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The KPI Cafe

The KPI Cafe

Reunion Marketing

The KPI Cafe began as an endeavor to help automotive dealers understand the strategies, tactics, best practices, and nuances of digital marketing. It evolved into robust conversations with experts across the full spectrum of topics for automotive retail staff: leadership, finance, sales, SEO, SEM, social media, video, culture, and much more. You'll find a trove of actionable insights that can drive important -- and sometimes systemic -- change in how you approach the various aspects of your business. In addition, you can also learn about the journey some people have made in automotive retail from jockey to BDC Directors or from the sales floor to ownership or other unique paths to success. Host Dane Saville, a Co-founder of and Brand and Public Relations Manager for Reunion Marketing, brings a healthy dose of enthusiasm, vigor, and passion for getting the message out that can genuinely help your dealership. He summons his past as a professional wrestler to transfer the excitement through the microphone that some of his colleagues have described as "one of the best voices for radio."
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In this episode of the KPI Cafe, our guest is Brian Kramer, General Manager of Germain Toyota of Naples. He's been a vocal thought leader in automotive retail on how to break the status quo and embrace methodologies that champion consumer expectations and shopping behaviors, as well as apply the best of what disruptors like Carvana are doing -- that many dealerships are not. You'll hear perspective on sourcing vehicles, digital retailing, reducing friction, and much more.
By the end of the episode, we hope that you'll have some constructive challenges to ensure that you're doing what you say and doing what you're not (today).
Here's what you can expect:
Show Opens

How is Brian an Ohio State Fan? (3:20)

A Breakdown of Carvana (5:04)

  • Vehicle Sourcing
  • Branding
  • Advertising
  • Transparency/Fairness

Distilling It All Down: What Do “They” Get Right? (12:58)

  • Clarity
  • “Doing What We Said We Would Do”

Dealer Mindset to Embrace These Changes (17:27)

  • Culture
  • “Put It in the Slow Cooker”

Why Haven’t Dealers Dominated Sourcing Local Vehicles? (20:08)

  • Consistency
  • “I’m the Only One”
  • Short-Sighted Fixation

What Should Dealers Model in Digital Retailing After Carvana? (24:16)

  • What You Can Do, We Can Do, Too
  • First-Party Data
  • Instacart Comfortability
  • Pay for Time

Cautionary Tips in Embracing Digital Retailing (31:49)

  • Stress Testing
  • Work on Inefficiencies
  • Focus on Top 3 Things

Prognosticating the Importance of Brick’n’Mortar (37:08)

  • The Meeting Place
  • Disney Club Example
  • Innovation/Leveraging Networks
  • Service/Body Shop/Parts

Reducing Friction Points in the Dealership’s Purchase Process (41:33)

  • Airborne, Not Chairborne
  • KPIs vs. Customers
  • “Why Can’t You Do It Like Germain?”

Lessons Learned from Today Applicable to Service? (50:12)

  • Why We Did It
  • Training Staff and Customers
  • Need the Data

Connecting with Brian Kramer (56:08)

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In this return episode of the KPI Cafe, Dane Saville and Brent Wees start off discussing how much car dealers are expected to multitask, even in the face of "right-sized" staff, but quickly dive into different paths of thought as unexpected insights, questions, and concerns pop up throughout this hour-long session of impactful takeaways will have you thinking about your own dealership's internal processes.
Here's what you can expect:
Catching up with Brent

  • Active VP of Marketing for ALC Schools
  • Quick Quote
  • Other software (October launch)

Brent’s Entrance to Automotive Retail

  • Graphic design
  • Manta Ray magazine
  • Dashboard’s “Glovebox”
  • Toyota relationships

Interesting Journeys into Automotive
Context for the Episode: Solutions | Multitasking

  • People business
  • Tools and software to do tasks
  • Complication of multitasking

Brent’s Presentation in the United Kingdom

  • Applause Example: Golf Marshall
  • Application to Automotive: Focus on the Job/Simplicity
  • Complication: Wear More Hats
  • The Truth About Multitasking

Cancellation Culture of Services and Technology

  • Panic to the Bottom Line Budget
  • The Ask to “Do More”
  • Moving Forward from Major Cuts

How to Look at Technology and Services That Multitask on Our Behalf

  • Automation | Human Team
  • Will This Actually Help People? — The True Question for Leadership
  • The What, Not the Who

The Role of Leadership

  • 30-Day Timecrunch
  • Commitment | Compassionate Leadership
  • Happiness Factor
  • Software / New Partnership Adoption
  • Internal Mentorship Among Staff
  • Management Teams

“Their Process” Issue

  • Fluctuations in Performance
  • Same Ole’, Same Ole’
  • Accountability and Hard Sponsorship
  • The Guidebook
  • Blow a Dealer Principal’s Mind
  • Talk is Cheap Until the Data Supports It

Balance of Vendor Services: One Vendor vs. Many Vendors

  • Intention vs. Efficiency
  • Foundation of Good Partners
  • “Board of Directors”
  • Advantages of Small Agencies

Jumping Vendors: Being Deliberate with Assessment

  • Empathetic for Comfort
  • Dollar Amount Attributed to Transitions/Changes
  • Data Tells the Story
  • Automotive Retail is a Mix of Alcoholism and Central American Politics
  • Hit Pause

Companies, Strategies, or Types of Products/Solutions to Reduce Multitasking

  • Quick Quote and Roadster’s Mitigation of Back-and-Forth
  • Centralizing Workflows with Agencies
  • Role of Networking

Lessons Learned from the Artificial Intelligence Craze
Concluding Thoughts with Brent Wees

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In this KPI Cafe, the CEO of Step One Automotive, Fernando Arellano Geddes, shares perspective on the ongoing education that he provides to folks across his organization. Throughout this episode, you'll hear about how "normal can do outstanding " with a formalized training process that not only focuses on the hard KPIs but also uplifts leadership skills and capabilities.
That's not all: Mr. Geddes dives into the impact the learning has made on his people, as well as the tangible and intangible tracking that demonstrates how the learnings are applied.
You'll also get some fantastic perspective from Hannah Lifson of Friendemic for "What's Going on in Auto?".
Here's what you can expect:
What's Going on in Auto? w/ Hannah Lifson
Types of Educational Opportunities at Step One

  • Normal Doing Outstanding
  • NADA Academy
  • "Owners of the Future"
  • 1/2 Day of Training per Month
  • Service Included
  • Partnership / Goals
  • Cooking Analogy

Impact of Ongoing Learning

  • Ongoing Review of KPIs
  • Motivation
  • Changing Culture

Tracking the Application of Ongoing Learning

  • Hard KPIs: Volume, Gross Profit, Etc
  • Reconditioning Process Story
  • What to Measure? What Training?

Fernando Arellano Geddes' Origin Story

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Amazon offers a prime opportunity for advertisers in automotive retail to reach a multitude of local consumers who can help satisfy all profit centers of a dealership, as well as help dealers with inventory acquisition. This platform, including its Amazon Garage, and all of its network partners create a powerful programmatic channel that offers audiences and targeting to address consumers in the Awareness, Consideration, and Conversion stages of the path to purchase.
Vasilios Lambos, CMO for Cognition Digital, navigates us through how your dealership's advertising strategy can leverage Amazon: from audience and targeting layering to streaming audio ads to aligning with customer intent, and much more.
In addition to the primary interview, we also have Reunion Marketing's own Emily Usher on to discuss "What's Going on in Auto?"
If you have any thoughts or questions, please reach out to host Dane Saville at [email protected] to join the conversation!
As always, please subscribe to the KPI Cafe on your favorite podcast platform!
Here's what you can expect from today's episode:
Opening Comments and Context
What's Going on in Auto w/ Emily Usher
Introducing Vasilios and His Origin Story
Vasilios' Origin Story
The Why of Amazon
The 101 of Amazon Garage

  • Parts/Accessories
  • Year-Make-Model Upload
  • Availability for Advertisers
  • Amazon DSP: 1st-Party Data

Can Amazon Hit All Dealer Profit Centers?

  • At the Start: Impression Delivery for Variable Ops
  • Flexibility in Criteria
  • Vehicle Acquisition

Amazon Audiences and Targeting

  • Amazon-owned 1st Party
  • Combine/Segment
  • Lifestyle Example
  • Layering

Amazon Goals and Objectives

  • All Available Upper-Funnel Metrics
  • Offline Attribution
  • No Attribution Window Limitation

Does Amazon Offer a Full-Funnel Opportunity?

  • Awareness-Consideration-Conversion
  • Think of Who an Amazon Customer Is
  • Consumer Intent / Business Objective Alignment

Inventory Feed Details

  • Variables

A Dive into Streaming Audio Ads

  • Logged User
  • Device Ownership
  • Full-Funnel Attribution

Final Tips About Amazon Advertising
Connecting with Cognition Digital
Previewing Next Week's Episode

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The Business Development Center (BDC) continues to be a point of conversation for automotive retail. It turns out that there are more options, more nuance, and more best practices to consider and implement based on a dealer's individual needs because, after all, one size does not fit all. To help us dive more into this topic, we have Wendy Reeves, Founder of BDC Angels, to walk us through a high-level perspective on the BDC, then a quick pivot into many more of the details.
If you've never utilized a BDC or felt a BDC just won't work for you, Wendy creates a compelling case on how this can be a vital component to your dealership's processes and customer experience.
If you have any thoughts or questions, please reach out to host Dane Saville at [email protected] to join the conversation!
And, of course, we have good friend Dave Foy coming to share "What's Going on in Auto?"
Here's what you can expect from today's episode:
Opening the Show
What's Going on in Auto? w/ Dave Foy

Wendy's Origin Story
Tips to Help Ensure the BDC is Successful

  • Dedicated Onsite Manager
  • Close Trio
  • Relevance

Various Types of BDC

  • One-Size-Doesn't-Fit-All
  • Determining Your BDC Type
  • Onsite
  • Outsource
  • Centralized
  • Offshore

Final Tips from Wendy
Contacting Wendy

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In this episode of the KPI Cafe, Laurie Foster of Foster Strategies Group challenges the status quo to dealerships' sales process. With compressed margins, increased competition from new players like Carvana, and the fluctuating circumstances of the economy, it's more important than ever that your process gives you more at-bats with every opportunity.
Part of that means activating your finance managers earlier in the process because you know that in-market car shoppers have questions regarding financing and leasing; part of that means thinking about your Business Development Center as more than a call center.
Laurie also gives insights about how to get buy-in from your team with these fundamental questions, as well as some tips about compensation for the new duties assigned. In the end, it's all about alignment.
Here's what you can expect:
3:22 Laurie’s Automotive Origin Story

  • Furniture Sales
  • Projected Growth Path in Automotive
  • Possibilities

4:45 Foster Strategies Group

  • Leadership
  • Serving Others
  • Maximize Management Potential
  • Vendor Partnerships

6:37 Context for the Episode

  • Inventory
  • Margin Compression
  • Issues

7:03 Activating Your F&I

  • Role Redefinition and Clarification
  • Current Process and Its Issues
  • A Fresh Approach

16:40 Good Customer Experience. Better Results

  • Customer Intent
  • Friction
  • Dollars and “Sense”
  • PVR
  • Less Time
  • Product Penetration and Revenue Projections

21:18 Getting Buy-In

  • Know Your Audience
  • Measurement

24:00 Training for Comfortability

  • Roleplay
  • Priming the Customer

25:26 Managing Other Staff Concerns

  • Getting the Help Wanted
  • Greater Communication

27:53 What Does the Whole Process Look Like

  • Forward Momentum
  • BDC Statistics

29:40 Optimal BDC

  • Break It Down
  • Current Role / Responsibility

31:41 Alignment on Shifts in Roles

  • Top-Through
  • Cohesion
  • Tap the Brakes

33:51 Perception vs. Reality
35:43 Customer-Centric. Dealer-Centric.

  • Good Experience Across Touchpoints
  • Dealership Customer

37:17 Better Together

  • More Opportunities
  • Market Statistics
  • The Right Principles

38:45 Breaking Down the Silos

  • Value and Elevation
  • Business. Development. Center.
  • Football Analogy

44:06 The Hiring Process

  • Change Our Words

46:01 What’s Coming Up with Laurie

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Can you define your organization's culture?
Is the culture creating positive outcomes for your business?
Culture is often a difficult aspect to manage because there are so many elements that comprise it, both tangible and intangible. While it starts at the top of the organization to align culture with core values, ever single member of your organization contributes towards culture and participates within it.
To discuss this in greater detail, the KPI Cafe brings two new guests to share their perspectives built from years as leaders inside the automotive industry: April Simmons, Corporate Internet and Marketing Director at Horne Automotive, and Troy Scheer, an agile Chief Marketing Officer and dealership consultant.
From building culture to identifying red flags to ensuring more inclusivity, April and Troy offer up myriad perspectives and insights that can help you simply just assess if your culture's effectiveness or even help you ask the right questions to start building a true culture that serves your people.
In addition to insights from these two, we're continuing with our new segment "What's Going on in Auto?" with Reunion Marketing's CEO Dave Spannhake diving into the many big changes in automotive at large.
Here's what you can expect to learn:
What's Going on in Auto?: At Large w/ Dave Spannhake

  • 2020-2021
  • 16-17 Mil Projections 2023
  • Similar Lessons to Great Recession
  • Position to Anticipate
  • Abandonment of FLOC
  • Building Ecosystems to Combat Reduced Targeting
  • Fixed Operations Marketing

Catching up with April Simmons
What Troy Scheer Has Been Up to in 2022
From Where Do You Derive a Business' Culture?

  • Top-Down

Seeing People Impact Culture

  • Sprinkles, Not the Core
  • Not Training Managers to be Managers
  • One Perk Doesn't Fit All
  • One-on-One Time
  • Cut the Cancer

What Can Be Done to Improve Culture?

  • Treat Employees as We Want Customers Treated
  • "Parenting" / Human Principles
  • "I Work for My Team"
  • Coaching Perspective
  • Cause-Effect of Retention
  • COVID Story

Identifying Culture Red-Flags / Re-Fresh

  • Catch While Small
  • Never Step Too Far Away
  • Numbers Never Lie
  • Walk Through

How to Make Sure Culture is Inclusive

  • Mini-Mentorship
  • Understanding Role in Organization
  • Clarity
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Your Google Business Profile listings are an integral part of your digital marketing strategy. There are a number of components that your dealership needs to ensure are leveraged to maximize your potential for visibility in non-branded category searches for your vehicles and services.
George Nenni of Generations Digital joins the KPI Cafe to talk about the fundamentals of your listings to help you make smart, strategic decisions about updating and maintaining your Google Business Profiles across you dealership's operations. In addition, he tosses in a number of insightful tidbits that he's gleaned from being in the weeds, building his expertise for this particular strategy.
Here's all of what you can expect:
George Nenni’s Origin Story (2:25)

GMB Listings 101: Crash Course (4:28)

  • Listings
  • Categories
  • Customer-Facing Profit Center

Importance of Images for GMB (6:32)

  • Owner vs. Customer
  • Google
  • Image File

The Play of Citations (8:29)

  • NAP
  • Moz
  • Educate the Internet
  • Primary Number on GMB

Deep-Linking on GMB (10:45)

  • Orange Notification

Q&A on Your GMB (11:59)

  • Wild West
  • George’s Suggestion
  • 3 Likes

Best Practices for Managing Reviews (14:34)

  • Subscribe to Platforms
  • 1-on-1 Engagement
  • Keywords

Impact of GMB Posts (16:41)

  • Frequency
  • Indexation
  • Evergreen
  • Keywords

Getting Your GMB to Populate for the Right Searches (17:46)

  • Category Best Practices
  • Google Knowledge Graph
  • Selecting Primary Category

Role of Attributes (19:56)

  • Consumer-Connected
  • Confirm or Deny

What Does Automotive Retail Still Not Get Right? (21:30)

Is There a Cadence of New Content for GMB? (23:59)

Sources to Help Dealers Manage GMB (25:07)

Final Tips on GMB from George Nenni (27:14)

Connecting with George (28:17)

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In this episode of the KPI Cafe, Matt Sneed from Power Ford joins Host Dane Saville to dive deep into the weeds about the proper way to leverage Facebook advertising. In this hour-long session, a great number of topics from Facebook's purpose to traditional advertising to the strategy itself to measurement; literally, no stone is left unturned in this discussion about how your dealership can benefit by following the guidelines laid out.
Here's what you can expect:
4:53 Guest Introduction: Matt Sneed

5:25 Matt’s Automotive Origin Story

7:57 Context to Set Up the Episode

8:45 Transition of Ad Dollars from Traditional to Digital

  • 2017: How to Market and Sell Cars?
  • Mustang Example
  • AIA (Automotive Inventory Ads)
  • Moneyball Effect / Cost per Sale
  • Vendor Evaluation

13:20 The Inherent Waste of Traditional Media

  • Not Your Buyers
  • Not in Market
  • But the Feel Good Factor

16:21 Facebook Being an Intent and Stimulus Channel

  • Influence the 98.8%
  • More Control
  • Doing Social Media vs. “Doing” Social Media

19:10 Getting to the Land of No Competitors

  • Your Website | Your Inventory
  • Marketing to Everyone | Marketing to No One
  • Full Funnel Strategy
  • Quality Content

23:55 Two Trends in Automotive Marketing

  • Quality > Quantity
  • Relevance is King
  • People are Finicky
  • Click-to-Marketplace

27:30 Managing Organic in Conjunction with Paid Ads

  • BDC
  • Podium
  • The Challenge

29:39 Importance of Branding

  • Consistency
  • Tone of Voice
  • Reputation Management
  • Brand Evangelism

36:00 Breakdown of a Facebook Advertising Campaign

  • Sales and Service
  • Birthday, Inventory, Thank You, Lost Customers, Et Cetera
  • The Association with Programmatic
  • Dealer Distinctives
  • It’s About Them

46:14 A Quick Review of Niche Budgeting

  • Historical Sales Data?
  • Incentives

49:20 Other Cool Facebook Ad Capabilities

  • Oracle
  • Retargeting
  • Inventory Feed

51:50 How to Measure Your Facebook Ads

  • Sales Matchback
  • DTSC
  • Cost per Sold Unit
  • Attribution

56:01 Final Thoughts: Getting Dealers to Buy Into It

  • Sales Effectiveness
  • Go All In
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In this episode of the KPI Cafe, Dr. Scott Garlock, the Executive Director of the Cleveland Jazz Orchestra, shares his insights and passion for the only true American art form. Whether you're an avid jazz listener or have never really witnessed the beauty of this form of musical improvisation, there is plenty to glean: the history of jazz, introducing yourself to jazz through fusion and funk, the way players meet creatively while playing, and much more.
You'll also get to learn more about the Cleveland Jazz Orchestra itself, including the wonderful work they do in taking musical instruments as donations, refurbishing them, and providing underprivileged middle-school and high-school students an opportunity to discover the joy of playing.
I promise that you'll break out the vinyl (as I do) or pop on some downloads or streaming to jam out to some tunes -- and, hopefully, they'll be to one of the greats like Coltrane, Brubeck, or Davis.
Here's what you can expect:
Casual Conversation and Context

  • The Batman
  • Jazz Appreciation Month

What's Going on in Auto?

  • Digital Dealer

Dr. Garlock's Introduction and Jazz Origin Story
How to Draw Yourself into Jazz Music

  • Funk / Trombone
  • Importance of Live Jazz
  • Dave Brubeck / John Coltrane / Miles Davis
  • Fusion

How Do All Pieces Coalesce into Jazz?

  • First, a Fusion Caveat
  • New Orleans: Walking Groups
    • African-American
  • 1930s: Formulation
  • Peculiar Sounds

Are Music Sheets a Basic Recipe for Jazz?

  • Melody and Chords
  • Make Arrangements / Mores
  • Experiment but Sound Polished

What the CJO (Cleveland Jazz Orchestra) Has Been Up To!

  • Season Series
  • Best Jazz Ever Heard, Best Jazz Never Heard
  • CJO in the City
  • Educational Outreach
  • Instrument Donation

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How many episodes does The KPI Cafe have?

The KPI Cafe currently has 58 episodes available.

What topics does The KPI Cafe cover?

The podcast is about Leisure, Marketing, Leadership, Entrepreneurship, Podcasts, Automotive, Digital Marketing and Business.

What is the most popular episode on The KPI Cafe?

The episode title 'Healthcheck: Getting the Pulse of Automotive Retail w/ Paul J. Daly and Kyle Mountsier' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on The KPI Cafe?

The average episode length on The KPI Cafe is 39 minutes.

How often are episodes of The KPI Cafe released?

Episodes of The KPI Cafe are typically released every 7 days.

When was the first episode of The KPI Cafe?

The first episode of The KPI Cafe was released on Sep 28, 2020.

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