Huntabil.IT’s Raymond Schippers on scaling IR during Canva’s hypergrowth
05/13/25 • 48 min
In this week’s episode of The Future of Security Operations podcast, Thomas is joined by Raymond Schippers. With 15 years of experience leading detection and response teams, Raymond is a seasoned security leader with high-impact roles at Check Point and Canva under his belt. He recently became co-founder of Huntabil.IT, a Melbourne-based company providing organizations with tailored advisory services to align with their unique threat landscapes and business goals.
In this episode:
[02:27] Landing his first security internship at Siemens as a teenager
[03:18] Reflecting on some state-sponsored attacks he encountered while working IR at Check Point
[04:45] Working with government partners to attribute and dismantle APTs
[08:10] The challenges of remediating threats for anonymized customers
[09:30] What inspired Raymond’s move from Check Point to Canva
[10:35] Building Canva’s blue team during the company’s phase of hypergrowth
[12:40] Rethinking the interview process to prioritize diversity in hiring
[18:02] Proven strategies for reducing burnout and alert fatigue in IR
[21:09] How Raymond's team used automation to scale security operations at Canva
[23:16] The state of AI in security - and its most effective use cases
[28:53] What inspired Raymond to found Huntabil.IT
[31:09] Raymond’s approach to working with non-profit organizations
[39:15] The under-reported threats that could reshape the future of SecOps
[44:06] Anticipating the biggest challenges security teams will face over the next five years
[46:42] Connect with Raymond
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In this week’s episode of The Future of Security Operations podcast, Thomas is joined by Raymond Schippers. With 15 years of experience leading detection and response teams, Raymond is a seasoned security leader with high-impact roles at Check Point and Canva under his belt. He recently became co-founder of Huntabil.IT, a Melbourne-based company providing organizations with tailored advisory services to align with their unique threat landscapes and business goals.
In this episode:
[02:27] Landing his first security internship at Siemens as a teenager
[03:18] Reflecting on some state-sponsored attacks he encountered while working IR at Check Point
[04:45] Working with government partners to attribute and dismantle APTs
[08:10] The challenges of remediating threats for anonymized customers
[09:30] What inspired Raymond’s move from Check Point to Canva
[10:35] Building Canva’s blue team during the company’s phase of hypergrowth
[12:40] Rethinking the interview process to prioritize diversity in hiring
[18:02] Proven strategies for reducing burnout and alert fatigue in IR
[21:09] How Raymond's team used automation to scale security operations at Canva
[23:16] The state of AI in security - and its most effective use cases
[28:53] What inspired Raymond to found Huntabil.IT
[31:09] Raymond’s approach to working with non-profit organizations
[39:15] The under-reported threats that could reshape the future of SecOps
[44:06] Anticipating the biggest challenges security teams will face over the next five years
[46:42] Connect with Raymond
Where to find Raymond Schippers:
Where to find Thomas Kinsella:
Resources mentioned:
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[06:25] Why security teams are still fighting the same battles they were 15 years ago
[09:24] How Dane’s vendor-side threat intel work shapes his thinking as a SecOps leader
[12:00] What’s working - and what’s not - about how companies approach threat intelligence today
[12:51] Why threat intel should be an in-house function, not just a reporting feed
[15:30] What motivated Dane to move into the finance and crypto industry
[19:30] How parenthood reshaped the way Dane thinks about risk
[22:50] Tips for encouraging employees to report their security concerns
[26:00] What a great security-vendor customer experience look like - and what too many vendors get wrong
[29:10] The security tools and solutions Dane is most excited about right now
[32:45] Balancing the hype and potential of security copilots
[38:30] What cyberattacks might look like five years from now
[41:30] Connect with Dane
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[03:20] Working in “the Major Leagues of cyber” at the National Nuclear Security Administration
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[07:10] Securing the world’s fastest supercomputer at Oak Ridge National Laboratory
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[18:15] How RegScale acquired its first high-profile clients through "hustle and luck"
[19:20] The challenges of building the first version of RegScale
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[23:20] The biggest GRC roadblocks teams are facing right now
[25:10] Practical advice for moving the needle on your automation program
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[38:40] What SecOps and compliance teams might look like in the future
[40:20] What the best compliance teams do to build rapport with security, IT and other business functions
[43:30] Why AI adoption is a risk-based conversation every organization should be having with their CISO
[46:00] Connect with Travis
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