

Jamila Souffrant: ‘What Type of Life Do You Actually Want to Live?’The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, May 28, 2024.

Jackie Cummings Koski: Late Starters Can Still Find FIRE,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Aug. 20, 2024.

Meir Statman: ‘The Biggest Risks in Life Are Not in the Stock Market,’The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com.

Christine Benz: How to Retire,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Sept. 17, 2024.

Brad Klontz: What’s Your Money Script?The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Dec. 10, 2024.

Anne Tergesen: What Retirement Looks Like Today,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Oct. 29, 2024.

Jonathan Clements: ‘Life Is Full of Small Pleasures,’The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Oct. 15, 2024.

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Our guest this week is Dave Nadig. Dave is Financial Futurist at VettaFi, a data and research firm that focuses on the ETF industry as well as nascent technologies like digital assets. Dave boasts decades of experience analyzing and writing about the investment management business both at VettaFi and before that at ETF.com. Dave is a sought-after speaker and frequently quoted in the media on matters pertaining to the ETF industry, market structure, and many other topics. He is also the author of a book on ETFs called A Comprehensive Guide To Exchange-Traded Funds. Dave received his bachelor's degree in Creative Writing from the University of Massachusetts Amherst and his MBA from Boston University.

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Bio

@DaveNadig

VettaFi

A Comprehensive Guide to Exchange-Traded Funds, by Dave Nadig

Futurism and Innovation

Financial Futurist,” by Dave Nadig, etftrends.com.

Tokenize Absolutely Everything,” by Dave Nadig, etfdb.com, Nov. 19, 2021.

Indexing

ETF Prime: Dave Nadig on the Ethics of Indexing,” by Dave Nadig, nasdaq.com, May 17, 2022.

Dimensional’s Conversion of Mutual Funds Into ETFs Pays Off,” by Beagan Wilcox Volz, ft.com, July 14, 2022.

Bloomberg: Dave Nadig on Single-Stock ETF Risks,” by Aaron Neuwirth, etfdb.com, Aug. 19, 2022.

ETF Edge: Dave Nadig Talks Direct Indexing,” by Aaron Neuwirth, etftrends.com, Sept. 13, 2021.

Commentary: Direct Indexing: A Point Solution for Global Crises,” by Dave Nadig, jii.pm-research.com, May 19, 2022.

Direct Indexing Is Like Customizing a Tesla, but With Your Portfolio, Investor Says,” by Lizzy Gurdus, cnbc.com, Sept. 16, 2021.

Are You in the Retirement ‘risk zone’? These Investments Might Be Able to Protect You,” by Robert Powell, MarketWatch, July 15, 2022.

Governance and Regulation

Proposed Legislation Promises to Empower Investors. What to Know,” by Lauren Foster, barrons.com, June 14, 2022.

The INDEX Act: The Next ESG Battle Is for Your Vote,” by Dave Nadig, etftrends.com, Aug. 5, 2022.

VettaFi’s Mid-Year Research Update: Big Picture,” by Dave Nadig, etfdb.com, July 15, 2022.

The Inelastic Market Hypothesis: A Microstructural Interpretation,” by Jean-Philippe Bouchaud, arvix.org, January 2022.

Yahoo Finance: Dave Nadig Discusses Investing Amidst Rising Rates, Crypto, and ESG,” by Karrie Gordon, etftrends.com, April 14, 2022.

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Our guest on the podcast today is real estate expert and author Ilyce Glink. Ilyce writes a nationally syndicated column on real estate matters, and she’s written more than a dozen books on real estate and home buying, including 100 Questions Every First-Time Homebuyer Should Ask, which is now in its fourth edition. She’s also a regular contributor to WGN Radio. Her latest project, Best Money Moves, is a mobile-first employee benefit designed to help employees with financial wellness and reduce financial stress. Ilyce received her bachelor’s degree in English literature from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

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Bio

Ilyce Glink books

100 Questions Every First-Time Home Buyer Should Ask, Fourth Edition: With Answers From Top Brokers From Around the Country, by Ilyce Glink

Best Money Moves

ThinkGlink

Newsletter: Love, Money + Real Estate: Exploring Truths, Lies and Life’s Financial Milestones

Housing Market and Prospective Homebuyers

What Today’s Market Means for First-Time Home Buyers,” by Ilyce Glink and Samuel J. Tamkin, washingtonpost.com, May 25, 2022.

Love, Money + Real Estate #014: Is a Recession Looming?” by Ilyce Glink, glink.substack.com, May 3, 2022.

Real Estate Matters: Industry Trends as a New Year Arrives,” by Ilyce Glink and Samuel J. Tamkin, heraldtribune.com, Jan. 16, 2022.

Real Estate Matters: Homeowner Weighs Renting vs. Buying for Next Stage in Life,” by Ilyce Glink and Samuel J. Tamkin, heraldtribune.com, Aug. 8, 2021.

Retiree Considers Selling Townhouse, Buying Larger Single-Level Home,” by Ilyce Glink and Samuel J. Tamkin, washingtonpost.com, May 30, 2022.

Cullen Roche: Macro Is About Understanding the World for What It Is,” The Long View podcast, morningstar.com, Jan. 11, 2022.

Real Estate Trends for 2022,” by Ilyce Glink, thinkglink.com, Dec. 14, 2021.

Real Estate as an Investment

Real Estate Matters: We Stand by Advice That LLCs Aren’t for All Property Investors,” by Ilyce Glink and Samuel J. Tamkin, heraldtribune.com, Jan. 23, 2022.

Housing Shortage

Underbuilding Has Led to ‘Acute Shortage’ of Housing and ‘Affordability Crisis,’ Study Says,” by Ilyce Glink and Samuel J. Tamkin, washingtonpost.com, July 19, 2021.

Older Adults, Taxes, and Retirement

Calculating Capital Gains,” by Ilyce Glink, thinkglink.com, May 9, 2022.

Should You Prepay Your Mortgage?” by Ilyce Glink, hermoney.com, July 2, 2019.

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This week we’re pleased to bring you a special “State of Retirement Income” episode, which we recorded live at the annual Morningstar Investment Conference held recently in Chicago, Illinois. For this discussion, we turn the tables on Christine, who is part of an expert retirement planning panel that also includes David Blanchett, managing director and head of retirement research at PGIM DC Solutions, and Karsten Jeske, the founder of Early Retirement Now. Both were guests on past episodes of The Long View.

In this panel discussion, recorded before a live audience, we delve into a number of retirement-planning topics, including the impact of inflation on spending patterns; the implications of the recent selloff on asset allocation; sequence-of-returns risk; optimal Social Security-claiming practices; the role and importance of guaranteed income sources; and a lot more. Without further ado, please enjoy this special episode of The Long View.

Background

Karsten Jeske: Cracking the Code on Retirement Spending Rates,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Oct. 14, 2020.

Karsten Jeske’s blog, Early Retirement Now

Karsten Jeske’s bio

David Blanchett’s bio

David Blanchett: If You’re Retiring Now, You’re in a Pretty Rough Spot,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Sept. 18, 2019.

Christine Benz and John Rekenthaler: How Much Can You Safely Spend in Retirement?” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Dec. 21, 2021.

Inflation

How Much Should You Worry About Inflation in Retirement?” by Christine Benz, Morningstar.com, March 26, 2021.

Exploring the Retirement Consumption Puzzle,” by David Blanchett, financialplanningassociation.org, May 2014.

Safe Withdrawal Rates

The Trinity Study

The Safe Withdrawal Rate Series—A Guide for First-Time Readers,” by Karsten Jeske, EarlyRetirementNow.com, Nov. 15, 2021.

The State of Retirement Income: Safe Withdrawal Rates,” by Christine Benz, Jeffrey Ptak, and John Rekenthaler, Morningstar.com, November 2021.

What’s a Safe Retirement Spending Rate for the Decades Ahead?” by Christine Benz and John Rekenthaler, Morningstar.com, Nov. 11, 2021.

Drawdown From Financial Accounts in Retirement,” Vanguard Research by Thomas J. De Luca and Anna Madamba, vanguard.com, July 2021.

Retirement Portfolio Construction

Cliff Asness: Value Stocks Still Look Like a Bargain,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, May 31, 2022.

Bonds May Be Down, But Some Annuity Payouts Are Up,” by David Blanchett, thinkadvisor.com, May 13, 2022.

Inflation at 7%! Here’s Why I’m Not Running for the Hills (Yet)!” by Karsten Jeske, earlyretirementnow.com, Jan. 13, 2022.

The Bucket Approach to Retirement Allocation,” by Christine Benz, Morningstar.com, Jan. 25, 2021.

Christine Benz’s model bucket portfolios

Harold Evensky

What Is a Monte Carlo Simulation?

Guaranteed Income and Social Security

Guaranteed Income: A License to Spe...

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Bio

T. Rowe Price Capital Appreciation

Morningstar Announces 2012 Fund Manager of the Year Award Winners,” by Scott Burns, Morningstar.com, Jan. 3, 2013.

Announcing Morningstar’s 2017 U.S. Fund Managers of the Year,” by Laura Pavlenko Lutton, Morningstar.com, Jan. 28, 2018

This Fund Manager Is Among the Greats,” by Leo Acheson, Morningstar.com, Dec. 2, 2020.

Outlook/Forecast

2021 Global Market Outlook: Managing to the Other Side,” by David Giroux, Justin Thomson, and Mark Vaselkiv, troweprice.com, Dec. 14, 2020.

What it’s Like to Buy $9 billion in Stocks During a Market Crash—This Fund Manager Did Just That,” by Philip van Doorn, marketwatch.com, June 4, 2020.

Reorganization

T. Rowe Price Investment Management Overview

Is T. Rowe’s Split a Smart Way to Handle Growth?” by Katie Rushkewicz Reichart, Morningstar.com, Nov. 19, 2020.

Portfolio Construction & Stock-Picking

Why Every Growth Stock Portfolio Should be Overweight in Utilities,” by Sergei Klebnikov, forbes.com, Nov. 21, 2019.

Finding Overlooked Opportunities in the COVID-19 Market,” by David Giroux, troweprice.com, Sept. 10, 2020.

An Investor Bought Billions in Stocks When it Really Hurt,” by Tim Gray, nytimes.com, July 10, 2020.

Creativity in a Low-Yield Era,” by David Giroux and Mark Vaselkiv, troweprice.com, Jan, 21, 2020.

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Our guest this week is John Rogers, Jr. John is chairman, co-CEO, and chief investment officer of Ariel Investments, the firm he founded in 1983. John is the lead portfolio manager of the Ariel Fund and also comanages other Ariel strategies, including Ariel Small Cap Value, Small/Mid Cap Value, Mid Cap Value as well as Ariel Appreciation. John sits on several corporate boards, including the board of directors of McDonald's, Nike, and The New York Times and serves as vice chair of the University of Chicago's board of trustees. In 2008, John was given Princeton University's highest honor, the Woodrow Wilson Award, for his work in civic and philanthropic circles. John received his bachelor's degree from Princeton.

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Bio

DEI

White House Advisor on Importance of Financial Education,” CNBC.com, April 14, 2014.

Ariel Community Academy

Empowering the Next Generation of Investors Through Rapunzl,” Nasdaq.com, Nov. 12, 2020.

The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools’ Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion

Ariel-Schwab Black Investor Survey 2020

"Chicago-Based Ariel Investments Launches 'Project Black' to Grow Minority-Owned Businesses With $200 Million From JPMorgan Chase," by Robert Channick, chicagotribune.com, Feb. 27, 2021.

"Ariel Investments’ John Rogers Jr. Pushes Corporate Boards to Have Their Own 'Jackie Robinson Moment'," by Andrew Keshner, marketwatch.com, Dec. 2, 2020.

ESG

" 'This Is the Shareholders’ Money': Billionaire Warren Buffett Argues That Companies Should Stop Making Decisions Based on Their Social Beliefs," by Ben Winck, businessinsider.com, Jan. 2, 2020.

Ariel Investments ESG Policy

Nike Sustainability Initiatives

McDonald’s Sustainability Initiatives

Market Outlook and Value Investing

Warren Buffett Watcher Echoes Warning on Bitcoin: 'We’re Probably Near the Top of a Bubble'," by Berkeley Lovelace Jr., cnbc.com, Jan. 11, 2018.

Martijn Cremers Unveils ActiveShare.info Fund Website 2.0,” by Martijn Cremers, prnewswire.com, Sept. 15, 2020.

Bill Bernstein: We’re Starting to See All the Signs of the Bubble,” The Long View Podcast with Christine Benz and Jeffrey Ptak, Morningstar.com, March 10, 2021.

These 7 Value Stocks Will Benefit From an Economic Recovery,” by Reshma Kapadia, barrons.com, Feb. 28, 2021.

Ariel Investments’ John Rogers: Taking a Contrarian View to Beat Markets and Prejudice,” financialtimes.com, April 3, 2021.

Stocks

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