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The Keeper: A Human Rights Podcast - Episode 30: “Women Leading the Way on FoRB” Season – A Conversation with Anila Ali

Episode 30: “Women Leading the Way on FoRB” Season – A Conversation with Anila Ali

03/18/25 • 31 min

The Keeper: A Human Rights Podcast

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Episode 30: “Women Leading the Way on FoRB” Season – A Conversation with Anila Ali

In this episode, Dr. Katrina Lantos Swett speaks with Anila Ali, founder and president of the American Muslim & Multifaith Women’s Empowerment Council (AMMWEC). She is a fearless voice countering and condemning extremism, encouraging religious plurality, taking on taboo subjects, and working to build interfaith alliances around the world. This conversation covers the roots of her advocacy, which trace back to her childhood, and the events that set her on a path of advocating for freedom of religion or belief (FoRB) for all.

About Anila

AMMWEC

Standing Firm Against Hate: A Muslim Perspective on Israel and Hamas (Newsweek)

Voices for Humanity: Muslim Women Unite Against Extremism (Combat Antisemitism Movement)

Q&A With Anila Ali: Empowering the Next Generation of Muslim Peace Builders (Religion Unplugged)

Producers: Brittany Smith, Chelsea Hedquist & Celie Hudson

Audio editors: Brittany Smith & Celie Hudon

Music: Always Hopeful - Silent Partner • Always Hopeful – Silent Partner (No C...

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Episode 30: “Women Leading the Way on FoRB” Season – A Conversation with Anila Ali

In this episode, Dr. Katrina Lantos Swett speaks with Anila Ali, founder and president of the American Muslim & Multifaith Women’s Empowerment Council (AMMWEC). She is a fearless voice countering and condemning extremism, encouraging religious plurality, taking on taboo subjects, and working to build interfaith alliances around the world. This conversation covers the roots of her advocacy, which trace back to her childhood, and the events that set her on a path of advocating for freedom of religion or belief (FoRB) for all.

About Anila

AMMWEC

Standing Firm Against Hate: A Muslim Perspective on Israel and Hamas (Newsweek)

Voices for Humanity: Muslim Women Unite Against Extremism (Combat Antisemitism Movement)

Q&A With Anila Ali: Empowering the Next Generation of Muslim Peace Builders (Religion Unplugged)

Producers: Brittany Smith, Chelsea Hedquist & Celie Hudson

Audio editors: Brittany Smith & Celie Hudon

Music: Always Hopeful - Silent Partner • Always Hopeful – Silent Partner (No C...

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undefined - Episode 29: “Women Leading the Way on FoRB” Season – A Conversation with Ewelina Ochab

Episode 29: “Women Leading the Way on FoRB” Season – A Conversation with Ewelina Ochab

It’s appropriate that we’re releasing the first episode of this season this week, during the fifth annual International Religious Freedom Summit. It’s an incredible gathering of civil society advocates, activists, experts, academics, government leaders, parliamentarians, and more from across the globe – all focused on advancing the fundamental right to freedom of religion, conscience, or belief.

Research shows that when countries protect and advance religious freedom, they tend to be more peaceful, stable, and prosperous. On the flip side, when governments trample on religious freedom, they are almost certain to violate other human rights, as well. With authoritarianism rising around the world, religious freedom is at ever greater risk.

But...there is always hope for a better future. For me, much of that hope is inspired by the amazing women who are leading the movement for greater freedom of religion or belief – or FoRB, as it’s sometimes called in shorthand. These women hail from different backgrounds, different cultures, different faiths, and different perspectives. Yet, they all share an uncommon drive for justice and an unwavering dedication to the conscience rights of all.

We’re kicking off our series of conversations with the women leading the way on FoRB with one of the most brilliant and respected minds in the world of international religious freedom: Dr. Ewelina Ochab. A human rights lawyer, a researcher, an author, an advocate – Ewelina truly does it all. Based in London, but usually traveling to far flung corners of the globe, Ewelina is a programme lawyer with the International Bar Association’s Human Rights Institute, as well as co-founder of the Coalition for Genocide Response. She has studied and written about some of the most egregious cases of religious persecution in the past decades, as well as about genocide prevention and response. It was an honor to speak with her about what inspired her to focus on human rights and persecuted religious minorities, the places in the world that worry her most, and what keeps her motivated to do this work.

International Religious Freedom (IRF) Summit

Dr. Ewelina Ochab

International Bar Association’s Human Rights Institute

Dr. Ewelina Ochab on Forbes

Follow Dr. Ewelina Ochab on X

Producers: Brittany Smith, Chelsea Hedquist & Celie Hudson

Audio editors: Brittany Smith & Celie Hudon

Music: Always Hopeful - Silent Partner • Always Hopeful – Silent Partner (No C...

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Episode 31: “Women Leading the Way on FoRB” Season – A Conversation with Rushan Abbas

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Episode 31: “Women Leading the Way on FoRB” Season – A Conversation with Rushan Abbas

This third episode of our “Women Leading the Way on Freedom of Religion or Belief” season brings you a conversation with Rushan Abbas, one of the most prominent and respected activists for the rights of the Uyghur people. She is founder and executive director of the Campaign for Uyghurs. For decades, she has advocated fearlessly on behalf of Uyghur Muslims – a religious and ethnic minority in China, which has faced brutal repression at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party. Numerous western governments have classified it as genocide, with more than 1 million Uyghurs being held in so-called “reeducation camps.” In reality, these are modern-day concentration camps.

Rushan has been pivotal to raising awareness about the human rights abuses and crimes against humanity being perpetrated against the Uyghurs. Moreover, she has been critical to many of the most effective efforts to push back against China’s brutal repression. She and her staff at the Campaign for Uyghurs were recognized for their vital work when they were nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize in 2022.

However, the recognition for Rushan’s tremendous contribution to the field of human rights and freedom of religion or belief (FoRB) has come with a heavy price. In this episode, Rushan discusses the childhood that shaped her, the American values of freedom and democracy that she embraced when she came to America, and the unjust imprisonment of her sister, Dr. Gulshan Abbas.

Rushan Abbas Bio

Campaign for Uyghurs

Rushan Abbas: Profiles in Freedom (Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation)

Chinese Persecution of the Uyghurs (U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum)

Gulshan Abbas (Defending Freedoms Project)

Producers: Brittany Smith, Chelsea Hedquist & Celie Hudson

Audio editors: Brittany Smith & Celie Hudon

Music: Always Hopeful - Silent Partner • Always Hopeful – Silent Partner (No C...

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