Episode 4: why we should twerk more on fat fryers

In episode 4 Jen talks with work colleague and Tiktok celebrity Blake ( lowqualityblake). We speak about the difficulties of being trans-masc but still enjoying makeup and dresses, exchange stories of pub food, twerking on the fryer and banter in London pubs. Blake shares his love for Linguine in white wine garlic sauce with prawns ( recipe on outbutin.org) and considers gender a system he feels he doesn’t ascribe to. We discuss the difference in cis-gender and gender-non-conforming identity and wonder what it feels like to be the other, we talk underwear, e-boy style and the struggle of trying or not trying to pass and the notion that non-binary expression in clothes really has no rules.