
MI271: The Long Term Debt Cycle & De-Dollarization “Fairytale” Explained w/ Alfonso Peccatiello
05/09/23 • 54 min
Rebecca Hotsko and Alfonso Peccatiello discuss the current market outlook, including the driving force behind the market rally, its sustainability, Alfonso’s prediction of a 0% rate cut by the Fed in 2024, and a whole lot more!
Alfonso Peccatiello is former Head of a $20 billion Investment Portfolio and now is the Founder and author of The Macro Compass, which is an investment strategy firm that provides financial education, macro insights and investment ideas.
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro.
02:05 - His current market outlook, whether this recent market rally is sustainable or not.
10:43 - Why Alfonso expects the Fed to cut rates to 0% in 2024?
22:07 - How the long-term debt cycle works, what are the key factors that drive it over time?
29:27 - Why Alfonso believes we are in the very late stages of the long term debt cycle?
33:41 - What implications does this has economically, and for the financial markets?
34:02 - Will we see a period of deleveraging similar to 2008 and 1929 in the US?
41:11 - The difference between a period of deleveraging and a recession.
50:22 - His thoughts on the trend of de-dollarization, is a US dollar centric world over and are there any possible alternatives to this dollar central world?
54:49 - The Impacts that an economic downturn and de-leveraging would have on a US dollar based global system.
60:09 - Alfonso’s portfolio strategy and investment take-aways given his outlook.
*Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences.
BOOKS AND RESOURCES
- Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members.
- Check out The MacroCompass.
- Check out: The MacroCompass Substack.
- Related Episode: Listen to MI232: Understanding Quantitative Easing w/ Alfonso Peccatiello , or watch the video.
NEW TO THE SHOW?
- Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs.
- Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here.
- Try Kyle’s favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance.
- Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services.
- Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets.
- Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts.
SPONSORS
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Connect with Rebecca: Twitter | Instagram
Email: [email protected]
Connect with Alfonso: Website | Twitter
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Rebecca Hotsko and Alfonso Peccatiello discuss the current market outlook, including the driving force behind the market rally, its sustainability, Alfonso’s prediction of a 0% rate cut by the Fed in 2024, and a whole lot more!
Alfonso Peccatiello is former Head of a $20 billion Investment Portfolio and now is the Founder and author of The Macro Compass, which is an investment strategy firm that provides financial education, macro insights and investment ideas.
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro.
02:05 - His current market outlook, whether this recent market rally is sustainable or not.
10:43 - Why Alfonso expects the Fed to cut rates to 0% in 2024?
22:07 - How the long-term debt cycle works, what are the key factors that drive it over time?
29:27 - Why Alfonso believes we are in the very late stages of the long term debt cycle?
33:41 - What implications does this has economically, and for the financial markets?
34:02 - Will we see a period of deleveraging similar to 2008 and 1929 in the US?
41:11 - The difference between a period of deleveraging and a recession.
50:22 - His thoughts on the trend of de-dollarization, is a US dollar centric world over and are there any possible alternatives to this dollar central world?
54:49 - The Impacts that an economic downturn and de-leveraging would have on a US dollar based global system.
60:09 - Alfonso’s portfolio strategy and investment take-aways given his outlook.
*Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences.
BOOKS AND RESOURCES
- Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members.
- Check out The MacroCompass.
- Check out: The MacroCompass Substack.
- Related Episode: Listen to MI232: Understanding Quantitative Easing w/ Alfonso Peccatiello , or watch the video.
NEW TO THE SHOW?
- Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs.
- Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here.
- Try Kyle’s favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance.
- Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services.
- Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets.
- Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts.
SPONSORS
Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors:
Connect with Rebecca: Twitter | Instagram
Email: [email protected]
Connect with Alfonso: Website | Twitter
Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm
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And much, much more!
*Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences.
BOOKS AND RESOURCES
- Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members.
- The War of Art by Stephen Pressfield.
- Gates of Fire Stephen Pressfield.
- The Lean Startup by Eric Ries.
- Good to Great by Jim Collins.
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IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:
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31:37 - Actionable methods in which you can start increasing your income.
And much, much more!
*Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences.
BOOKS AND RESOURCES
- Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members.
- Get 5 free chapters of Derrick’s new book, Good Money Revolution.
- Check out Derrick’s book.
- Related episode: Listen to MI080: To Be A Successful Investor, You Need A Budget W/ Jesse Mecham, or watch the video.
- Related episode: Listen to MI131: Richer, Wiser, Happier w/ William Green, or watch the video.
NEW TO THE SHOW?
- Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs.
- Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here.
- Try Kyle’s favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance.
- Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services.
- Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets.
- Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts.
SPONSORS
Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors:
Connect with Derrick: Website | Instagram
Connect with Clay: Twitter
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