
The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast
Lillian Skinner
A podcast dedicated to comprehending and cultivating the creative genius found only in Gifted Neurodivergence (ND).
The time has come to finally take back the narrative of what being neurodivergent really is. Neurodivergence is creative intelligence.
In this podcast we will explore the truth about what it means to be live in a system that resists cultivating differences. We will explore how we can cultivate our giftedness outside of the system. We will explore how new technology (such as AI) and new science is presenting new opportunities and places for us to create. We will discuss what a healthy and cultivated ND life looks and how much our society misunderstands the unique gifts and experiences of neurodivergents.
The goal is to create a safe place where amazing outliers can share their gifts, learn about themselves, learn about others like them, find themselves and join a community where they belong.
Contact us at [email protected] or go to www.giftednd.com to learn more and join the community.
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Interview with a Creative Writer - Joanna Acevado
The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast
11/16/23 • 38 min
Until AI became mainstream this year, I had to rely heavily on writing coaches. Why? Because my brain operates differently, making it challenging to pinpoint the best perspective form the multitude my brain offers simultaneously each time I attempt to communicate through writing.
My spatially gifted savant brains has one gift. The gift of perspective taking, so much so it is nearly always overwhelming me. I can see things from the viewpoints of everyone I've met—understand their thoughts, navigate their worlds through various lenses like professions, historical periods, talents, neurodiversity, and sexual identity. When emotions merge with these perspectives, it exponentially expands the ways I perceive how different brains influence thoughts and actions.
I'm certain I'm not the only creative or neurodivergent thinker capable of this. My also children possess this skill. It drives their exceptional self-learning ability. I recommend that fellow neurodivergents struggling with this seek guidance from coaches to navigate their learning journey. Even neurotypicals probably should consider this too.
Frankly, the one-size-fits-all approach to learning is terrible. It's not genuine learning; it's conditioning. My struggle with schooling wasn't about learning—it was having so many perspectives when we are only allowed to have one, their chosen one. This forced me into to self-teach everything I desired or needed to know. The issue lies in systems built upon the assumption that there are only two answers to every question. It's astonishing how people claim autistics have they are simply reacting to the very clear black-and-white thinking enforced by our systems and hierarchies. Which offer only a 1 right and all others wrong option for understanding. Especially if you are someone with heightened senses who is very aware there's so more complexity.
Among the coaches I worked with, Joanna stood out. She didn't dictate how I should write; instead, she allowed me to explore how she approached it. I learned from her that a creative's highs, lows, or overexcitabilities serve as intrinsic guides, providing the energy and perspective necessary to convey the intended message.
This podcast is the first of two focusing on overexcitabilities and their link to the development of our outside genius. This episode is an interview, while the second delves into how overexcitabilities can serve as a direct measure of intelligence, nurturing the various perspectives forming the bedrock of our creative intellect.
Contact Joanna at www.JoannaAcevado.net
Got Questions? I got answers, thanks to so many perspectives, reach out to me at [email protected].
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Triangular Learning and Thinking Drives Our Creative Intelligence
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10/30/23 • 32 min
In this episode, I delve into the concept of Creative Intelligence. Our current educational systems predominantly emphasize a linear approach to learning and thinking. However, individuals with gifted neurodivergence leverage their sensing intelligence to branch out from the linear learning path and subsequently connect these branches back to the main path, thus fostering novel thinking. This phenomenon is what we refer to as creative intelligence.
Unfortunately, creative intelligence is not effectively nurtured within our existing educational systems. These systems are structured in a way that inhibits the development of sensing intelligence. Students are often confined to dull classrooms, instructed to keep their hands in their laps and maintain a forward-facing posture. Moreover, the teaching pace is typically slow and lacks the flexibility to accommodate individualized learning or in-depth exploration. Subjects are taught in isolation, devoid of their broader context, resulting in a significant reduction in the student's cognitive potential. Consequently, students tend to become mere tools for their teachers or employers, gradually losing their capacity for autonomy and the ability to forge their unique path in the world.
By exploring the interconnected facets of our knowledge through the triangle links of understanding, we can unlock innovative concepts that have the potential to reshape the world.
In this episode I reference the following articles:
https://www.sophiainstitute.us/blog/thinking-feeling-and-willing-the-threefold-human-being
https://nowiknow.com/why-texas-may-decide-what-your-child-learns/
https://www.city-journal.org/article/west-virginia-universitys-crisis-is-just-the-beginning
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How Overexcitabilites Foster Gifted Knowing
The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast
11/24/23 • 33 min
This episode will offer you an entirely new perspective on the value and purpose of our overexcitabilities.
While many are familiar with Dabrowski's Positive Disintegration Theory and its associated overexcitabilities, the way it is commonly presented lacks practical relevance for individuals living with high overexcitabilities.
I have found the research on overexcitabilities to be deficient, describing them from an external standpoint and treating them as almost optional. This mischaracterization overlooks their true nature and the significant role they play in contributing to our giftedness. Understanding our overexcitabilities is key to unlocking and maximizing our gifted potential. It allows us to comprehend how heightened sensitivity generates more inputs, and our overexcitabilities process these inputs to cultivate knowledge.
I have yet to encounter any representation that captures the experience of being a gifted neurodivergent individual as I have lived it. It is evident to me that there is a distinct purpose behind how my sensitivity and overexcitabilities function and how they drive my gifted knowing, and I can't fathom why this insight is not more widely available.
I strongly believe that suppressing our overexcitabilities is a root cause of many mental illnesses and chronic conditions prevalent in our society, as well as a reason why genius seems to be missing. I think we have built a myth around giftedness and how it works. I did not choose to positively disintegrate but was rather compelled towards positive disintegration as a matter of survival.
I delve into how heightened sensitivity-driven giftedness provides us with unique perspectives that will fuel the development of humanity with the latest versions of CHAT GPT 4/5. I also express concerns about the potential misuse of this technology by individuals without good intentions.
Questions? email me at [email protected] or check out our website at www.giftednd.com
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Even "Normal" Is Now Dysfunctional
The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast
10/19/23 • 24 min
We have come full circle. I have been saying that the creatives will be the future for a while. Every day, I see more people joining me in this perspective. To the extent that even 'normal' is being questioned in how it navigates the world. 'Normal' is being called dysfunctional in some situations. But if 'normal' is now considered dysfunctional, what is 'functional'? What criteria are they using to distinguish good functioning from bad functioning?
Perhaps that is the wrong question. Maybe I should be asking whether there ever was one and, if so, what was it?
It appears the focus on deficits is increasing. No one seems to have a clear message on how to address it. There is just an abundance of information on how not to address it.
This is a positive development for the spatially gifted because there is a void emerging regarding what steps to take next and who to follow. Everyone is realizing that there might not be a leader who knows what to do as things deteriorate. I believe we are those leaders, and we should step up to this opportunity to lead. We understand what struggle feels like. We comprehend how challenging it is to function in an environment that is working against us. We are the most sensitive, which means we are the most prepared."
I reference the following articles in the podcast.
https://www.okdoomer.io/its-not-cool-to-overreact/
https://www.okdoomer.io/sure-covid-can-kill-you-but-have-you-ever-taken-a-hot-shower/
https://www.okdoomer.io/youre-not-a-fearmonger-you-have-sentinel-intelligence/
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Interview with An Economics Forecaster - Tuomas Malinen
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06/12/24 • 60 min
This episode of the Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast explores the unique intersection of emotional intelligence and foresight with guest Tuomas Malinen, an economics forecaster.
The conversation delves into the profound impact of emotions on cognitive processing and the power of neurodivergent perspectives in navigating a rapidly changing world. Tuomas shares his personal journey through harm OCD and meditation, revealing how deep emotional processing can transform chaos into clarity and kindness. The episode emphasizes the importance of recognizing and utilizing our full spectrum of intelligence—cognitive, somatic, and emotional—to foster creativity, resilience, and positive change.
00:00 Introduction to the Gifted Podcast
00:20 Meet Tuomas Malinen: Economist and Forecaster
00:58 Tuomas' Background and Career Journey
01:37 Understanding Forecasting and Geopolitical Insights
02:29 The Role of Neurodivergence in Foresight
04:14 Meditation and Intuition in Overcoming OCD
06:06 Parenting Prodigies and Systemic Challenges
11:35 The Hero's Journey and Masculinity
17:58 Embracing Emotions and Somatic Intelligence
25:08 Navigating Relationships and Personal Boundaries
30:29 Emotional Resilience and Genius
31:27 The Power of Emotional Processing
33:25 Violence and Kindness: A Personal Journey
35:16 Childhood Trauma and Cognitive Growth
36:50 Navigating Emotions and Sensitivity
47:21 Forecasting and Future Scenarios
50:23 The Power of Individual Action
53:40 Creativity and Community Building
01:00:11 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
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Changing What We Value As Intelligence : Infracognition
The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast
08/03/24 • 24 min
This episode of the Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast introduces the concept of infracognition, a form of cognition that involves understanding and using emotions alongside traditional thought processes. It is contrasted with metacognition, or thinking about thinking. Infracognition is oppressed in our current educational systems, which favor linear, factual learning. But that infracognition is more suitable for our change we face in the near future. Infracognition will provide the skills we need to work best with AI.
This podcast illustrates how our systems are failing all students using a comparison between two types of students, Emily and Alex. Highlighting how what we value is the wrong type of intelligence. Infracognition is the intelligence our children need to prepare them for the future. Not just neurodivergent children but all children. Lillian emphasizes the need for an educational paradigm shift to adapt to rapid societal changes and the role of infracognition in fostering true understanding and mental health. She concludes with a call for educational reforms that respect and utilize both metacognitive and infracognitive abilities.
To access supplemental information covered in this podcast please visit the Gifted ND Website at:
https://www.giftednd.com/post/the-educational-system-and-twice-exceptional-2e-learners-a-comparative-analysis-of-infracognition-1
or
https://www.giftednd.com/blog/categories/research-papers
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Degrowth Is Our Answer
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08/15/24 • 43 min
In this episode of The Gifted Podcast we dive into the concept of degrowth with special guest Matt Orsagh, the author of the newsletter 'Degrowth is the Answer.' Matt shares his personal journey, from obtaining degrees in English, film, and finance, to advocating for a shift away from GDP-focused growth.
We discuss the environmental and societal benefits of a wellbeing-based economy, touching on issues like universal basic income, shorter work weeks, and sustainable living. Matt also highlights the importance of building community and living within planetary boundaries to ensure a better future for upcoming generations.
00:00 Introduction to the Gifted Podcast
00:22 Meet Matt Orsagh: Author of The Newsletter 'Degrowth is the Answer'.
00:45 Matt's Journey: From Finance to Degrowth
03:48 Understanding Degrowth and Its Importance
04:38 The Concept of Planetary Boundaries
06:54 Degrowth in Practice: Work, Income, and Community
16:33 Challenges and Benefits of a Wellbeing Economy
21:58 Future Perspectives on Economic Systems
22:48 The Changing Attitudes Towards Capitalism
23:26 Generational Shift in Political Power
24:38 Critique of American Individualism
26:22 The Role of Advertising in Consumerism
27:13 Discovering Degrowth
29:12 Historical Context of Environmental Awareness
33:27 Future Challenges and Adaptations
36:43 The Importance of Community and Communication
40:10 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Seek Unified Intelligence, Find Creative Genius
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05/29/24 • 21 min
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In this podcast we explore unified intelligence as the connection between the somatic and the cognitive that drives the genius found in twice-exceptional individuals. We discuss how unified intelligence is crucial for accessing creative genius. We emphasizes the importance of cultivating this intelligence to achieve our full potential and challenges the traditional separation of mind and body. Drawing on historical perspectives and personal experiences, I advocates for a new approach in education and mental health that recognizes and nurtures this unified intelligence. Tune in to learn more about how this holistic way of thinking could pave the path to future innovations and creative breakthroughs.
00:00 Introduction to the Gifted Podcast
01:22 Understanding Unified Intelligence
01:45 The Importance of Unified Intelligence
02:21 Personal Experiences with Unified Intelligence
03:07 Historical Context and Misconceptions
04:11 Challenges Faced by Twice Exceptional Individuals
07:35 The Role of Compassionate Empathy
15:34 Unified Intelligence in Historical Figures
17:03 The Impact of Trauma on Unified Intelligence
19:39 The Need for Systemic Change
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Cultivating the Gifted Neurodivergent (2e) Child
The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast
09/25/23 • 47 min
This episode is the first of a new series dedicated to understanding and cultivating children with gifted neurodivergence. Two mothers, (Lillian Skinner and Beth Anne Johnson) in different stages of raising their children, discuss how they navigate and raise their gifted neurodivergent children to succeed now and in the future. While living a society that needs the unique spatial gifts of the gifted neurodivergent but has not tried to cultivate or understand them.
If you enjoyed the podcast check out our new podcast dedicated covering how we are raising gifted neurodivergent children and growing ourselves in the process.
https://giftedndchildpodcast.buzzsprout.com
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Is Obesity Driven By Neurodivergence?
The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast
01/20/24 • 41 min
I believe the obesity epidemic signifies a sensitivity to the schedules imposed by our systems on everyone. Obesity, in my view, is a consequence of the struggle to conform to increasingly restrictive and demanding systems, coupled with a diminishing nutritional quality in our food supply. The choices we make regarding nutrition are driven by the need for increasing dopamine rewards, which, in the short term, help us adhere to our schedules.
Obesity rates are on the rise across all Western societies. While it was initially observed in the most sensitive individuals, it now appears that either sensitivity is increasing or our societal systems breaking down are pushing everyone into a situation where fitting into the schedules we first learn in school is no longer feasible. I am concerned that as our society approaches its end, we may find few individuals healthy enough to bring about the necessary changes for a successful transition.
The research landscape in this area is still evolving, and recent insights suggest that others are also discovering connections between neurodivergence and obesity. You can explore this in the following supporting papers.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9775563/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7551752/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6356459/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10519741/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7335278/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8775294/
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fped.2020.535705/full
The ongoing journey to comprehend the intricate interplay between higher cognition, neurodivergence, and obesity has given rise to another theory.
One I am asking for your feedback on. Do you find this to be true for you? Please let me know at [email protected].
In neurotypicals the cognitively mind breaks before the body does. This is the purpose of boot camp. To break the mind and build it back as a no thinking enlisted body for war. (NT)
In neurodivergents the sensing body breaks before the mind does. This is what college is for. It breaks our body to make it a slave to the needs of the mind. (ND)
In the 2e, those of us with both high sensing and cognitive intelligence, there is a constant battle for resources between the two. For us the emotions and intellect must connect for us to be mentally and physically healthy.
For the 2e it is mental agony to have them separate and everything in our society insists they be separated. This only serves the powerful not the individual or the society. Separation manifests illness in both mind and body. But when your emotions and intellect connected your syndromes, your sensitivity and your highly aware neurodivergent brain functioning help you find your optimum fun
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How many episodes does The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast have?
The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast currently has 56 episodes available.
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The podcast is about Learning, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health, Bipolar, Podcasts, Adhd, Neurodiversity, Autism, Dyslexia and Philosophy.
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The episode title '2e High Somatic Giftedness - Author Ethan R. Gibson' is the most popular.
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The average episode length on The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast is 36 minutes.
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Episodes of The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast are typically released every 8 days, 22 hours.
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The first episode of The Gifted Neurodivergent Podcast was released on Mar 5, 2023.
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