
Dennis Bron, VP of Growth, Mynd
02/17/21 • 62 min
Hello and welcome to the Fourth Act podcast. In this podcast we talk to entrepreneurs and intrapreneurs introducing technology-led innovation in industries that deeply touch every day human life. These industries include financial services, healthcare, real estate, education, retail, and sports and entertainment.
In this episode we talk to Dennis Bron, VP of Growth at Mynd, a Bay Area based Real Estate tech company. When this podcast was recorded (late last year), Dennis was with Better - another real-estate focused tech company, that was ranked by LinkedIn as the fastest growing US startup in 2020. Prior to Better Dennis was with Shift, another Bay Area based startup, that pioneered technology led innovation in the secondary car sale market. At this point, Dennis has become a bit of an expert at accelerating growth in industries that have traditionally seen very limited digital-led innovation.
The podcast covers a lot of ground including:
- Career switching from the rarefied world of top tier consulting at McKinsey to the rarefield world of working at some of the worlds fastest growing startups
- What makes McKinsey a special company to work for
- Dennis’ experience in helping set the foundation for Shift to scale - Shift IPOed in October 2020 via a SPAC offering
- Different approaches to digital transformation and why it’s so hard to digitally transform a large corporation
- The changes in the mortgage industry (Better is an online mortgage origination company) from the financial crisis of 2008/09 through to today
- Transparency provided by Shift and Better relative to their brick and mortar counterparts
- Criticality of location for startups going forward, particularly as we move to more industry-specific startups and global startup hubs emerge
- Changing aspirations of folks graduating from college today (tech) to those that were graduating 15-20 years ago (banking and consulting)
- Dennis’ evolving views on the future of work, in particular remote work
Dennis also recommends this classic book — Robert Pirsig's Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
This podcast is hosted by Sadeq Ali, co-founder of Archimydes. Archimydes is building a new OS for software development work, wether executed internally with your own resources or through external resources.
You can follow Sadeq on:
1) Twitter: twitter.com/sahilz79
2) LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mohamedsali/
3) Clubhouse: sahilz79
You can follow Archimydes on:
1) Twitter: twitter.com/archimydes
2) LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/archimydes
This podcast is hosted by Sadeq Ali, co-founder of Archimydes, a curated global Software Engineering Guild.
If you are are interested in joining the Guild then please head to www.archimydes.dev/Guild. If you are interested in working with the Guilds talent please head to www.archimydes.dev.
Hello and welcome to the Fourth Act podcast. In this podcast we talk to entrepreneurs and intrapreneurs introducing technology-led innovation in industries that deeply touch every day human life. These industries include financial services, healthcare, real estate, education, retail, and sports and entertainment.
In this episode we talk to Dennis Bron, VP of Growth at Mynd, a Bay Area based Real Estate tech company. When this podcast was recorded (late last year), Dennis was with Better - another real-estate focused tech company, that was ranked by LinkedIn as the fastest growing US startup in 2020. Prior to Better Dennis was with Shift, another Bay Area based startup, that pioneered technology led innovation in the secondary car sale market. At this point, Dennis has become a bit of an expert at accelerating growth in industries that have traditionally seen very limited digital-led innovation.
The podcast covers a lot of ground including:
- Career switching from the rarefied world of top tier consulting at McKinsey to the rarefield world of working at some of the worlds fastest growing startups
- What makes McKinsey a special company to work for
- Dennis’ experience in helping set the foundation for Shift to scale - Shift IPOed in October 2020 via a SPAC offering
- Different approaches to digital transformation and why it’s so hard to digitally transform a large corporation
- The changes in the mortgage industry (Better is an online mortgage origination company) from the financial crisis of 2008/09 through to today
- Transparency provided by Shift and Better relative to their brick and mortar counterparts
- Criticality of location for startups going forward, particularly as we move to more industry-specific startups and global startup hubs emerge
- Changing aspirations of folks graduating from college today (tech) to those that were graduating 15-20 years ago (banking and consulting)
- Dennis’ evolving views on the future of work, in particular remote work
Dennis also recommends this classic book — Robert Pirsig's Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
This podcast is hosted by Sadeq Ali, co-founder of Archimydes. Archimydes is building a new OS for software development work, wether executed internally with your own resources or through external resources.
You can follow Sadeq on:
1) Twitter: twitter.com/sahilz79
2) LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mohamedsali/
3) Clubhouse: sahilz79
You can follow Archimydes on:
1) Twitter: twitter.com/archimydes
2) LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/archimydes
This podcast is hosted by Sadeq Ali, co-founder of Archimydes, a curated global Software Engineering Guild.
If you are are interested in joining the Guild then please head to www.archimydes.dev/Guild. If you are interested in working with the Guilds talent please head to www.archimydes.dev.
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Adam Winter, CTO, Clarus R+D
Hello and welcome to the Fourth Act podcast. This podcast is focused on topics at the intersect of the future of work, innovation, and software development.
Adam Winter is the CTO Clarus R+D and an Angel Investor based out of the US mid-West. Adam's company, Clarus R+D helps businesses easily obtain tax R&D credits for any software development or product development work done in the US. The podcast covers a lot of ground including:
- Scenarios in which you can obtain tax credits for your software/product development work
- When does it make sense for a startup to apply for the credits
- What kind of expenses can be applied towards tax R&D credits and how this changes as employees start working remotely
- How Clarus got started and what their definition of an MVP was (an Excel spreadsheet to start with)
- How he thinks about his role as an engineering leader vs. as an angel investor
- Starting a company in the mid-West vs. the coasts
- What software engineers should learn as they look at growing their careers
- Remote work and its impact on the future of work
Adam also recommended two classic books:
- Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People
- Andrew Hunt & David Thomas's The Pragmatic Programmer: From Journeyman to Master
This podcast is hosted by Sadeq Ali, co-founder of Archimydes. Archimydes is building a new OS for software development work, wether executed internally with your own resources or through external resources.
You can follow Sadeq on:
1) Twitter: twitter.com/sahilz79
2) LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mohamedsali/
You can follow Archimydes on:
1) Twitter: twitter.com/archimydes
2) LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/archimydes
This podcast is hosted by Sadeq Ali, co-founder of Archimydes, a curated global Software Engineering Guild.
If you are are interested in joining the Guild then please head to www.archimydes.dev/Guild. If you are interested in working with the Guilds talent please head to www.archimydes.dev.
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Jason Saltzman, Co-Founder & CEO, Relief
Hello and welcome to the Fourth Act podcast. In this podcast we talk to entrepreneurs and intrapreneurs introducing technology-led innovation in industries that deeply touch every day human life. These industries include financial services, healthcare, real estate, education, retail, and sports and entertainment.
In this episode we talk to Jason Saltzman, the CEO of Relief App. The app helps people in debt obtain debt relief for free and in a user-friendly manner. The company is backed by $17 million in funding from multiple strategic investors such as American Express, City Group, Innerplay, Animal Capital etc.
Jason is also the founder and chairperson of Alley, formerly known as AlleyNYC. Alley started off as a co-working space, and was considered as one of the pioneers of NYC coworking spaces, and in his capacity as founder and the 1st CEO of Alley, Jason helped countless up and coming NYC startups get off the ground. He also founded Seamess Docs to help state and local governments go paperless.
Among his various other roles and responsibilities, Jason is also a contributor to Inc magazine, is a member of the Forbes council, and is an adjunct professor and board member of Florida International University.
In this episode with Jason, we dug deep into the very essence of what it means to be an entrepreneur and to build companies. Below are some of key topic areas covered:
00: 05:27 - What made AlleyNYC such a special co-working space and how do you build a special company culture?
00:17:28 – How did Jason get into entrepreneurship so early in life?
00:21:30 – The near spiritual crossroad that every entrepreneur finds themselves in at some point in their journey and how to navigate it
00:26:35 – What some of the limitations are of learning entrepreneurship in a business school setting
00:31:40 – Is being an “apprentice entrepreneur” and shadowing a more seasoned entrepreneur a better way to learn how to be an entrepreneur?
00:35:20 – Jason’s involvement with Florida International University, and why giving back and contributing to society is so important.
00:44:30 – What is the Relief App, why did Jason decide to tackle the huge credit card debt problem, and how is he going about tacking the problem?
00:54:15 – What is the business model of the company?
00:56:25 – How did Jason go about building his core team to start the company?
00:59:38 – How did the brilliant Squid games promo for the Relief App come about?
01:03:19 – Jason’s views as one of the pioneers in the co-working space on the future of work post-COVID.
01:06:13 – Is there a book or a documentary that Jason recommends young entrepreneurs read or watch?
This podcast is hosted by Sadeq Ali, co-founder of Archimydes. The vision of Archimydes is to democratize software development and to help people and companies to leverage technology to accelerate humanity forward. You can follow Archimydes on Twitter and on LinkedIn.
This podcast is hosted by Sadeq Ali, co-founder of Archimydes, a curated global Software Engineering Guild.
If you are are interested in joining the Guild then please head to www.archimydes.dev/Guild. If you are interested in working with the Guilds talent please head to www.archimydes.dev.
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