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The London Lyceum - Four Models of Baptism, Catechesis, and Communion with Jonathan Watson

Four Models of Baptism, Catechesis, and Communion with Jonathan Watson

10/12/22 • 41 min

The London Lyceum

Jordan and Brandon talk with Jonathan Watson about his book on models of baptism, catechesis and communion. They cover topics like: What is baptism, catechesis and communion? What are the various models for how these relate? What is your preferred model and why? Which model deserves greater attention but has had the least popularity? What ways are there for Protestants (and Baptists) to think more deeply on this topic? What ways are there that they should change their practices? And more!
Resources:
Catechesis and Initiation in Church History

*Cyril of Jerusalem, The Catechetical Lectures of S. Cyril, in Cyril of Jerusalem, Gregory Nazianzen, NPNF-II, vol. 7, ed. Philip Schaff, trans. Edwin Hamilton Gifford, 1–157 (Buffalo: Christian Literature, 1894; reprint, Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers 1994).

Dujarier, Michael. A History of the Catechumenate: The First Six Centuries. Translated by Edward J. Haasl. New York: William H. Sadlier, 1979.

Fisher, John D. C. Christian Initiation: Baptism in the Medieval West: A Study in the Disintegration of the Primitive Rite of Initiation. London: S.P.C.K., 1965.

Johnson, Maxwell E. The Rites of Christian Initiation: Their Evolution and Interpretation, 2nd ed. Collegeville, MN: The Liturgical Press, 2007.

*Packer, J. I. and Gary A. Parrett, Grounded in the Gospel: Building Believers the Old-Fashioned Way. Grand Rapids: Baker Books, 2010.

*Pelikan, Jaroslav. Credo: Historical and Theological Guide to Creeds and Confessions of Faith in the Christian Tradition. New Haven: Yale University Press, 2003.

Yarnold, Edward. The Awe-Inspiring Rites of Initiation: The Origins of the R.C.I.A., 2nd ed. (Collegeville: The Liturgical Press, 1994.

Relating Credobaptism and Credocommunion

Hammett, John. 40 Questions about Baptism and the Lord's Supper. Grand Rapids: Kregel Academic, 2015.

*Jamieson, Bobby. Going Public: Why Baptism is Required for Church Membership. Nashville: B&H Academic, 2015.

Kimble, Jeremy. 40 Questions about Church Membership and Discipline. Grand Rapids: Kregel Academic, 2017.

Vandiver, Dallas. Who Can Take the Lord's Supper?: A Biblical-Theological Argument for Close Communion (Monographs in Baptist History). Eugene, OR: Pickwick Publications, 2021. (This is on my reading list, but looks great!)

Paedobaptism

Cullmann, Oscar. Baptism in the New Testament. Studies in Biblical Theology, 1st ser. 1. London: SCM Press Ltd, 1950.

*Leithart, Peter J. Baptism: A Guide to Life from Death. Bellingham: Lexham Press, 2021. (Leithart also affirms paedocommunion)

Trigg, Jonathan D. Baptism in the Theology of Martin Luther. New York: E. J. Brill, 1994.

Paedocommunion

*Gallant, Tim. Feed My Lambs. Grande Prairie, AB: Pactum Reformanda Pub, 2002.

*Venema, Cornelius P. Children at the Lord’s Table: Assessing the Case of Paedocommunion. Grand Rapids: Reformation Heritage Books, 2009.

Strawbridge, Gregg ed. The Case for Covenant Communion. Monroe, LA: Athanasius Press, 2006.

Ware, Timothy. The Orthodox Way. Crestwood, NY: St. Vladimir’s Seminary Press, 1986.

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Jordan and Brandon talk with Jonathan Watson about his book on models of baptism, catechesis and communion. They cover topics like: What is baptism, catechesis and communion? What are the various models for how these relate? What is your preferred model and why? Which model deserves greater attention but has had the least popularity? What ways are there for Protestants (and Baptists) to think more deeply on this topic? What ways are there that they should change their practices? And more!
Resources:
Catechesis and Initiation in Church History

*Cyril of Jerusalem, The Catechetical Lectures of S. Cyril, in Cyril of Jerusalem, Gregory Nazianzen, NPNF-II, vol. 7, ed. Philip Schaff, trans. Edwin Hamilton Gifford, 1–157 (Buffalo: Christian Literature, 1894; reprint, Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers 1994).

Dujarier, Michael. A History of the Catechumenate: The First Six Centuries. Translated by Edward J. Haasl. New York: William H. Sadlier, 1979.

Fisher, John D. C. Christian Initiation: Baptism in the Medieval West: A Study in the Disintegration of the Primitive Rite of Initiation. London: S.P.C.K., 1965.

Johnson, Maxwell E. The Rites of Christian Initiation: Their Evolution and Interpretation, 2nd ed. Collegeville, MN: The Liturgical Press, 2007.

*Packer, J. I. and Gary A. Parrett, Grounded in the Gospel: Building Believers the Old-Fashioned Way. Grand Rapids: Baker Books, 2010.

*Pelikan, Jaroslav. Credo: Historical and Theological Guide to Creeds and Confessions of Faith in the Christian Tradition. New Haven: Yale University Press, 2003.

Yarnold, Edward. The Awe-Inspiring Rites of Initiation: The Origins of the R.C.I.A., 2nd ed. (Collegeville: The Liturgical Press, 1994.

Relating Credobaptism and Credocommunion

Hammett, John. 40 Questions about Baptism and the Lord's Supper. Grand Rapids: Kregel Academic, 2015.

*Jamieson, Bobby. Going Public: Why Baptism is Required for Church Membership. Nashville: B&H Academic, 2015.

Kimble, Jeremy. 40 Questions about Church Membership and Discipline. Grand Rapids: Kregel Academic, 2017.

Vandiver, Dallas. Who Can Take the Lord's Supper?: A Biblical-Theological Argument for Close Communion (Monographs in Baptist History). Eugene, OR: Pickwick Publications, 2021. (This is on my reading list, but looks great!)

Paedobaptism

Cullmann, Oscar. Baptism in the New Testament. Studies in Biblical Theology, 1st ser. 1. London: SCM Press Ltd, 1950.

*Leithart, Peter J. Baptism: A Guide to Life from Death. Bellingham: Lexham Press, 2021. (Leithart also affirms paedocommunion)

Trigg, Jonathan D. Baptism in the Theology of Martin Luther. New York: E. J. Brill, 1994.

Paedocommunion

*Gallant, Tim. Feed My Lambs. Grande Prairie, AB: Pactum Reformanda Pub, 2002.

*Venema, Cornelius P. Children at the Lord’s Table: Assessing the Case of Paedocommunion. Grand Rapids: Reformation Heritage Books, 2009.

Strawbridge, Gregg ed. The Case for Covenant Communion. Monroe, LA: Athanasius Press, 2006.

Ware, Timothy. The Orthodox Way. Crestwood, NY: St. Vladimir’s Seminary Press, 1986.

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