The Lila Rose Show

In today’s Christmas episode, I sit down with the brilliant Fr. Robert Spitzer—renowned theologian and philosopher—to reflect on the mystery of Christmas and the profound lessons we can draw from suffering and humility. Fr. Spitzer also shares how his blindness has deepened his faith, transforming a challenge into a blessing.The story of salvation begins with a baby—helpless, vulnerable, and entirely dependent. Jesus entered our messy, broken world not in grandeur but in a humble manger. His Incarnation calls us to embrace childlike trust and humility, showing us that strength is perfected in weakness.Join us as we explore why Christ might have chosen such a humble beginning, how suffering can deepen our spiritual lives, and how the Incarnation changes everything.Check out Fr Spitzer's work: https://www.magiscenter.com/A big thank to our partner, EWTN, the world’s leading Catholic network! Discover news, entertainment and more at https://www.ewtn.com/ Check out our Sponsors: -Hallow: https://www.hallow.com/lila Enter into prayer more deeply this season with the Hallow App, get 3 months free by using this link to sign up! -Good Ranchers: https://go.goodranchers.com/lila Purchase your American Meat Delivered subscription today and get a free add-on of beef, chicken, bacon, or salmon! Use code LILA for $25 off! -EveryLife: https://www.everylife.com Buy diapers from an amazing pro-life diaper company and use code LILA and get 10% off!-Seven Weeks Coffee: https://www.sevenweekscoffee.com Buy your pro-life coffee with code LILA and get up to 25% off!00:00:00 - Intro00:00:32 - Welcome, Fr Spitzer00:01:10 - What’s the tradition of celebrating Christmas?00:02:29 - Modest means is the main thing00:11:31 - Why such a specific birth narrative?00:12:34 - Hallow00:13:58 - Jesus is true man00:15:14 - Jesus doesn’t get special privileges00:16:01 - Free choice00:21:52 - Why the slaughter of the innocents?00:22:57 - Good Ranchers00:24:13 - God’s project is not limited to a single group in a single era00:27:55 - If you’ve got everything in this world...00:37:14 - EveryLife00:38:02 - Fr Spitzer’s Blindness00:45:41 - Seven Weeks00:46:39 - Fr Spitzer felt utterly humiliated00:58:57 - We must become like children01:06:17 - Mother Angelica’s quote01:11:04 - Scroll of Isaiah01:14:02 - Why did Jesus come as a baby?01:21:10 - Every child is the Christmas miracle

Exorcism interviews have recently exploded in popularity, racking up millions of views on YouTube and social media. But is this focus on demons and their influence on humans a healthy exploration—or could it be playing into Satan's plans, granting him undue attention and power while paralyzing us with fear and superstition?

Today, I'm joined by Dr. Sean Tobin, a psychologist trusted by the Archdiocese of Los Angeles to evaluate whether individuals should be referred to an exorcist. With years of experience working with those facing demonic oppression and possession, Dr. Tobin shares fresh perspectives on what God might be accomplishing in these situations and offers little-known approaches for dealing with stubborn cases.

He also addresses a troubling trend: fear and powerlessness among Christians—something completely contrary to God’s design. Dr. Tobin reminds us of the need to reject both fear and demonic forces, reclaiming the Spirit of power, love, and self-control that God has given us (2 Timothy 1:7). His insights are sure to inspire and empower you in the spiritual battles we face.

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Timestamps:

00:00:00 - Intro

00:05:17 - The devil can hide behind mental illness

00:06:39 - Examples of paranormal activity at work

00:07:28 - Good Ranchers

00:08:47 - God allows demonic activity for a purpose

00:10:19 - The devil always operates within our psychology

00:17:39 - Defining our terms

00:18:42 - EveryLife

00:20:30 - The devil wants us to respond

00:24:15 - The positive role of fear

00:29:19 - Not just getting out of Egypt

00:31:25 - Seven Weeks Coffee

00:33:46 - Quantity vs Quality of faith

00:34:43 - Superstitious faith vs relationship with Jesus

00:40:08 - Prayer

00:41:44 - Physical War vs Spiritual War

00:43:27 - Pregnancy and Passivity

00:45:25 - We expect a great power struggle

00:46:36 - Clinical examples

01:00:34 - Sometimes it takes years of exorcisms, sometimes 1 session

01:07:10 - Thomas Merton and the Spirituality of Satan

01:15:59 - Closing in prayer