The Fourth Way

• A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!
• Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/
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• The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/
• Video on Benjamin Lay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv3v9m6PY6c
• Fearless Benjamin Lay: https://www.amazon.com/Fearless-Benjamin-Lay-Revolutionary-Abolitionist/dp/0807060984/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+fearless+benjamin+lay&qid=1605836939&sr=8-1
• All Slavekeepers Apostates: https://www.amazon.com/Slave-Keepers-That-Innocent-Bondage-Apostates-ebook/dp/B088Q5GH7P/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=all+slavekeepers+apostates&qid=1605836920&sr=8-1
• Wilberforce Prolonged Slavery: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/aug/03/wilberforce-slavery-sierra-leone
• Noll on the Civil War: https://www.amazon.com/Theological-Crisis-Steven-Janice-Lectures/dp/1469621819/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=mark+noll+civil+war&qid=1605836883&sr=8-1
• John Woolman: https://metrovoicenews.com/john-woolman-the-conscientious-quaker-who-paved-the-way-for-abolition/
• Britain paid on debt to slave owners through 2015: https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Britains-Loan-toPay-Off-Slave-Owners-Not-Repaid-Until-2015-20180223-0016.html#:~:text=Her%20Majesty%27s%20Treasury%20recently%20revealed%20that%20British%20taxpayers,that%20were%20formerly%20part%20of%20the%20British%20empire.
• A little more background on Lay and the Colonies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FALMgWNCXjI
• Conceived in Liberty Volumes 1-4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/1933550988/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_1XW48KH6KFJ1TFTDRVNP
• NonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1
• Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/
• New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/
• Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305
• Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1
• Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1
• Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1
• Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_noss
• Erica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logo

• Laverne Miller
• Jesse Killion

I explore the wayward church in regard to its handling of the AIDS crisis and the gay community.

0:00 - Introduction/Preliminaries
12:15 - LGBTQ History
29:10 - Church History
33:00 - The Wayward Church
39:45 - Conversion Therapy and Objectification
48:15 - Medical Propaganda
51:00 - Rage Against the Deus Ex Machina

• A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!
• Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/
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• Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/
• My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot
• Propaganda Season Outline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xa4MhYMAg2Ohc5Nvya4g9MHxXWlxo6haT2Nj8Hlws8M/edit?usp=sharing
• Episode Outline/Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PYqPQbfzDHZJ4p9NnoL2_ztKXYrSJFltxyMaYiIq9ME/edit?usp=sharing
• Manipulating the Masses: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53232641
• Ted Karpf Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV-kmP1Gv3E
• Josephus Daniels: https://blogs.lib.unc.edu/ncm/2016/10/27/30619/
• Atascadero's Dachau for Queers: https://www.kqed.org/news/11917624/how-a-young-gay-man-survived-one-of-the-darkest-eras-in-california-queer-history
• Alfred Kinsey's Report: https://erlc.com/resource-library/articles/alfred-kinsey-a-brief-summary-and-critique/
• Stonewall: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/98480.Stonewall
• Mattachine Society: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattachine_Society
• Reagan on AIDS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAzDn7tE1lU
• Lester Kinsloving: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/lester-kinsolving-episcopal-priest-and-pesky-white-house-questioner-dies-at-90/2018/12/08/5f5eff46-fb02-11e8-8d64-4e79db33382f_story.html
• Patient Zero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JamdVea2_wE
• Patient Zero Book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34524753-patient-zero-and-the-making-of-the-aids-epidemic
• After the Wrath of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV-kmP1Gv3E
• Transorbital Lobotomy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b39DW7KiNJU
• Kruse's "One Nation Under God:" https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22928900-one-nation-under-god?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=xTnb5Q8AkG&rank=1
• Radio Free Dixie: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/448669.Radio_Free_Dixie?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=CXUK3NRvRb&rank=1
• King's Chapel and King's Court: https://www.religion-online.org/article/the-kings-chapel-and-the-kings-court/
• Epistle to Diognetus: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0101.htm
• Episode - Christians are the Soul of the World: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/draft-christians-are-the-soul-of-the-world
• Early Church and Plagues: https://banneroftruth.org/us/resources/articles/2020/plagues-throughout-christian-history-and-some-christian-responses/
• Hannah Nation Interview: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/115-s7e12-interview-hanna-nation-what-wang-yi-can-teach-us
• Lead Like it Matters to God: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55272502-lead-like-it-matters-to-god?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=pvzBS1KlbZ&rank=4
• Still Time to Care: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56097388-still-time-to-care?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=cdRk7I37L4&rank=1
• Yarhouse's "Homosexuality and the Christian": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8646554-homosexuality-and-the-christian?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=8ZI2PjR8QR&rank=3
• Augustine's "On Lying": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21112707-on-lying?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=PHkSipGCOi&rank=1

• Laverne Miller
• Jesse Killion

• A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!
• Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/
• Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751
• Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/
• The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/
• The Fire Next Time - There is a sadly beautiful part in this work where Baldwin talks about black submissiveness and gentleness and asks how that can be good, or how being like Christ in that way gives him hope of heaven. "What, is heaven just another ghetto then?" Baldwin asks. With this episode, as with "His Stripes and Our Stripes," I don't at all intend to minimize suffering or support the continuing subordination of oppressed groups. Rather, my hope is that this podcast will help you to see that 1) nonviolence is not passive, but active, 2) living one's true self, like the perfect human Jesus Christ, is actually freeing, and 3) our call to Christian living is grounded in the hope of Jesus, not in circumstances, and therefore it is objective and permanent, not fickle and shifting: https://www.amazon.com/Live-Not-Lies-Christian-Dissidents/dp/0593087399/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1612546493&sr=8-1
• Baucham sermon (I couldn't find the sermon link, but will have his quote at the bottom):
• My Post "Is the Gospel Enough?": https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/is-the-gospel-enough
• Bearing Our Crosses: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/bearing-our-crosses
• The Heavenly Multitude: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/the-heavenly-multitude
• Economic Pornography and Pet Sins: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/economic-pornography-and-pet-sins
• Western Wealth Through the Bible's Eyes: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/western-wealth-through-the-bibles-eyes
• The Comfortable, White Evangelical: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/the-comfortable-white-evangelical
• CT Article: https://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2020/june/reflections-from-christian-scholar-on-social-justice-critic.html
• NT Wright The Day The Revolution Began: https://www.amazon.com/Day-Revolution-Began-Reconsidering-Crucifixion/dp/0062334395/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=The+Day+the+Revolution+Began&qid=1606930592&sr=8-1
• One Orthodox thought on politics at 30 minute mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDuXFLJkDt0&feature=youtu.be
• Reading While Black: https://www.amazon.com/Reading-While-Black-American-Interpretation/dp/083085486X/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=reading+while+black&qid=1606930574&sr=8-1
• Icons of Christ: https://www.amazon.com/Icons-Christ-Biblical-Systematic-Ordination/dp/1481313185/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=icons+of+christ&qid=1606930619&sr=8-1CRT Legislation Episode

Voddie Baucham Quote:

It is so disheartening to see so many pastors and Christians lose
their religion and exchange it for Social Justice. Pastors marching
with protestors who are members of BLM and marching with Christians
for Social Justice. But then again, it is not that surprising when we
understand that the Bible warns us that many will be seduced by false
teaching and godless ideologies. The Bible is no longer the standard
for many Christians. Social Justice is now the new standard.
Christians and pastors are marching and protesting the murder of
George Floyd hand in hand with god-haters? Christians and Pastors,
who have Bibles are doing this. Why? Do they really care about
justice? Or have they bought into the false narrative that is being
pushed by Social Justice Warriors who place people into groups of the
oppressors and the oppressed?

The Social Justice Movement's answer for sin is redistribution of...

• A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/
• Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751
• “Men Against Fire”: https://www.amazon.com/Men-Against-Fire-Problem-Command-ebook/dp/B00A8I385I/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=s.l.a.+marshall&qid=1564776265&s=gateway&sr=8-1
• “On Killing”: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/B0056NVXXO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=on+killing&qid=1564776301&s=gateway&sr=8-3
• Killing from the Inside Out: Moral Injury and Just War: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Inside-Out-Moral-Injury-ebook/dp/B00NVN93EM/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=killing+from+the+inside+out&qid=1568229887&s=gateway&sr=8-1
• Is Just War Theory sustainable or idealistic (Hauerwas): https://www.abc.net.au/religion/just-how-realistic-is-just-war-theory-the-case-for-christian-rea/10099656
• The Sacrifices of War and the Sacrifice of Christ (Hauerwas): https://www.abc.net.au/religion/the-sacrifices-of-war-and-the-sacrifice-of-christ/10098368
• You Say You Want a Revolution: https://web.archive.org/web/20170320235417/http://udquickly.udayton.edu/2012/01/you-say-you-want-a-revolution/
• “Why Civil Resistance Works” research: http://cup.columbia.edu/book/why-civil-resistance-works/9780231156820
• TED Talk discussing the conclusions of "Why Civil Resistance Works”: https://www.scienceofnonviolence.org/
• The many works of Gene Sharp: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=gene+sharp&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
• Anatomy of a Hybrid (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802816150/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• Anatomy of a Hybrid (html and can print as PDF) if you can’t find on Amazon: https://www.gospeltruth.net/verduin/hybrid.htm
• Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History on torture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oRv4NZzBKw
• Historical reflections on Human intuition not to kill: https://youtu.be/zViyZGmBhvs
• Drugs in the Military: https://www.nextgov.com/cio-briefing/2011/01/militarys-drug-policy-threatens-troops-health-doctors-say/48321/
• Broken Warrior Series on Military Health Issues: https://web.archive.org/web/20110818222307/https://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20110121_4378.php/
• Is Nonviolence Naive (Answering Questions Against Nonviolence): https://sojo.net/magazine/july-2018/nonviolence-naive

*I have learned a lot about David Grossman since recording this episode. While I don't know that his character necessarily compromises any of the information presented here, I would avoid using him as a resource in the future as that could prove difficult for some to accept. The information in this episode doesn't particularly concern me as I've seen much of the evidence presented from other sources. That being said, you may want to do more research on Grossman and more looking into the information. A fun podcast to listen to about him can be found below, though you should be warned that the language is pretty explicit.